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Jan 28, 2015 1:07 AM in response to mwille64by Leopardus,mwille64 wrote:
Leo, I know where to find the reports. There aren't any panic reports. In matter fact there no reports corresponding to the event dates and times other then the first posted dump related to AirPort.
Hi MW64,
The system does record and write to the logs a lot of stuff, including all and every panic report. It has been evident from what has been posted, that somehow this has not been found. If you would follow the steps of my previous post, and then open the arrow at System Diagnostic Reports to face downwards you should get to the scroll list where you can scroll downwards to find what Barney and others (who really only wants to help you), have been asking for. You might have to scroll down quite a bit. Select the last one and post the output in the right pane.
To Thomas_r. and John Galt,
Thank you for the great stuff you both have written over time, and made available to other mortals like us to broaden our knowledge
Have fun with the Macs
Leo
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Jan 28, 2015 1:39 AM in response to Leopardusby mwille64,Leo, Barney and John,
Just to clarify, I really do appreciate that you try to help. But I really can't see anything under reports that fits your description. I have attached screen shots of the report list. Maybe you can point me to the file(s) that you think could be of help?
Thanks
And again I appreciate your help.
Matthias
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Jan 28, 2015 2:02 AM in response to mwille64by Leopardus,mwille64 wrote:
Leo, Barney and John,
Just to clarify, I really do appreciate that you try to help. But I really can't see anything under reports that fits your description. I have attached screen shots of the report list. Maybe you can point me to the file(s) that you think could be of help?
Thanks
And again I appreciate your help.
Matthias
Hi Matthias,
We are getting there! Your kernel was on page three, but it was some time ago. Your sleep-wake failure can be found on page four. Give us those two, but more relevant are those with the latest dates, especially with today and maybe yesterdays date. They are relevant for your present problem.
Kind regards
Leo
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Jan 28, 2015 2:38 AM in response to Leopardusby mwille64,Leo,
I'm still not quite clear, ALL reports starting with kernel_...are GPU related and I understood from Barney's postings that they are not relevant. In any case I posted the latest one. I also posted the latest Sleep Wake Failure report.
The images I uploaded in my previous post seem to have been inserted in the wrong sequence though I uploaded them in correct order. The 3rd and 4th image should be in reverse order!
I'm confused now ;-)
Anyway, I have as suggested removed AVAST and installed the recommended ClamXav. I also removed any other software I don't use frequently (for the time being). The only one mentioned that I kept is MOOM, I need that one as the standard window handling in OS X isn't really comfortable enough for me.
So let's see how this goes.
I have a question though for Barney:
I'm aware that there are a lot of built in measures in OS X to protect the system from viruses, malware and other unwanted stuff. However, I use my MAC as a systems administrator, developer and most commonly as a guinea pig for software to be used in our environment. Some that isn't available on the Appstore, hence unknown sources that might not be thrust worthy. I also run a Windows 7 Ultimate VM (using VMWare) on my MAC and as I require to use both OS in parallel, I use the fusion option to merge both OS.
I honestly do not feel comfortable in just trusting Apple in covering the security aspects in this scenario, mainly because it is not what Apple really has in mind as an intended usage scenario for the average user. So shall I consider myself save without any additional virus protection or should I indeed go beyond what Apple built into OS X?
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Jan 28, 2015 2:54 AM in response to mwille64by Csound1,mwille64 wrote:
Leo,
I'm still not quite clear, ALL reports starting with kernel_...are GPU related and I understood from Barney's postings that they are not relevant. In any case I posted the latest one. I also posted the latest Sleep Wake Failure report.
The images I uploaded in my previous post seem to have been inserted in the wrong sequence though I uploaded them in correct order. The 3rd and 4th image should be in reverse order!
I'm confused now ;-)
Anyway, I have as suggested removed AVAST and installed the recommended ClamXav. I also removed any other software I don't use frequently (for the time being). The only one mentioned that I kept is MOOM, I need that one as the standard window handling in OS X isn't really comfortable enough for me.
