Can't send pictures through text (MMS) when cellular data is off but connected to wifi

My wife and I each have an iPhone 5s through Verizon. Wife's iPhone is still on IOS 7 while I just updated mine to IOS 8.1.3 last night. We've hit our limit for the month on data and decided to turn off "Cellular Data" via Settings>Cellular. We're connected to Wifi at home and at work, and when we try to send a picture through text to someone with an Android OS phone, we get the red exclamation mark.


Is it not possible to send pictures through MMS without cellular data being on? If were connected to Wifi, does it NOT go through wifi to send?
We've hit our data limit a few times before and have done the same thing where we turn off Cellular Data, but we've never noticed this problem before.

I am assuming that SMS and MMS run through a different system from the normal internet, and that is the reason why an MMS cannot be sent through the internet and onto someone else's non-iMessage system. On the other hand, iMessage runs through the internet, so it connects just fine when we send pics to each other or people using iMessage.


Can someone please confirm or refute my thoughts and provide more information?

Thank you in advance!

iPhone 5s, iOS 8.1.3

Posted on Jan 29, 2015 6:42 PM

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Apr 12, 2016 8:12 PM in response to deggie

Yup, that's the way it seems to me.

You need DATA ON to send to a non-iphone. Or, turn DATA ON and hope there are no other charges or apps using data. Also, with DATA ON, I can not receive pictures mms from a non-iphone :-(


My previous phone is a Sony Z3 Android. One thing I loved about it was I could have Data Off, yet, it was smart enough to know mms needed data so it would use data automatically despite Data being Off. It was very handy... I miss that feature. Apple should do it too. Along with a text plan, sending MMS is a bonus at no extra charge... but those who design iOS and Android don't seem to take advantage of that and frustrate users. (like me.lol) I can't emphasize enough how important this little feature can be.

Apr 12, 2016 8:43 PM in response to jffy

jffy wrote:


Yup, that's the way it seems to me.

You need DATA ON to send to a non-iphone. Or, turn DATA ON and hope there are no other charges or apps using data. Also, with DATA ON, I can not receive pictures mms from a non-iphone :-

MMS REQUIRES a cell data connection.

My previous phone is a Sony Z3 Android. One thing I loved about it was I could have Data Off, yet, it was smart enough to know mms needed data so it would use data

So you can't really turn off data. Not good.

Apr 12, 2016 9:16 PM in response to Chris CA

Yes, MMS requires cell DATA connection, that is right. The cell DATA connection is enabled or disabled through your carrier if you ask them. If you do not pay for a DATA plan, DATA is still enabled and you will be charged excessively if you use it without a plan. Now, saying that, generally, everyone has data enabled unless they have chosen to tell their carrier to disable it. The Z3 Sony Android phone would enable DATA on the phone only for MMS. This is sooo amazing because you can have data disabled on your phone (although enabled through your carrier), and it will still send MMS(which is free to do with a text/voice plan). So, it IS good... because Sony was smart enough to do this.


I was paying $40 a month for voice/text(includes free picture mms they said)... but since mms requires data, how does one do it without data??? Sony has solved it. I never had extra charges with my Sony z3 because MMS was free even though it used data, when phone data was disabled. It was like an internal exception. It is like Sony disabled data for everything except MMS (because it is usually free)

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