Q: Not able to restore my new iPhone with a new Apple ID with my old phone with a different Apple ID...I want the complete backup from old phone to new phone but don't want to use the same old phone Apple ID on new phone..please help

You don't really want a new Apple Account (which is what you are describing) - all of your iTunes purchases will still be tied to the old Apple Account, all of your iCloud info will be under that old Account, all of your Messages will be under that old Account.

Why not just to to Manage your Apple ID and edit your Apple ID to the new email you want it to be? You cannot edit an Apple ID using an Apple Domain email address (@me.com, @mac.com, @iCloud.com), but if your current ID is not using one of those type of email addresses, then changing it is the way you want to go. That way, everything stays with the Apple ID since it is the same Apple account.

Just be sure to sign out of all apps on the device (iCloud, Messages, iTunes & App Store, FaceTime) before you change it.

To EDIT your current Apple ID at Manage your Apple ID go to: Apple - My Apple ID

Cheers,

GB

What "contents", specifically, are you referring to?

Cheers,

GB

You can put the data back on the phone, however anything purchased with the old Apple ID is locked to that Apple ID, and you would need to still have his password when it came time to update them. You can log in with your new Apple ID on the device. Just remember, if you used iCloud, you would not be able to retain your backups with the old ID and load on the new device.

Those would be connected to the Apple ID that was being used before as I indicated in the initial response. Contacts, apps, messages are all tied to the Apple/iCloud ID that they were created with. Photos can be downloaded from a photo app on the computer via iTunes, but that's about it.

Cheers,

GB

Wait, I have the same problem.  When I got my wife an iPhone, I just used my Apple ID to sign her in.   Now I got her a new iPhone.  I "invited" her new Apple ID to share our purchases but now what to sign her into her new phone with her new Apple ID and restore from her old iPhone logged in from my Apple ID.  Got it?

Wife old iPhone - signed in with my Apple ID and backed up.

Wife creates Apple ID of her own.

I invite Wife's Apple ID to family sharing

Wife gets new iPhone

Wife signs into her Apple ID on her new iPhone, wants to restore all data - pics, contacts, text from old iPhone.

Wife connects iPhone to computer, locates backup of old device, restores to backup. Got it?

As indicated earlier, if there is content on the device from the old ID, that will be needed to update that content if necessary. The change to sharing and then wanting to put old data on the device from the backup could create an issue with the creation of the new ID, but family sharing may also minimize the problem.

Thanks for the input.  This is just not a "use-case" that Apple covers very well.  I gave up and just logged the new phone into my single Apple ID and restored.  Worked like a charm but then had to fix the fact that both phones are getting the same phone calls and text messaging.   But now that is all fixed. 

Both phones still on single Apple ID.

Apple needs to address this use case.

You can send feedback to Apple about your concern. http://www.apple.com/feedback

I believe a lot of the issue stems around the changes you made, what order they were made in, and the fact that you wanted to retain content on here device that was purchased/downloaded with your Apple ID. That issue comes from the fact that content is locked to the Apple ID used to purchase/download the content. It would have been better to create her device as new with the new Apple ID, then create the Family Sharing, and then get the content from your sharing at that time. Just really a timing issue. But, I'm glad you were able to sort it out. Using the same Apple ID on two devices causes its own set of problems with Handoff and continuity, and the ability to get messages, calls, etc. on multiple devices.

kurtj29 wrote:

 

Thanks for the input.  This is just not a "use-case" that Apple covers very well.  I gave up and just logged the new phone into my single Apple ID and restored.  Worked like a charm but then had to fix the fact that both phones are getting the same phone calls and text messaging.   But now that is all fixed.

 

Both phones still on single Apple ID.

 

Apple needs to address this use case.

You shouldn't be using the same Apple ID on two different user iOS devices.  Each individual should have their own Apple ID, for iCloud/iMessage/FaceTime.  If you want to share purchased content, either use Family Sharing, or do what we did before that was an option:  log into the Apple ID in iTunes & App Store, download the purchased content you want to the device, then sign out of the (friend/family member's) Apple ID, then sign back in with your personal one.

And it's already 'addressed' by Apple: https://appleid.apple.com/faq

Your Apple ID is what identifies you, as an individual, to the Apple systems.  If you use the same Apple ID in iCloud on two different devices, then the system assumes that you're wanting to share things like your iCloud contacts & calendars between the two devices.  In fact, the reason you were both getting the same phone calls & text messages was because of the Continuity feature.  Don't want that to happen?  Don't use the same Apple ID as your wife in iCloud on your individual devices. And Continuity is explained very well here: Use Continuity to connect your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Mac - Apple Support

Your failure to understand the design intentions of the technology does not equate to a failure on Apple's part to properly explain the feature, or provide resources for you to educate yourself.  Not everything can be designed to be intuitive to everyone.  That's where the personal responsibility of self-education comes in.

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