Classical music on GB?

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Classical music on GB?

Bonjour de France,
I am new on mac g4 and i-life and thus Garageband

i am fascinated... because the simplicity to make use of all this, aspecially the project making: from a picture to music making(composing) untill a diaporama.....
never the less i have a question/request:
in garage Band i found instruments which are fantastic such as provided by the SYNTS
on the other hand the more : classical music oriented instruments have a very poor sound....

QUESTION:
what are the possibilities to get a classical sound such as: flute (traversiere) or church organ or oboe or harp which sounds like the Garitan etc. because i do want to keep the Garageband program;
1-can i add some VST with clasical music instruments
2-are there other ways to get more out of Garageband

Merci

Mac G4 OSX, Mac OS X (10.4.8), just a beginner using mac

Posted on Oct 4, 2006 11:54 PM

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Answer 1

HangTime

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Oct 4, 2006 11:57 PM in response to brunoberu

GarageBand does not use VST plug-ins. However it does use SoundFonts and there are 10s of thousands of free sounfFonts available on the web.

Once you find what you want:

http://www.thehangtime.com/gb/gbfaq2.html#installsoundfonts

http://www.thehangtime.com/gb/gbfaq2.html#usesoundfonts

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Answer 2

Oct 5, 2006 12:07 AM in response to brunoberu

welcome to apple discussions.

for all things technical and practical, hangtime knows everything.

for orchestral music, a place to start is Apple JamPack:
http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/jampacks/orchestra.html

for community, join us
www.icompositions.com

yogi

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Answer 3

Zoomman

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Oct 5, 2006 1:25 AM in response to brunoberu

The orchestra jam pack works well although I'm told there are East West QL Orchestra is better but I still don't know if it works with GB.

EWQL here http://www.dv247.com/invt/34629/

As an example of the Orchestral Jam Pack here's something I did earlier http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=409319&songID=4477215

hth

Cheers

Dick

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Answer 4

Oct 5, 2006 1:38 AM in response to Zoomman

And there's the Garritan orchestral libraries which some people here like a lot. And Ben Boldt did a shareware set of 24 orchestra instruments. Plus a cello in a single pack.

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Schneb

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Oct 5, 2006 9:55 AM in response to brunoberu

When it comes to Garritan Personal Orchestra, I think I am the one to talk to. I have had great luck with Garritan on GarageBand. In fact, I wrote the "how-to" for Garritan on their help-resource page...
http://garritan.com/GPO-GarageBandPage.html

I created this orchestration using GarageBand and Garritan Personal Orchestra. It should give you a good idea of what is possible.

Do not bother with JamPack 4, the samples are hesitant in emphesis, sound tinny, and include zero solo instruments.

For Pipe Organ, I would highly recommend the free soundfonts Stefan's Cathedral Pipe Organ and the FRENCH Jeux d'orgues used in conjunction with a registered version of SoundFont Synth and you have an extremely realistic Pipe Organ with more stops than you can count for only $15.

I have done some research in to East West QL Symphony Orchestra and I find it to be sadly lacking over Garritan. Read my replies regarding this at the link below.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=675679&tstart=0

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Answer 6

Oct 5, 2006 2:12 PM in response to Schneb

I too use Garritan's Personal Orchestra - amazing piece of software. Although most of what I do is Guitar recording I aquired a keyboard awhile back and went nuts over midi and Orchestra stuff - recently purchased Garritan's software and love it. ESPECIALLY the strings!

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Answer 7

Schneb

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Oct 5, 2006 4:17 PM in response to Pat-italiano-Valella

Try using the muted French Horns with the strings... sweet!

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brunoberu Author

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Oct 8, 2006 10:28 PM in response to Schneb

Bonjour
merci beaucoup for your help and explanantions

1-now i downloaded the sound font snth and the jeux d orgues
and as i did they dont work in GB3 so far....

what i understood is : the soundfont is a sort of shell and i have to put the jeu dorgues into it and bothe into GB3 via librarie/audio/plug in/content
where is my error?

2-can i read somewhere the whole GPO's textbook in before purchasing it and especially know if the GPO might work on my MAC G4 Titanium 1 GHz which is limited - so is my budget...

3-as i am much more aquaited with Microsoft PC does garritatans GPO work indifferently with MAC and PC

thanks in advance

gottfried

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Answer 9

Oct 9, 2006 12:09 AM in response to brunoberu

You have to put both SoundFontSynth and the soundfonts into the folder HD/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components.

You won't find the soundfonts listed under the GB instruments. To use them, you create a new software instrument track, click the "Details" triangle in the Info window and select SoundFontSynth as the Generator. Then you click the pencil icon, and a window pops up where you can either select a single soundfont or a bank of fonts from which you then choose a single instrument.

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Answer 10

Schneb

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Oct 9, 2006 12:15 PM in response to brunoberu

The Garritan site has quite a bit of information, but not a PDF of the manual. You may try contacting them to see if they will send you one.

as i am much more aquaited with Microsoft PC does garritans GPO work indifferently with MAC and PC

Actually, Garritan is designed more for PC than it is for Mac. Garritan GPO is a library of audio samples. The actual engine for interfacing between sequencer software and these audio samples is KONTAKT by Native Instruments. So yes, it will work on a PC.

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brunoberu Author

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Oct 10, 2006 12:49 AM in response to Christoph Drösser

bonjour

and thanks for your info: the boldt instruments work well on my mac- the strings and woods are really good the others not so much i feel, but.....

once more thanks for helping a new commer into all this
gottfried

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brunoberu Author

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Oct 10, 2006 12:53 AM in response to Zoomman

bonjour
they still exist but for PC use
thanks
gottfried

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brunoberu Author

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Oct 10, 2006 1:13 AM in response to Christoph Drösser

bonjour to you and schneb
thanks for your help, but:

i downloaded the soudfont synth and put it into the component.. as well as the jeuxdorgues... and openend via the pencil: there a pop up came via DSL music device and there was besides the picture an EMPTY white rectangle, i suppose this is the place where the soundfonts should enter????but they don't

two things:

1 the soundfont synth, when downloaded show up with the INTEL logo, does this mean PC or the Mac duo processor???

2 the soundfonts have the suffix XXXX.wav so they are not readable by the GB3

i made all the tries i am able of but now i am lost

thanks in advance if you woun't mind a complemetare help

gottfried

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Answer 14

Oct 10, 2006 1:37 AM in response to brunoberu

I can't say that I understand everything you write, but:

- You're not supposed to use the DLS Music Device, SoundFontSynth replaces it.

- Soundfonts have the suffix .sf2, not .wav. I don't know what the stuff is you're trying to use, but it obviously isn't a soundfont.

- If your System information is correct, you should not install the Intel version, but the Power PC version of SoundFontSynth.

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Answer 15

Suz.

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Oct 10, 2006 12:37 PM in response to brunoberu

Jam Pack 4-Symphony Orchestra sounds pretty good to me. I love the woodwinds. The piccolo is beautiful.

The strings are, well, in need of tweaking here and there. I spent a couple of days creating new & improved versions for me to use. I love my tweaked cello.

I still wish there was a solo violin, but I've tweaked out the viola and it sounds pretty good. My new & improved harp is great.

What I do wish for is a proper solo violin and a vibrato filter.

Other than that, I'm content.

🙂

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