cherylfromanderson

Q: what is best 2015 antivirus program for my iMac

Which antivirus program is recommended for my 2011 iMac running OSX Yosemite 10.10.1?

iMac (21.5-inch Mid 2011), OS X Yosemite (10.10.1)

Posted on Jan 24, 2015 6:22 AM

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  • by dominic23,

    dominic23 dominic23 Jan 24, 2015 6:36 AM in response to cherylfromanderson
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    Jan 24, 2015 6:36 AM in response to cherylfromanderson

    There is none.

    Please don't install one.

    About anti-virus:

    http://www.thesafemac.com/mmg-antivirus/

  • by Japib,Solvedanswer

    Japib Japib Jan 24, 2015 6:33 AM in response to cherylfromanderson
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    Jan 24, 2015 6:33 AM in response to cherylfromanderson

    None. No Antivirus is the best option to keep your Mac running, since Macs don't get viruses and antivirus software only slows down the computer.

  • by cherylfromanderson,

    cherylfromanderson cherylfromanderson Jan 24, 2015 7:15 AM in response to Japib
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    Jan 24, 2015 7:15 AM in response to Japib

    Thank you.  You answered my question and, more importantly, you explained. Not being tech savvy, I was persuaded by several articles that even Macs get viruses, malware, etc.  Certainly, I did not want to cause any issues for my Mac.

  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Jan 25, 2015 12:58 AM in response to cherylfromanderson
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    Jan 25, 2015 12:58 AM in response to cherylfromanderson

    The best anti-virus, malware, trojan app is just plain old common sense.

     

    1.  Never say yes to any site that prompts you to do any plug-in updates.

         Always install updates directly from the vendor.

    2.  If you get any important looking email asking you to click a link to

         update personal info, trash it and go directly to the site in question.

         "Phishers" can be very good a duplicating actual emails from institutions.

    3.  Never visit any "warez" or similar sites.  Then again, if you are going to

         one of these sites trying to rip off software, you deserve what you get.

    4.  In general, if you did not specifically ask for something, don't accept it.

  • by vintageaxeman,

    vintageaxeman vintageaxeman Jan 25, 2015 1:36 AM in response to cherylfromanderson
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    Jan 25, 2015 1:36 AM in response to cherylfromanderson

    I had a few virus issues on my 2014 iMac running Yosemite, and I installed Avast Mac Security which is free. It seems to work fine.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 25, 2015 4:24 AM in response to vintageaxeman
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    Jan 25, 2015 4:24 AM in response to vintageaxeman

    Avast is bad, you shouldn't be using that.

     

    First, it has a long-standing problem with false positives, sometimes even identifying system files as malicious.

     

    Second, it has been known to include an adware component that was turned on by default and not described in the documentation. Anti-virus software should NOT be injecting advertisements into your web browser!

     

    Finally, the only way you can download Avast is through download.cnet.com, which is a known adware distribution site. They use very unethical methods, wrapping other people's software in their own adware installer, and that site should never, ever be used.

     

    In all, you just can't trust Avast.

  • by vintageaxeman,

    vintageaxeman vintageaxeman Jan 26, 2015 4:16 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Jan 26, 2015 4:16 AM in response to thomas_r.

    About AVAST...

    Thank you for the advice.

    I did have some adware problems before I installed Avast, and that was my sole reason for getting it.

     

    However, I downloaded it from https://www.avast.com/free-mac-security which is NOT C-Net.

     

    I am aware of the pitfalls of C-Net, and wouldn't use it.

     

    However it looks like the Avast site is their own....it certainly didn't redirect me to C-Net, it just downloaded the program I wanted free of charge, and it seems to work really well.

     

    I have had it installed now for about a month with no problems or adware etc at all.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Jan 26, 2015 5:40 AM in response to vintageaxeman
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    Jan 26, 2015 5:40 AM in response to vintageaxeman

    vintageaxeman wrote:

     

    However, I downloaded it from https://www.avast.com/free-mac-security which is NOT C-Net.

     

    Ahh, looks like they have finally changed that. It's about time!

     

    However, that doesn't change the fact that it recently included an adware component (see Avast installs adware!) and has a long-standing history of false positives - including the repeated detection of a part of Mac OS X as a "decompression bomb" over a period of many years - caused by sloppy signatures.

     

    (Fair disclosure: I may receive compensation from links to my sites, TheSafeMac.com and AdwareMedic.com, in the form of buttons allowing for donations. Donations are not required to use my site or software.)

  • by thedjjams,

    thedjjams thedjjams Feb 24, 2015 9:17 PM in response to cherylfromanderson
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    Feb 24, 2015 9:17 PM in response to cherylfromanderson

    I wouldn't give complete faith that your Mac will not get a virus.  I can say that I have never seen a virus on my computer personally, but I am also very careful about what I install.

     

    There are quite a few Mac virus / malware that has come out over the years.  Its just not as bad as Windows.

     

    I personally have used Sophos AntiVirus for Mac for the past few years.

     

    I am including some links on the matter below.

     

    Sophos Anti-Virus for Mac

    http://www.sophos.com/en-us/products/free-tools/sophos-antivirus-for-mac-home-ed ition.aspx

     

    Best AntiVirus Software for Mac 2015 Review

    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-antivirus,review-2588-6.html

     

    AV Tests of the AntiVirus Software  (Look under 2014, Home User, Mac OS X.  Excel file has the results of the tests.)

    http://www.av-test.org/en/press/test-results/

     

    Mac Myths about Malware

    http://http://www.intego.com/mac-security-blog/5-more-mac-malware-myths-and-misc onceptions/

     

    List of Mac Malware that has come out

    http://www.thesafemac.com/mmg-catalog/

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Feb 24, 2015 9:28 PM in response to thedjjams
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    Feb 24, 2015 9:28 PM in response to thedjjams

    Malware and Viruses are not the same thing. Neither Sophos nor Avast are available in the Mac App Store, and Avast has been known to cause all sort of issues with Macs as we have seen here on this forum. First rule of keeping your Mac safe - do not download software from any site except the Mac App Store unless it is recognized to be a safe site (like Microsoft or Adobe).

