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iMac crashes when powering off external Thunderbolt drive

Hi,


I have an external LaCie d2 USB 3.0 drive that is connect to my iMac (27-inch, Mid 2011, 3,1 GHz Intel Core i5, 12 GB RAM) through Thunderbolt. Whenever I power off the drive by pushing the power button (yes I did verify: all partitions have been ejected correctly before in the Finder and verified in Disk Utility), the iMac crashes. It starts up again, displays a screen stating the computer was not shut down properly and then immediately restarts. After that it boots up fine.


This started occurring after having installed 10.10.2 Beta. I did file a report with Apple. As this was beta software I decided to completely reinstall the iMac from scratch (a complete fresh install, just imported my documents manually after) and everything was working fine again (10.10.1). Boom, after having updated 10.10.2 yesterday the problem is back.


I did manage to find a workaround: when I connect the drive through a UBS cable it works fine. Conclusion: this seems to be caused by a Thunderbolt related update in 10.10.2.


Question: is any one else with an external Thunderbolt drive experiencing this and has perhaps found a fix?


Thanks,

Kurt


Wed Jan 28 16:30:36 2015


*** Panic Report ***

panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff800341a46e): Kernel trap at 0xffffff80038e9774, type 14=page fault, registers:

CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x0000000000000000, CR3: 0x00000000066ee000, CR4: 0x00000000000626e0

RAX: 0x0000000000070001, RBX: 0xffffff8036919c00, RCX: 0x8883c87675b70011, RDX: 0xffffff81541e9088

RSP: 0xffffff817bb0be90, RBP: 0xffffff817bb0be90, RSI: 0xffffff81541e9068, RDI: 0x0000000000000000

R8: 0x0000000000987482, R9: 0xffffff8003a95740, R10: 0x000017d7912af429, R11: 0x000017d790927fa7

R12: 0xffffff817bb0bf50, R13: 0xffffff7f85328044, R14: 0xffffff7f8533e978, R15: 0xffffff8003ad66c0

RFL: 0x0000000000010202, RIP: 0xffffff80038e9774, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010

Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000000, Error code: 0x0000000000000000, Fault CPU: 0x0


Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address

0xffffff817bb0bb40 : 0xffffff800332fe41

0xffffff817bb0bbc0 : 0xffffff800341a46e

0xffffff817bb0bd80 : 0xffffff8003436683

0xffffff817bb0bda0 : 0xffffff80038e9774

0xffffff817bb0be90 : 0xffffff7f85328267

0xffffff817bb0beb0 : 0xffffff7f8532bad7

0xffffff817bb0bee0 : 0xffffff7f853281ed

0xffffff817bb0bf00 : 0xffffff80033624f9

0xffffff817bb0bfb0 : 0xffffff8003414dd7

Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort(3.1)[93E1D2EC-50EE-3340-9676-0EA1E0B1AD45]@0xfff fff7f85324000->0xffffff7f8533efff

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily(2.7.5)[DAF0353B-16D5-385A-A0F3-FD5CF3BA07F2]@0xfff fff7f84706000

dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[56AD16B5-4F29-3F74-93E7-D492B3966DE2]@0xffffff 7f83b24000


BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task


Mac OS version:

14C109


Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 14.1.0: Mon Dec 22 23:10:38 PST 2014; root:xnu-2782.10.72~2/RELEASE_X86_64

Kernel UUID: DCF5C2D5-16AE-37F5-B2BE-ED127048DFF5

Kernel slide: 0x0000000003000000

Kernel text base: 0xffffff8003200000

__HIB text base: 0xffffff8003100000

System model name: iMac12,2

iMac, Mac OS X (10.2.x) , null

Posted on Jan 28, 2015 7:50 AM

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Posted on Jan 28, 2015 11:59 AM

I have the same issue. Disk is ejected properly and I go to power it off and I get a re-boot and then the white screen.

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Mar 18, 2015 11:31 AM in response to krenders

Same issue here too - everything was fine until upgrade to Yosemite 10.10.2


I'm running MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2013), 2.8 GHz Intel Corei7, with 16GB 1600 MHz DDR3

My external hard drive is a G Tech 4TB with Thunderbolt.


