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Setting up airport extreme to replace netgear router

Hi,


Thanks in advance for help and advice with this one. Im desperate to replace my unreliable netgear router so i bought a Apple Airport Extreme base station (Generation 6).


At the moment I have my satellite box (tooway satellite provided by europasat) plugged into my netgear router and can access the internet via the wifi. I also have my airport extreme WAN port plugged into one of the netgear router ethernet bays. So effectively I have 2 wireless networks and can connect to the internet with both.


I tried removing my netgear router from the system and plugging my satellite box directly into the airport extreme and started set up. The airport extreme sets up ok but i just get an orange light for the internet.. I have tried using static IP, DCHP etc and also changing it from off bridge mode to DCHP and DCHP and NAT but i get various errors. Its keeps asking for a DNS address but i don't know what to enter..


If i look on my router setup its currently set to get IP addresses dynamically from the ISP.


Can anyone help me set this up properly without the netgear router (which constantly resets and drops the internet connection!!)


I just need a reliable home network that can connect several macs, iPads and iPhones, PS4 etc


Happy to paypal a small contribution for anyone who can help.


Thanks,

Adam

Posted on Feb 6, 2015 12:52 PM

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Feb 6, 2015 1:02 PM in response to adamunsworth

Im desperate to replace my unreliable netgear router so i bought a Apple Airport Extreme base station (Generation 6).

Often, it is not the router that is unreliable with satellite connections, it is the satellite connection itself.


How have you tested and verified that the problem is with the Netgear router.....and not with the satellite connection itself?

Feb 6, 2015 2:48 PM in response to adamunsworth

Sorry, but I am not yet convinced that the Netgear is the issue here, since we have seen a number cases where satellite providers are delivering a "private" IP address to their clients, when they should be delivering a "public" IP address.


If you hook up the satellite connection directly to your computer, and leave it that way for a day or two, does the connection remain stable that way?


What IP address is your satellite equipment delivering to the computer when you test the setup this way?

Feb 6, 2015 7:28 PM in response to adamunsworth

As per Bob's comment it is important to find the IP the satellite service gives you.. most do not hand out IPv4 public Addresses but use private IP in the 10.x.x.x range.. this will stop the Airport working properly.


Just reset your AE to factory and start again.


With the Satellite modem plugged into the WAN port, what IP do you get?


You will need to have the AE setup to DHCP and NAT in the network section but you cannot use 10.0.1.x as normal if the WAN IP is anything in the 10.x.x.x range, so move it to 192.168 via the network options under the dhcp settings


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Feb 6, 2015 11:10 PM in response to LaPastenague

Hi,


I reset the AE and plugged it directly into the satellite box. It said my local IP was 169.254.73.218 and in airport utility my details were IP address 10.100.38.234 (same for LAN IP address) so i cycled the power on the box and went through set up.


Changed the settings from Bridge mode off to DCHP and NAT and change the range to 192.168 as you suggested - the internet came on!


However i now have this message: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hacrdq6gfw63zkc/Screenshot%202015-02-07%2007.09.49.png ?dl=0


I get an orange light flashing on the AE and it says status - double NAT


What should I do?


Thanks,

Adam

Feb 7, 2015 6:57 AM in response to adamunsworth

my details were IP address 10.100.38.234


As we suspected, your satellite provider is giving you a "private" IP address, and not the "public" IP address that you should be receiving. There is nothing wrong with the Netgear router, but it sounds like you have the AirPort Extreme connected at this time.


"Off" Bridge Off would normally be the correct setting to use with your satellite "modem" since it is behaving as if it were another router.


Unfortunately, you will have to use the DHCP and NAT setting on your AirPort Extreme to compensate for the incorrect IP address assignments that your satellite service is providing to you. Since your satellite "modem" is already providing NAT service, and the AirPort Extreme is as well, you have two devices both trying to do NAT.......that is why you see the Double NAT error.


Unless you can get your satellite provider to provide you with a "public" IP address, you will have to continue to run the AirPort Extreme in the Double NAT setup and hope for the best. You might be able to get away with this error on a simple home network.


If you do not want to see the blinking amber light, open AirPort Utility and click on the AirPort Extreme. A smaller window will appear. Look for a Status setting and click on the small amber dot next to Status. Another window will appear with an option to "Ignore" the Double NAT error. That will give you a green light on the AirPort Extreme, and hopefully things will work.


Double NAT can cause a number of unpredictable things to occur on a network, but the most common is slow browsing on the Internet, and/or you may be able to get to some web pages, but not others.


Hopefully, things will work OK for you since you really will no other options to set up the AirPort Extreme correctly until you receive the correct public IP address that you deserve from your satellite provider. You might want to speak to them about this and let them know that you are on to their tricks, though.

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