So let's see how this goes.
I have a question though for Barney:
I'm aware that there are a lot of built in measures in OS X to protect the system from viruses, malware and other unwanted stuff. However, I use my MAC as a systems administrator, developer and most commonly as a guinea pig for software to be used in our environment. Some that isn't available on the Appstore, hence unknown sources that might not be thrust worthy. I also run a Windows 7 Ultimate VM (using VMWare) on my MAC and as I require to use both OS in parallel, I use the fusion option to merge both OS.
I honestly do not feel comfortable in just trusting Apple in covering the security aspects in this scenario, mainly because it is not what Apple really has in mind as an intended usage scenario for the average user. So shall I consider myself save without any additional virus protection or should I indeed go beyond what Apple built into OS X?
Do not add any A/V software, it's just a blanket for you to wrap around you, it doesn't actually work it just helps you to think that you are 'doing' something. Avast is one of the worst of a bad lot.
As an admin you will know that there are no risks if you use proper backup. Do you (do you have a restorable/bootable image) if not, why not. Development 101. develop on a machine that you can erase (like using an external drive for testing software)
You should also know that by refusing to properly test you are the obstruction to the search for a solution, but that is your decision (foolish one at that).
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Jan 28, 2015 3:11 AM in response to mwille64by Leopardus,Hi Matthias,
From the images, there were two recent types of crashes that your Mac have experienced. They are 'featurefilter' and 'memcheck' - both being yesterday. I recommend that you open them by clicking on them, scroll then in the right pane to the top and look for something that probably repeats itself in the three. It should be at or near the top, after some normal stuff like what you have, you will find something like 'Application Backtrace ****' there. The clue may lie there.
Did I mention the right pane window?
To Csound1,
Good morning. Have you helped the OP with the sound problem? I think I recommended to him to seek your assistance with his problem.
Have fun
Leo
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Jan 28, 2015 3:16 AM in response to Csound1by mwille64,Csound,
Please, that is almost patronising! I know what a backup is and how to protect myself from a total loss. That is really not the point.
If I'm hit by fishing or spoofing attack, it doesn't matter if I have a backup or not. Important information has been compromised by the time I realise that I'm attacked. So of what use is a back up in this case? Any sensible person wants to avoid being effected by an attack and not just being able to restore in case it happens. That can only be the ultima ratio.
And yes, it always can happen despite all protection efforts. That is also not the point. I still have an airbag and seatbelt in my car even though at high speeds I likely end up dead in a worst case scenario.
My question was if the default OS X protection is sufficient or not? If AVAST happens to be a bad product, fine I can accept that judgement and change to whatever else. I can also accept if I'm being told that whatever is build into OS X is sufficient, but I will not take that for granted. I will certainly do some research to get confirmed what is being promoted here.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:20 AM in response to mwille64by thomas_r.,mwille64 wrote:
I use my MAC as a systems administrator, developer and most commonly as a guinea pig for software to be used in our environment. Some that isn't available on the Appstore, hence unknown sources that might not be thrust worthy.
I also am a developer, and worse, I specialize in playing with malware and adware. I have hundreds of malware and adware samples on my hard drive, and I frequently actually run these things in a Mac OS X system in a Parallels virtual machine. Yet I do not have anti-virus software, and have never been infected (as long as you don't count my virtual test systems which I purposefully infect).
Protecting yourself is not about installing anti-virus software and assuming that it will do the job for you. It won't, and most anti-virus software does a poor job compared to the built-in anti-malware features of Mac OS X. Like I said earlier, there is no known Mac malware currently capable of infecting Mac OS X.
Protecting yourself is all about learning what the threats are and how to mitigate them. See the info I posted previously.
I also run a Windows 7 Ultimate VM (using VMWare) on my MAC and as I require to use both OS in parallel, I use the fusion option to merge both OS.