The ejection problem only occurs when connected via the Thunderbolt. When connected via the USB - everything works fine.


I have visited the Apple Store in Birmingham (UK) and their technicians, despite being very helpful and polite didn't have a solution! In fact they said they'd not seen it before. However they did create a record log with my serial number and sent it to Apple!


They suggested I booked my MB in for a fault finding check.


I went onto to explain that it seemed to be relevant to the Yosemite upgrade and it was then they said that there will soon be a 'bug fix' up date for Yosemite - but they didn't know what was going to be included in it.


Surely with all these similar problems Apple should realise that there is an issue with Yosemite 10.10.2 and they should be taking steps to rectify it.

Mar 20, 2015 4:07 PM in response to vanstar sydney

Same thing here with thunderbolt cables and the Mac Pro (black) when pulling the cables. The external drives cannot be shut down without trouble, so they are in sleep but still connected. I get the impression the bonding of mac and external drives is very tight. They are linked in one circuit. Maybe that's why there is this problem of kernel panics when the external drives are shut down. It seems to be a hardware/firmware problem. I hope Apple comes up with a solution to this.

Mar 21, 2015 2:20 AM in response to vanstar sydney

vanstar sydney wrote:


Interesting. I get tiny sparks when inserting USB3 cables from two of my LaCie ext. HD's (3TB, 5TB).

Should I be concerned, and what can be done to rectify the sparks?

I found this on the web:

http://superuser.com/questions/148408/why-do-i-get-sparks-from-my-usb-connector- when-connecting-it-to-my-mac

Nothing conclusive though.

Thanks

As I said, those sparks (with Thunderbolt cables though) once caused my iMac to shut itself off, go blank, and the power button was unresponsive for a short while. Maybe there's some degree of surge protection in there, but the motherboard might have also been fried by the voltage difference due to the ground loop.


I don't believe there's anything that can be done to suppress the sparks, they are side effects of electrical design. I think you should be concerned indeed. If you want to protect your costly computer and drives, and be on the safe side, do as I do and disconnect everything from AC power before connecting / disconnecting devices that each have their own AC power supply. You could also in addition depress power buttons while everything is disconnected from power, to make sure that internal capacitors are fully discharged and aren't keeping residual voltage.

Mar 22, 2015 7:41 AM in response to vanstar sydney

My iMac12,2 also crashes when I power down my thunderbolt hard drive. My workflow is to turn it on every few days to let Time machine write a backup, otherwise I leave the drive off to encourage longevity (if I am generating lots of data I leave it on).


So my quickest option is to eject it, then unplug the thunderbolt cable? I don't think so - I don't want to be forced to upgrade by frying my motherboard.


Come on Apple, rock solid hardware is not so rock solid when it has flaky drivers. Put a firmware engineer on this and it should be fixed in what, a couple of weeks? No firmware engineers available? Hire one.

Mar 23, 2015 5:40 PM in response to gregoryfromrex

Obviously no one from Apple is reading this thread, they probably expect their clients to solve their stupid problem. My iMac 27 died today when I unplugged a G-Tech thunderbolt drive like all cases mentioned above. It seems that in many cases their computers recovered. Mine did not. I have tried rebooting in every available mode, safe, command-option P-R, unplugging to reset smc, using the computer as a target from another computer, etc. To no avail. Contacted some IT engineers at my institution, the only suggestion was to wipe everything and start new!

When trying to reboot it only gets to half the status bar and it just freezes there.

Can I sue Apple? after all this is USA right? but big companies are insulated by the small type text that no one reads when installing software, since there is no option to NOT AGREE and still install it. That should be an option, don't you think.

I am a media teacher, in the middle of the semester, can Apple even imagine the frustration and hassle that Microsoft-style blunders like this inflict on their clients? Apple is indeed rapidly self destroying their base, time for a banana.

iMac crashes when powering off external Thunderbolt drive

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