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Q: Using FCE 4.0.1

I'm using FCE 4.0.1 on a MacBook (2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo w/ 4GB 667 ram) running OS 10.5.8. It's slow during transitions so I'm thinking of upgrading to a used laptop with more power. What is the newest operating system that I can use with FCE 4.0.1 and what is the newest OS that I can use with my current MacBook without slowing it down even more? What laptop should I look for that would give me enough power to run FCE. Would upgrading to more memory on what I have be of any use?

 

I want a laptop that would be dedicated to FCE and another program I use for crafting that requires OS 10.6.8. I don't want to have to buy Final Cut Pro to make my slideshows because I only make a couple a year.

Posted on Jan 20, 2015 4:31 PM

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Q: Using FCE 4.0.1

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  • by David Harbsmeier,

    David Harbsmeier David Harbsmeier Jan 20, 2015 7:20 PM in response to gloworm
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    Jan 20, 2015 7:20 PM in response to gloworm

    Before you go to the hassle and all the potential problems of upgrading the OS or setting up another laptop, first determine why it's"slow during transitions."

     

    What is the media format?  FCE only works natively with QuickTime DV and AIC (and at specific resolutions and frame rates).  If you have any other format, you'll need to convert it prior to importing into an FCE project.

     

    Does the media match your Sequence settings in FCP?  If no, then you need to convert the media to the proper format prior to importing - that alone will greatly speed things up.

     

    Is the Sequence rendered?  If no, render the Sequence fully and see if the transitions are still "slow."

     

    -DH

  • by gloworm,

    gloworm gloworm Jan 20, 2015 8:18 PM in response to David Harbsmeier
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    Jan 20, 2015 8:18 PM in response to David Harbsmeier

    I only import still pics, no video. I take my pictures in JPEG format and I'm not sure of the resolution or size. What would be the best sIze? I do render the sequences. It seems that I have to render quite often because it says I've run out of memory. Do you know what the newest OS system I can use with FCE? I need at least 10.6.8 for the other program I want to run on this laptop.

  • by MartinR,

    MartinR MartinR Jan 21, 2015 7:03 PM in response to gloworm
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    Jan 21, 2015 7:03 PM in response to gloworm

    Very often the culprit with a system that has gotten sluggish is that your hard drive is too full.  Check the capacity & used space on your hard drive; if it's more than about 70% full, I suggest trimming things down to get your hard drive under 50% full.

     

    Second, bumping your MBP to 8GB RAM wouldn't hurt, especially for rendering and realtime effects.

     

    To the point of your specific question, in my experience FCE 4.0.1 works best with either 10.5.8 (which you already have) or 10.6.8.   I do not recommend moving to 10.7 or later versions of OS X if you want to continue using Final Cut Express.   FCE was discontinued before Lion (10.7) was released and many users have had difficulties installing and/or running FCE on Lion and later releases of OS X.

     

    For what it's worth, imho, 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) was/is the absolute high point of OS X releases.  I am still running it on most of my Macs.   I am ok with Lion (10.7.5) in general but not with apps that pre-date Lion, and specifically not with FCE; somewhat ok with Mavericks (although I do think it runs slower than Lion or Snow Leopard); and I detest Yosemite for quite a number of reasons.

  • by gloworm,

    gloworm gloworm Jan 22, 2015 6:17 AM in response to MartinR
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    Jan 22, 2015 6:17 AM in response to MartinR

    I have plenty of HD space (130GB) left, so that's not the problem. 'm also thinking of upgrading the hard drive to a SSD. I've heard that that will speed things up a lot. 

     

    I'm going to upgrade to 10.6 because I need it for the other program I want to run on this laptop. I ordered the disks from Amazon for 10.6.3. Can I update to 10.6.8 through Apple?

     

    I have the black MacBook and I think 4GB of RAM is all she'll take as far as I can tell.

     

    I still need to know what size and resolution my media should be before importing it into  FCE. I only import pictures, no video. The slideshow is shown on the BIG screen at church and made into DVD's to shown on TV's. Any idea?

  • by MartinR,

    MartinR MartinR Jan 22, 2015 2:15 PM in response to gloworm
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    Jan 22, 2015 2:15 PM in response to gloworm

    I have plenty of HD space (130GB) left, so that's not the problem.

     

    Actually, the amount of free space is not nearly as relevant to the issue as the % of free space.  If your HD is over about 50% full, especially doing video, there will be performance degradation compared to an HD that is less than about 50% full.  It's the physics of the hard drive.  In addition, if you are working on HD video you can easily need 50-100GB per hour of video for working storage & render files.  And if you render multiple times, FCE is not good at cleaning up old render files, so multiple renders take more & more disk space. The only effective way to clean out old render files is to manually delete them from your FCE  /Render Files folder.  And it's nearly impossible to tell which render files are actually in current use, so you end up having to delete them all and then re-render your entire timeline if you really want to free up disk space.

     

    To answer your question about upgrading, yes, once you install Snow Leopard you should be able to update to 10.6.8 via Software Update.  That's how I've always done it.

     

    If your black Macbook is the one I suspect it is, the official max is 4GB RAM but it appears it will work with 6GB.  Overall, the system specs are on the low side for FCE 4

     

    As for still images, I have generally found sizing them to no more than 2x your video frame size works pretty well.  Larger than that, FCE will be discarding lots of pixels to fit the image into your video frame.   You need to consider the actual pixel dimensions of your image, not the embedded resolution or dpi.  Actual pixel dimensions are what's important.  The larger your jpeg image the more pixels will be discarded, so images that are much larger than your frame size are not advisable.