Irrelevant. If your Windows 7 system gets infected, that has no effect on Mac OS X. Windows malware cannot infect Mac OS X, and having Windows in a VM does not in any way increase the likelihood of Mac OS X being infected. Heck, I can play with an infected Mac OS X system in a VM all day and that doesn't affect my "real" system. I can even transfer files between them safely, because no Mac malware transmits itself as a virus, attaching to files and spreading that way.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:27 AM in response to mwille64by thomas_r.,mwille64 wrote:
If I'm hit by fishing or spoofing attack, it doesn't matter if I have a backup or not. Important information has been compromised by the time I realise that I'm attacked.
Not so. A phishing attack requires your cooperation. If you fall for a phishing attack and enter sensitive information into a form on a malicious web page... well, that's nobody's fault but your own, and anti-virus software probably wouldn't have protected you against that anyway. You'd be more likely to be protected by the Google Safe Browsing feature in Safari, which identifies and blocks known bad sites when you try to visit them.
I'm not sure what you're referring to with regard to a "spoofing attack." That's a rather vague term. I'm guessing you're using it synonymously with "phishing attack," since a phishing attack involves spoofing an e-mail from a legitimate party.
There is no way that a phishing attack can install malware on your Mac or gain access to information on your Mac by itself.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:32 AM in response to mwille64by Csound1,mwille64 wrote:
Csound,
Please, that is almost patronising! I know what a backup is and how to protect myself from a total loss. That is really not the point.
You have decided that you won't test thoroughly, that is your choice and it leaves me with nothing to add.
I don't think you do know how to protect yourself, I note that you sidestepped my questions.
Good luck.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:37 AM in response to thomas_r.by mwille64,Yes, you're correct. In these types of attacks I have to somehow volunteer to the attack. I'm just not claiming that with all my experience that I will never fall for it though. In any case, my point in this response to Csound was that a back up is not a solution to preventing an attack. Whatever kind of attack it is.
If it is correct what you all are claiming that OS X does by itself a better job in virus protection then any 3rd party protection, then as said before, I can accept that information. However, I will do some research.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:44 AM in response to mwille64by Csound1,mwille64 wrote:
In any case, my point in this response to Csound was that a back up is not a solution to preventing an attack. Whatever kind of attack it is.
You clearly are having comprehension problems and I am offended by your total mischaracterisation of my post.
I did not say that a backup would prevent an attack, and I am astonished that an "IT" expert misunderstands such simple concepts (not entirely astonished come to think of it)
Do whatever you want, I am out of this.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:49 AM in response to Csound1by mwille64,I did not sidestep your questions and I do not believe I have said anything that would indicate I do not test.
I also felt it irrelevant, simply because the point of using protective software is to protect you from mistakes. If I would be perfect at it at all times, I wouldn't think of installing anything, not even in Windows. I'm not! So whilst I'm doing all efforts to test correctly and to avoid any kind of danger, it did happen in the past that I got infected. Under Windows I have to add. I'm using a Mac only for the last 2 years and so far I have been save, whilst I have been using Windows since it was first published by Microsoft.
So, I got the message. You all claim OS X is on its own as save as any other OS running A/V software. And that I should feel save as long as I use common sense precautional measures to protect myself.
Hopefully you are all correct ;-)
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Jan 28, 2015 3:54 AM in response to mwille64by Csound1,mwille64 wrote:
I did not sidestep your questions and I do not believe I have said anything that would indicate I do not test.
Really?
. Do you (do you have a restorable/bootable image) if not, why not. Development 101. develop on a machine that you can erase (like using an external drive for testing software)
Never got any reply to that.
I kept is MOOM, I need that one as the standard window handling in OS X isn't really comfortable enough for me.
And you decided not to test without 3rd party software as requested.
As I said before,
Do it your way.
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Jan 28, 2015 3:55 AM in response to mwille64by Csound1,I also felt it irrelevant
Just for my curiosity, if you feel that advice received here is "irrelevant" why seek it?




