Connects to WiFi but does not use it?

I have several iPhone users in a company office. All of them appear to connect to the company WiFi access point but the WiFi logo does not show up in the upper left and the iPhone appears to be using the 3g or 4g network instead of WiFi. All Android devices in the company work fine. What is the problem?

iPhone 6, iOS 8.1.2

Posted on Jan 26, 2015 2:00 PM

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Posted on Jan 26, 2015 2:06 PM

Troubleshooting: On one (or more) of the phones, after attempting to connect, go to Settings/WiFi. Tap on the i to the right of the network name and look at the IP address. If it begins 169.254... this means that the WiFi router did not assign an IP address, so the phone created an "ad hoc" address. If this is what you find this is a router problem, not an iPhone problem.


Start by rebooting the router. Sometimes this correct the problem by restarting the DHCP daemon in the router that assigns IP addresses. Beyond that you can try updating the firmware in the router to the latest version.

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Jan 26, 2015 2:06 PM in response to edmuseer

Troubleshooting: On one (or more) of the phones, after attempting to connect, go to Settings/WiFi. Tap on the i to the right of the network name and look at the IP address. If it begins 169.254... this means that the WiFi router did not assign an IP address, so the phone created an "ad hoc" address. If this is what you find this is a router problem, not an iPhone problem.


Start by rebooting the router. Sometimes this correct the problem by restarting the DHCP daemon in the router that assigns IP addresses. Beyond that you can try updating the firmware in the router to the latest version.

Jan 27, 2015 9:54 AM in response to edmuseer

edmuseer wrote:


But the cellular provider and signal indicator are still present in the top left too.

That is normal. Turning off cellular data only affects data. It does not affect voice and text services. The phone will still get and make calls, and can send and receive SMS (but not MMS). So it is relevant to show the carrier and signal strength.


If you want to try with all cellular services off put the phone in Airplane mode. You can then reënable WiFi and have a phone that will do WiFi only.


It's worth trying pogster's idea. Also, seeing if WiFi signal strength matters - try getting right next to an access point.


Something else that just occurred to me - do the phones have MS Exchange accounts on them? If so did you install an enterprise security policy on the phones, or enable VPN? Some of the settings may force the phone to use LTE over WiFi for security reasons. You can check by going to Settings/General an scrolling to the bottom. If there's a security policy installed it will appear as a Profile below the Reset selection.


Here's information on Enterprise support. http://www.apple.com/support/enterprise/


I don't know if they can provide help without a contract, but it's worth asking. Also, are you using this: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator/id434433123?mt=12

Jan 29, 2015 7:01 AM in response to edmuseer

Two possibilities. When you connect to a WiFi network the phone attempts to go to an internal Apple site. If it gets there WiFi is established. If it does not the phone assumes that the WiFi network requires an http login (typical of hotels, public hotspots) and waits for the network to redirect to the login page. But why the phone successfully uses WiFi when cellular data is off doesn't entirely explain this as the issue.


As far as ports are concerned, here are all of the ports that Apple products might use: TCP and UDP ports used by Apple software products - Apple Support

Jan 27, 2015 10:08 AM in response to edmuseer

I'd like to summarize what we know so far. Please add or correct anything I've missed:


  • The phones are being assigned a valid IP address
  • It's a central router supplying DHCP services with remote access points
  • If cellular data is turned off on the phone WiFi works
  • If Cellular data is on then the WiFi "fan" is not displayed, instead the cellular data (e.g. LTE) is displayed
  • The problem occurs only in the office environment, and does not occur with other WiFi networks
  • The problem does not occur with Android phones


Things that have not been addressed yet:

  • Is a valid DNS being assigned? Can you try manually adding a public DNS to what's there (such as 8.8.8.8, Google's public)
  • Is the subnet mask correct?
  • Is the router address correct?
  • Have you tried tapping Renew Lease?
  • Even though the "fan" is not displayed is the phone using WiFi data?

Jan 27, 2015 10:15 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

  • The phones are being assigned a valid IP address
  • It's a central router supplying DHCP services with remote access points

DHCP is supplied by a server other than the wireless router which has DHCP turned off and is configured as a wireless access point. It is the only wireless AP in the office.

  • If cellular data is turned off on the phone WiFi works
  • If Cellular data is on then the WiFi "fan" is not displayed, instead the cellular data (e.g. LTE) is displayed
  • The problem occurs only in the office environment, and does not occur with other WiFi networks
  • The problem does not occur with Android phones


Things that have not been addressed yet:

Is a valid DNS being assigned? Can you try manually adding a public DNS to what's there (such as 8.8.8.8, Google's public)

Yes, the two DNS address are correct. Don't know what it would accomplish to change DNS to Google.

Is the subnet mask correct?

Yes.

Is the router address correct?

Yes

Have you tried tapping Renew Lease?

Yes, no change.

Even though the "fan" is not displayed is the phone using WiFi data?

This is a good question. Don't know for sure.

Jan 26, 2015 2:28 PM in response to edmuseer

So the SSID is hidden? That shouldn't be a problem. Can you monitor the network and see if the phone is using WiFi? Or ping the phone's IP address on the network?


Note, BTW, that an iPhone will only use WiFi when the screen is open or the phone is connected to power. WiFi is turned off 30 seconds after the phone goes to sleep to preserve battery. But this doesn't seem to be your issue.

Jan 26, 2015 2:44 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

SSID is not hidden. I should say, when I tap on the SSID name in the WiFi list. MAC addresses are showing up as connected (both Apple and Android phones) in the WiFi router. I am able to ping the IP supplied by our network (Wireless router is configured as access point and dhcp is turned off). I have 3 iPhone users with 8.2.1 and all exhibit the same behavior.

Jan 27, 2015 8:17 AM in response to edmuseer

I've never seen an issue like this before. WiFi works, but its giving preference to LTE. It shouldn't do that. Have you tried using a different WiFi network?


I see that you have TTY enabled on the phone. I don't think that has anything to do with it, and I've tried enabling TTY on my phone, and it doesn't reproduce your issue. The setting for TTY is in Settings/Phone.


I think you need to contact Apple's Enterprise Services support.

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