     

    Unless you have used these AV software products, it is not a really good idea to be recommending them. The folks who posted prior to your post really do know a lot about using AV software and the pros and cons. Most of those experts only recommend ClamXav. Anything else can slow down your Mac, give you false positives concerning viruses, and generally wreak havoc on a machine that, when running only Mac software, does not get viruses. If you are running BootCamp, then, certainly, the software running in your Windows partition can be affected by viruses, but OSx and smart computing is the best way to ensure that you do not get Malware, Adware, or Trojans on your Mac.

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by thedjjams,

    thedjjams thedjjams Feb 25, 2015 12:05 AM in response to gail from maine
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    Feb 25, 2015 12:05 AM in response to gail from maine

    I did not recommend Avast, and I agree, I have seen many reviews of it not working properly with the Mac.  I only mentioned that I have used Sophos for a few years.   It is very simple, and uses few resources.  It also has many reviews giving it high remarks.  I tried Kaspersky for Mac once, and had to uninstall it the next day since it cause my internet to stop working. 

     

    I personally haven't had any malicious software on my Mac.   I have installed Sophos on my Aunt's Mac though, and it detected a couple of emails that had a Trojan PDF from a fake FedEx account.  I was able to delete the emails without any harm.  It also detected the same emails in the Time Machine backup, which took a little digging to find them.  This is the only example I've personally seen.  So I know it's possible.

     

    And I don't agree that malware is different from a virus.  Malware is malicious software.  Viruses, adware, spyware, Trojans, and other types all fall under malicious software.  I used the term malware because there are too many types of threats out there.

     

    I agree that you should only download software from the Mac App Store or other trusted websites.  But there are more threats than just what software you install.  For instance, an email with a Trojan disguised as a PDF.  There have also been past threats that would still install even after a user decided not to provide their password.  Fortunately, Apple is always patching security threats that are found, so most of the threats that have come out aren't of any concern, as long as you keep your computer updated regularly.  Sadly a lot of people don't.

     

    My point is, people will always try and find a way to bypass any security that a computer has.  And a lot of times they are  successful.  Having an antivirus isn't going to be the ultimate answer, but its an extra step to protecting your system. I personally wouldn't use anything but Sophos at this time, but I am always checking to see if there are any better programs out there.  So far, none have been able to persuade me away from Sophos. 

     

    I also don't agree with telling a person, not to worry about viruses.  And to say Mac's don't get Viruses isn't a true statement either.  It's just more unlikely. 

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Feb 25, 2015 4:25 AM in response to thedjjams
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    Feb 25, 2015 4:25 AM in response to thedjjams

    thedjjams wrote:

     

    There are quite a few Mac virus / malware that has come out over the years.

     

    A few. A total of 51 in all the years Mac OS X has existed. All of which are currently extinct, because they either won't work on current versions of Mac OS X or are blocked by the anti-malware features of recent versions of Mac OS X. There is no currently known malware capable of infecting Mac OS X, and though the possibility of unknown malware exists, anti-virus software can't protect you against that.

     

    I personally have used Sophos AntiVirus for Mac for the past few years.

     

    I used to recommend Sophos to people who insisted on using anti-virus software, but it is no longer as low-profile as it used to be. Sophos has been causing more problems for Mac users recently, and I no longer recommend its use.

     

    I am including some links on the matter below.

     

    It's important to keep a few things in mind with regard to those links. The Tom's Guide article is very light on actual information about how they evaluated the software they reviewed, and the site is littered with advertising, including some for anti-virus software. That review should be considered potentially biased.

     

    Similarly, the AVTest site receives payment from anti-virus companies for the testing they do, so there's definitely potential for bias. Their testing of malware detection seems to be pretty close to my own results, so that's probably good data... but, it's only one data point. My own testing data has been routinely misinterpreted by people who believe that because Avast tops the detection rate list, that makes it good. (In actuality, I strongly recommend against Avast for a variety of reasons.) Paying too much attention to just detection, or just how fast a Mac can copy files while anti-virus is installed, and not to other issues is a very serious error.

     

    The Intego article you linked to is a bad link, but if you Google it, you'll find that some of the information there is good, but other points are weak at best. One points out that some malware has gotten past the anti-malware features of Mac OS X, without mention of the fact that 1) that malware also got past anti-virus software at the time, or 2) those anti-malware features were still not entirely complete at the time. Another point is a straw man argument. (I've never seen anyone arguing that Mac malware doesn't affect "real people," so arguing that it does is meaningless.)

     

    Now, let's consider something else... because both Mac OS X and anti-virus software are not strong against brand new threats, and because they are also not strong against things like adware (which is not really malware), neither one can be relied on for full protection. Yet the installation of anti-virus software is often treated by users as full protection, which leads them to behave in unsafe ways under the false belief that they are safe. Thus, running anti-virus software can actually be more harmful than good!

     

    For more information, see my Mac Malware Guide.

     

    (Fair disclosure: I may receive compensation from links to my sites, TheSafeMac.com and AdwareMedic.com.)