Archive folder in Apple Mail is heavily populated

When I receive mail, I read it and either delete it or I file it into one of many mail folders I have made under "On My Mac". And I back up my data in a few different ways, nost notably I clone the entire HD to a backup drive using cloing software (SuperDuper) quite often.


That said, is there any use, reason, need for me to allow the Archive folder to be massively populated with seemingly every email I've received in about the previous three years??? The folder is absolutely huge and it takes my Mail app a long time to close when I shutdown the Mac these days. I'm wondering if having that Archive folder be emptied now and then would help with that Mail app shutdown process.


Any real need or reason to keep this Archive folder populated??? Will it even let me delete its contents since I haven't yet tried???


thanks... bob

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)

Posted on Feb 5, 2015 8:18 AM

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Feb 26, 2015 8:37 PM in response to Robert Paris

Hmmm, I fear i solved one problem but created a new one. I use Apple Mail on my mac and on that client I like to BCC myself on all mail I send. It's just an easy way for me to keep up with what I've sent to whom. I then either delete those bcc's if the mail isn't important but more often I file those bcc's into one of many subfolders I have for various topics. Works well.


I have for years had both comcast.net and gmail.com email accounts. Now I am in the process of switching over to frontier.com for my ISP as comcast service has gone downhill where I now live. For the moment, I have all three accounts but soon I will close the comcast.net accounts and continue on with the gmail and frontier. And I'm trying to lean more on using gmail accounts these days.


After recently changing gmail settings as directed in this thread by Glenn to get rid of the huge Archive mail folder (full of only gmail emails) on Apple Mail, I now have noticed that I can send an email from comcast.net, gmail.com or frontier.com with my normal BCC and that BCC shows up for the first and the third but NOT for the gmail account.


Any ideas as to why I am not receiving BCC emails in Apple Mail when sent from a Gmail account??? thanks...

Feb 27, 2015 6:52 AM in response to Robert Paris

Yes gmail is very complex on it's settings and seems to always have had problems with apple.

Hard to explain why your BCC isn't showing up in Mail. I have tested it on mine and it works. But the strange thing is if I delete it from the Sent folder, it will delete it from the Inbox also. So Mail seems to tie the 2 together as one.

I don't know what is happening on your computer. Check the Sent messages and see if the email is showing there.

Feb 27, 2015 8:54 AM in response to Glenn Leblanc

Hi Glenn, Yes, the supposed bcc'd email IS in my Sent mail folder... Last night, to avoid the confusion of sending emails to myself, I sent three "toss these" emails to my wife, one from each of the three different domains, comcast.net, gmail.com and frontier.com. By sending those to her, I had only to look for one copy, the bcc'd copy, to show up in my Apple Mail.


When I wrote each email and changed the "from" from one to the next of the three above mentioned domains, I noticed that, as expected, a BCC showed up in the bcc line of each email with the correct email address for the given domain. I then sent all three, one at a time, to my wife. Waited a minute or two and back came TWO of the bcc's, with only the gmail email not present.


So all three show up in Sent. Only two showed up as BCC's. Gotta be one of those 400 gmail settings. Now to figure out which one.


Again, I have a desire to begin moving more fully to gmail but would like to maintain the ability to use BCC.


Holler if you think of something interesting to try as a test.


thanks... bob

Feb 27, 2015 9:52 AM in response to Robert Paris

If I think of something I will reply. Maybe it would be best for you to post another question related to this topic where someone else may have an answer. It will be more visible to others this way. If you do, let me know. I'd like to keep up with it.


I've pretty much given up on gmail because of the changing issues with apple. It does work for me, but as I said, looks like Mail considers the BCC the same as what's in the Sent folder whether Conversations are enabled or not. Deleting from the Sent folder deletes it from the Inbox.

I looked for setting at the gmail site, but didn't see anything to change.


Just another one of those glitches to figure out.

Feb 27, 2015 10:31 AM in response to Glenn Leblanc

Perhaps I too should move away rather than toward gmail. I was just trying to use as primary an email domain that was not tied to my ISP such that if I leave the ISP, I don't have to change a lot of email addresses out in the world. Might have to revisit that plan. Thanks for the help. If I post a new question (no time right now), I will come here and share the link so you can watch it if you wish.


thanks much... bob

Feb 27, 2015 10:40 AM in response to Robert Paris

Depends on what you are looking for from an email provider. If you have all apple devices, then you might look at apple mail. Should be the least troublesome, but it's basic email. If you have a combination of devices, then you might research on email that works well on all devices.

As for a free provider, gmail is good, but a bit complex on their settings. If you are willing to keep playing around with it, you can probably to get it to work as you want.


You could also experiment with other mail applications. I've seen a lot of people who like Thunderbird.

I'm just a basic user, so I love apple mail. Works well for me.

Yes, post the link if you create another question.

Aug 11, 2015 5:08 PM in response to Robert Paris

I'm curious if you fixed the archive problem? I just upgraded to Yosemite over the weekend (previously running 10.8.5) and I discovered yesterday that I have those archived folders for Gmail accounts that I never before had in Apple Mail. They hold about 80k emails (on top of the 40k emails I have in other folders), so needless to say, the apple mail client is struggling and crashing. I want to get rid of those stupid archive folders without decimating the Gmail folders in apple mail that I use every day.


Thx.

Aug 11, 2015 6:24 PM in response to thinkculture

Hi, I followed what Glenn Leblanc offered. See what I posted as an answer under my original post. This got rid of the large Archive folders that existed for each of my Gmail account. However, I cannot say that doing so really fixed the sluggishness of Apple Mail. I think it's better but still not great. Sometimes, when I shut down, Apple Mail still takes a while to quit. Though sometimes it closes quickly. Not sure what's up with Apple Mail these days... So the solution Glenn Leblanc offered got rid of the large Archive Folders but Apple Mail still has issues...


bob...

Sep 15, 2015 10:16 PM in response to Robert Paris

I've read this entire thread and have yet to figure out how to deal with that archive folder. I recently upgraded from 10.8.5 to 10.10.4 and ever since Apple Mail has been frozen or dysfunctional a good portion of the time. My archive folder (of just Gmails) has about 60k emails in it. I know that I didn't create it, so it must be a function of Apple Mail in Yosemite. I can't even click on it to open it.


Per Glen's advice to hide the All Mail folder, I don't see an All Mail folder anywhere in Apple Mail. As of now, my mail is pretty much broken—no doubt weighed down by tens of thousands of emails but I can't figure out how to get rid of them.

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