Export PDF's with better quality, to be opened on PC

I like Pages, really, even if some functions are not intuitive.


But after months of using it and sending important PDFs i realized Pages PDF's look great on OSX Pages and Preview, but are useless if read in Acrobat (Mac) or with any reader on a PC. And I'm not talking images here, I'm talking distorted fonts. That looks very unprofessional when I have to deliver a paper.

I can't even show you on a screen cap because weirdly, when I take a screen cap with boft apps open at the same time the captured image show that both texts are distorted.


Exporting to word format gives another problem: it ***** up the whole structure and fonts, once again, if opened on a PC.


Why is all that and how to fix that? Unacceptable that PDF export can't be of decent quality...



Macbook Pro Retina 2014, everything updated etc, and i only use Time New Roman in Pages.


In advance, thanks.

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Mavericks (10.9.4)

Posted on Feb 1, 2015 12:32 PM

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Feb 1, 2015 2:51 PM in response to Skygge

"Print to" pdf is not illogical at all, that is in fact what it is doing, with the file being captured before it reaches the printer. It is one of the better features of OS X that pdf is ubiquitous and therefore everything can be printed quickly to pdfs for later reading, complete with links in most cases.


I have not been able to reproduce the problems of PDFs opened in Acrobat but I do not use PCs for this kind of work. Others have reported the problem but without enough specifics to narrow down the issue other than Acrobat does not render the OS X pdfs accurately.


Acrobat Pro has other problems as well so it is hard to know where to shift the blame. The PDF format was created by Adobe so I presume they should be able to define how it is formed and read.


I suggest you run your own tests, as I would, clearly labelling them as you go both in the file name and the contents. Look for whether fonts are being rendered correctly (perhaps being mismatched across systems) and what is happening to images and particularly instances of transparency in the document. Test what the end resolution is for the images in the document.


Then let us know what you have discovered.


Peter

Feb 1, 2015 4:47 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thanks for your answer.


I meant illogical because I don't want to print, I just want a PDF of decent quality that I can send to my professors. Write, save as, done.


dropbox link full resolution picture. On the left, Pages. On the right, Pages-exported PDF on Acrobat. Looks like no big deal, but it very eye catching.


I had take picture of the screen because screen cap gives a quality loss on the Pages font, see here:


dropbox link 2


I don't have any PC around so I cannot try, but the reason I "discovered" the problem is because a classmate opened one of my PDFs and commented the quality loss.


This part of your answer is chinese to me, sorry 😟


I suggest you run your own tests, as I would, clearly labelling them as you go both in the file name and the contents. Look for whether fonts are being rendered correctly (perhaps being mismatched across systems) and what is happening to images and particularly instances of transparency in the document. Test what the end resolution is for the images in the document.

Feb 1, 2015 5:05 PM in response to Skygge

Sorry I thought you were a native English speaker. Swedish/Danish/Norwegian?


Hard to determine anything from photographs of the screen with all the interference patterns.


You take a screensnap by holding down command shift 4 and dragging over the area you want. The screensnap is saved to the Desktop as a .png file.


On a PC you hit the Print Screen key on the keyboard.


I'll translate the "chinese" 🙂


You need to test the problem:


1. Create files with both text and images.


2. Label the files clearly as to what they are e.g. "Times Roman Images 300dpi Pages 5.5.2" etc


3. Also put that label in the document itself so you know what you are looking at and exactly what settings you used.


4. You appear to have used Times Roman. I suspect, but can't be sure, that what is happening is the Mac version is sharp and clear, but it is not being embedded or used by the PC which is substituting the Windows version.


5. Acrobat has a different and in my opinion inferior method of anti-aliasing fonts. Anti-aliasing is a method of smoothing fonts on screen by adding grey pixels in the curves and angles.


Sorry I can't do more but you have the files and I presume the recipients with the problems.


Peter

Feb 1, 2015 5:21 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

Hehe I'm not native, not Norwegian either, but I live in NO.


The "Chinese" is the technical stuff you mean, not the language.


I took a new snap that looks better. The reason the previous one was not satisfactory is I guess because i used Monosnap. So here is the new snap with cmd-shift-4:


User uploaded file


I used Times NR yes, it's standart for universitarian papers at least on my side of the pond, so I'll do some tests later, but I don't understand why there is no cross compatibility and why I seem to be the only one to complain about this. Am I the only one exporting to PDF? And even to word? Exporting to word format is even worse (change fonts and letters and structure). So it seems I have to get back to bulky open office... I'll try to make more testes tomorrow.

Feb 1, 2015 9:18 PM in response to Skygge

You are definitely not alone, many people have complained of poor on-screen appearance of Pages' PDF files on PCs.


Not something I can do a lot about, as I haven't encountered the problem myself and know from long experience that trying to fix PC problems from a Mac is an exercise in futility. Things can look naturally bad or distorted under Windows (all the many flavours and installations) and it takes a lot of toing and froing to even get a vague idea of what does what, and there is little comprehension or help by PC users who fix their problems by using MsOffice and nothing else.


Peter

Feb 1, 2015 11:16 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

Then I have to find something else... I like how Pages work.

I just realized that the PDFs exported from Keynote do the same and it's very annoying because it means I sent many papers that look very bad without even knowing it... 😟


Open Office exports as PDF give the same problem...


Any advice concerning text apps? I've never been a fan of Word and Open Office... but seems I have to go back to .docs if I find a soft that that do that correctly too.

Feb 10, 2015 4:29 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

Okay, sorry for the late answer, was kinda busy...


So, what happened next. I saved different files and compared on acrobat, and on a friends PC. here what came out:


- My friend mislead me, he thought the PDF had bad aliasing but it was because he opened it in word online

- Seems to look well on Word "offline" PC

- Suddenly it looked perfect in acrobat. I was wondering "Did I dream or what"? Few hours later looking bad again, and now looking good again. Weird.


So it seems that all along this was a no-problem triggered by my friend saying "your PDF looks bad" and confirmed by a randomly working Acrobat. Or maybe i missed something. Again. Anyways, thanks for your help.

Aug 8, 2015 11:59 AM in response to Skygge

To achieve better quality PDF exports of Pages documents, use Pages' print dialog to save it as a PostScript file. Then open the PS file with Preview, and use that to export the document as PDF. Preview has a specific feature for this, do not save via printing.


Documents converted this way appear fine on Windows PCs but are larger by file size for some reason.


I hope this helps.

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