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brunoberu Level 1 (0 points)
Bonjour de France,
I am new on mac g4 and i-life and thus Garageband

i am fascinated... because the simplicity to make use of all this, aspecially the project making: from a picture to music making(composing) untill a diaporama.....
never the less i have a question/request:
in garage Band i found instruments which are fantastic such as provided by the SYNTS
on the other hand the more : classical music oriented instruments have a very poor sound....

QUESTION:
what are the possibilities to get a classical sound such as: flute (traversiere) or church organ or oboe or harp which sounds like the Garitan etc. because i do want to keep the Garageband program;
1-can i add some VST with clasical music instruments
2-are there other ways to get more out of Garageband

Merci

Mac G4 OSX, Mac OS X (10.4.8), just a beginner using mac
  • HangTime Level 9 (50,490 points)
    GarageBand does not use VST plug-ins. However it does use SoundFonts and there are 10s of thousands of free sounfFonts available on the web.

    Once you find what you want:

    http://www.thehangtime.com/gb/gbfaq2.html#installsoundfonts

    http://www.thehangtime.com/gb/gbfaq2.html#usesoundfonts
  • yogilebear Level 1 (135 points)
    welcome to apple discussions.

    for all things technical and practical, hangtime knows everything.

    for orchestral music, a place to start is Apple JamPack:
    http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/jampacks/orchestra.html

    for community, join us
    www.icompositions.com

    yogi
  • Zoomman Level 1 (80 points)
    The orchestra jam pack works well although I'm told there are East West QL Orchestra is better but I still don't know if it works with GB.

    EWQL here http://www.dv247.com/invt/34629/

    As an example of the Orchestral Jam Pack here's something I did earlier http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=409319&songID=4477215

    hth

    Cheers

    Dick
  • Christoph Drösser Level 6 (11,275 points)
    And there's the Garritan orchestral libraries which some people here like a lot. And Ben Boldt did a shareware set of 24 orchestra instruments. Plus a cello in a single pack.
  • Schneb Level 5 (4,940 points)
    When it comes to Garritan Personal Orchestra, I think I am the one to talk to. I have had great luck with Garritan on GarageBand. In fact, I wrote the "how-to" for Garritan on their help-resource page...
    http://garritan.com/GPO-GarageBandPage.html

    I created this orchestration using GarageBand and Garritan Personal Orchestra. It should give you a good idea of what is possible.

    Do not bother with JamPack 4, the samples are hesitant in emphesis, sound tinny, and include zero solo instruments.

    For Pipe Organ, I would highly recommend the free soundfonts Stefan's Cathedral Pipe Organ and the FRENCH Jeux d'orgues used in conjunction with a registered version of SoundFont Synth and you have an extremely realistic Pipe Organ with more stops than you can count for only $15.

    I have done some research in to East West QL Symphony Orchestra and I find it to be sadly lacking over Garritan. Read my replies regarding this at the link below.
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=675679&tstart=0
  • Pat *italiano* Valella Level 4 (1,835 points)
    I too use Garritan's Personal Orchestra - amazing piece of software. Although most of what I do is Guitar recording I aquired a keyboard awhile back and went nuts over midi and Orchestra stuff - recently purchased Garritan's software and love it. ESPECIALLY the strings!
  • Schneb Level 5 (4,940 points)
    Try using the muted French Horns with the strings... sweet!
  • brunoberu Level 1 (0 points)
    Bonjour
    merci beaucoup for your help and explanantions

    1-now i downloaded the sound font snth and the jeux d orgues
    and as i did they dont work in GB3 so far....

    what i understood is : the soundfont is a sort of shell and i have to put the jeu dorgues into it and bothe into GB3 via librarie/audio/plug in/content
    where is my error?

    2-can i read somewhere the whole GPO's textbook in before purchasing it and especially know if the GPO might work on my MAC G4 Titanium 1 GHz which is limited - so is my budget...



    3-as i am much more aquaited with Microsoft PC does garritatans GPO work indifferently with MAC and PC

    thanks in advance

    gottfried
  • Christoph Drösser Level 6 (11,275 points)
    You have to put both SoundFontSynth and the soundfonts into the folder HD/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components.

    You won't find the soundfonts listed under the GB instruments. To use them, you create a new software instrument track, click the "Details" triangle in the Info window and select SoundFontSynth as the Generator. Then you click the pencil icon, and a window pops up where you can either select a single soundfont or a bank of fonts from which you then choose a single instrument.
  • Schneb Level 5 (4,940 points)
    The Garritan site has quite a bit of information, but not a PDF of the manual. You may try contacting them to see if they will send you one.

    as i am much more aquaited with Microsoft PC does garritans GPO work indifferently with MAC and PC


    Actually, Garritan is designed more for PC than it is for Mac. Garritan GPO is a library of audio samples. The actual engine for interfacing between sequencer software and these audio samples is KONTAKT by Native Instruments. So yes, it will work on a PC.
  • brunoberu Level 1 (0 points)
    bonjour

    and thanks for your info: the boldt instruments work well on my mac- the strings and woods are really good the others not so much i feel, but.....

    once more thanks for helping a new commer into all this
    gottfried
  • brunoberu Level 1 (0 points)
    bonjour
    they still exist but for PC use
    thanks
    gottfried
  • brunoberu Level 1 (0 points)
    bonjour to you and schneb
    thanks for your help, but:

    i downloaded the soudfont synth and put it into the component.. as well as the jeuxdorgues... and openend via the pencil: there a pop up came via DSL music device and there was besides the picture an EMPTY white rectangle, i suppose this is the place where the soundfonts should enter????but they don't

    two things:

    1 the soundfont synth, when downloaded show up with the INTEL logo, does this mean PC or the Mac duo processor???

    2 the soundfonts have the suffix XXXX.wav so they are not readable by the GB3

    i made all the tries i am able of but now i am lost

    thanks in advance if you woun't mind a complemetare help

    gottfried
  • Christoph Drösser Level 6 (11,275 points)
    I can't say that I understand everything you write, but:

    - You're not supposed to use the DLS Music Device, SoundFontSynth replaces it.

    - Soundfonts have the suffix .sf2, not .wav. I don't know what the stuff is you're trying to use, but it obviously isn't a soundfont.

    - If your System information is correct, you should not install the Intel version, but the Power PC version of SoundFontSynth.
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