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Seagate 500GB External HD won't mount-help!

My external Seagate FreeAgent 500 GB hard drive changed its partition type to nothing. . .

here is what it looks like in Terminal:

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imac-users-imac:~ imacuser$ diskutil info /dev/disk4

Device Node: /dev/disk4

Device Identifier: disk4

Mount Point:

Volume Name:


Partition Type:

Bootable: Not bootable

Media Type: Generic

Protocol: USB

SMART Status: Not Supported


Total Size: 465.8 GB

Free Space: 0.0 B


Read Only: No

Ejectable: Yes

OS 9 Drivers: No

Low Level Format: Not Supported

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By contrast, one of the internal drives looks like this:


imac-users-imac:~ imacuser$ diskutil info /dev/disk2

Device Node: /dev/disk2

Device Identifier: disk2

Mount Point:

Volume Name:


Partition Type: Apple_partition_scheme

Bootable: Not bootable

Media Type: Generic

Protocol: ATA

SMART Status: Verified


Total Size: 25.5 GB

Free Space: 0.0 B


Read Only: No

Ejectable: No

OS 9 Drivers: Yes

Low Level Format: Not Supported


Any help is appreciated. I know I should have been backing up this drive.

I have over 10 years' worth of freelance work, plus 100s of reference photos,

websites, resumes, portfolios on it. I have been exploring testdisk, photorec,

Data rescue, Disk Utility (which sees the drive, and gives me this message:


Verifying volume “disk4s2”

Error: The underlying task reported failure on exit



1 non HFS volume checked

Volume needs repair

The thing is, I have searched for individual files, and I can see the paths to them. However, I cannot mount them or send them

to another drive. I also receive this message in Terminal:


Error (-9958) encountered attempting to verify/repair disk4


Message was edited by: Michael Brugh, spelling correction

PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.4.11), 2003 Mirror Door, 1.25 GHz, 2GB RAM

Posted on Feb 17, 2015 8:30 AM

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Feb 17, 2015 11:20 AM in response to Michael Brugh

Your filesystem appears to be damaged beyond what Apple's Disk Utility is willing to repair.

Frankly it's insane to have one copy of 10 years worth of files you think are important, with that out of the way.


If you really need the data and want it back with the most likely chance of success of reading it all stop using it right now and contact a drive recovery company. They have the knowledge & expertise that could save data from a disk that may have a very limited amount of life left - sometimes falling disks will stop reading as physical damage gets worse. It will be expensive, but it's the best option they should have clean rooms for disassembling & checking it is operational. They may also know what different noises may mean - any abnormal sounds are clues to what the disk is doing (or not doing).

Another thing to consider – the external case or USB port, cable or power supply could be failing. Removing the disk & installing into another case may be a possible way to see the disks state. The age of the disk will dictate the type of case you need (SATA or ATA). Also see if another Mac mounts it - the OS could be failing not the disk.

These are the risks that your own attempts to recover or repair.

  • Causing more damage to the HD until it becomes totally unreadable, running several recovery or repair tools may simply cause more damage.
  • A physical failure can simply become fatal to the ability to read any data.
  • Repair tools can cause files to be lost or can recover many duplicates of data without the file names or folder structure - it can make sorting them impossible or very time consuming.
  • Risk damaging or altering all other connected disks … tools like photorec & testdisk are not forgiving of typo's you can easily be working with the wrong disk. Remove ALL the disks that are cannot afford to be lost (it sounds extreme, but you are already in a bad situation don't make it worse). Device names are confusing, verify twice before doing anything.
  • You need another disk to recover data onto this needs to be larger than the 500GB drive - you will get duplicates & may need to 'image' the entire drive before attempting repairs on the image (to limit more damage to a mechanical issue). Several disks may actually be required. ddrescue is a free tool to image failing disks.
  • Time is another important factor, recovery or repair can be very a slow process & should also not be rushed, spend time reading manuals & guides before using tools that are new to you. Also read other sites that discuss the tools.


It's unclear what the actual issue here is & what options you would like to take. You could just try every utility you can find, but that will cause the disk to die if it is having mechanical issues. You need to be methodical & log what info you have.


Are you really on a G4 Power Mac with 10.4.11? You will need older versions of tools like Disk Warrior to handle the disk format correctly, otherwise they may fail or cause other damage.

Feb 18, 2015 6:03 AM in response to Drew Reece

Yes, I am really on a Power Mac G4 Mirror Door. I have been working diligently to get a more recent Mac. Don't worry, I have been chastising myself plenty over this situation. I used to be a Network Administrator for 10 years, so I know the importance of backups.


A data recovery company is the very last resort. I did download Stellar Phoenix Mac Data Recovery, v. 6.0.0.1. It does see the affected drive, and on the Search Lost/Deleted Volumes option, it shows the drive with this configuration:


Partition Type: GUID_partition_scheme

Bootable: Not bootable

Protocol: FireWire

Drive Capacity: 465.8 (GBBytes)

Ejectable: Yes


It gives me the option to Scan; however, before I click on it, I wanted to see if anyone has had success with this app. So many reviews out there; one says Data Rescue is best (didn't help), another says Tech Tool Pro is best, testdisk, photorec, etc.

Feb 18, 2015 10:11 AM in response to Michael Brugh

Michael Brugh wrote:


Yes, I am really on a Power Mac G4 Mirror Door. I have been working diligently to get a more recent Mac. Don't worry, I have been chastising myself plenty over this situation. I used to be a Network Administrator for 10 years, so I know the importance of backups.


A data recovery company is the very last resort. I did download Stellar Phoenix Mac Data Recovery, v. 6.0.0.1. It does see the affected drive, and on the Search Lost/Deleted Volumes option, it shows the drive with this configuration:


Partition Type: GUID_partition_scheme

Bootable: Not bootable

Protocol: FireWire

Drive Capacity: 465.8 (GBBytes)

Ejectable: Yes


It gives me the option to Scan; however, before I click on it, I wanted to see if anyone has had success with this app. So many reviews out there; one says Data Rescue is best (didn't help), another says Tech Tool Pro is best, testdisk, photorec, etc.


The other disk you show in the Disk Utility output is an 'Apple partition map' not GUID. 10.4 does support both so your failed disk may be GUID, but I would double check via other tools. I would expect a PPC user to have more APM disks than GUID. Testdisk should give you info before offering to write out to disk.


I have found testdisk is good for fixing partition data & photorec is good for salvaging files (e.g. file carving, possibly without file names).


TechTool Pro ruined an OS disk for me several years ago, so I don't trust it. Disk Warrior has fixed disks for me numerous times.


Disk Drill may also be worth a look…

http://www.cleverfiles.com

I have only used it in free mode to do some test scans, never actually had the need for use in a real situation.


ddrescue may be an option if you want to do a clone to another disk to try to leave this one alone (if you suspect hardware that is dying). ddrescue will avoid retrying reading of bad sectors & can be run multiple times to pull data off a disk. You can attempt repairs on the clone & avoid worrying about too many mistakes. You can also 'clone the clone' to get several chances at recovery without touching the original disk more than one full read.


Have you had a good listen to the disk, does it sound OK?

Have you considered pulling it out of the case to see if it works via other drive interfaces?

Feb 18, 2015 11:06 AM in response to Drew Reece

Ah, you may be right on the Intel things, must be in fact, the first Mini Core Solo came with 10.4.5, the first Mac Pro with 10.4.7, so Machine specific Intel Discs are probably OK, not sure on Machine specific PPC Discs, I know the Retail 10.4 Discs I have won't handle GUID, only 10.4.11 on PPC I think is still valid, would be happy to be proved wrong though. 🙂

Feb 18, 2015 11:21 AM in response to BDAqua

The site that is full of liars, scoundrels & some of the best people on the internet say 10.4.0 had support & 10.4.6 added features…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#UNIX_and_Unix-like_operating_s ystems

😝


Apples docs are linked…

https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/technotes/tn2166/_index.html


Apple's Support for GPT

Any Macintosh computer running Mac OS X 10.4 and later can mount GPT-partitioned disks.

On all Intel-based Macintosh computers (and, starting with Mac OS X 10.4.6, PowerPC-based computers as well), Disk Utility has full support for GPT. The

diskutil
command line tool also includes GPT support. See its man page for details.

The PPC manual is missing some GPT info though.

Feb 19, 2015 12:06 PM in response to Michael Brugh

I thought that error meant that fsck had failed, however this (somewhat old) document suggests trying an fsck in single user mode…

Disk Utility reports "Underlying task reported failure" when repairing a volume - Apple Support

It may just be because Apple expect the user may be trying to fix the boot volume, fsck is best done when not mounted read+write.


There is some interesting info (also old) from Dale Weisshaar…

Underlying task reported failure on exit


See if you can find better info that is more recent - it sounds somewhat generic to me, the original "Error (-9958)" may find better info unless single user mode gives mode feedback. Do you know how to fsck the external in SU mode Michael?

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