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Hard Disk Drive Replacement Options

Hi:


I have a 2009 MacBook Pro. Recently it started acting funny and a friend suggested it might be the hard drive. I got a copy of Scannerz to check the drive and about 10 minutes into the scan it started finding problems. I ran Scannerz in diag mode to confirm it wasn't the SATA cable, and it passed that with flying colors. I need a new hard drive.


Here's my dilemma: I'm on a budget. The most I can afford is between $125 to $150 to replace the hard drive. The question is, can I get a decent SSD for this much money?


Before I continue, I should state that I use a dual boot system. I still have a 100GB partition with Snow Leopard on it because I have some old applications that are older PPC applications. They're rarely used, but they do get used a few times a year. The rest of the drive is Mavericks.


I see the following as possible options:

1. Get an SSD that I can split so that I have 2 partitions again. It would need to be at least 256GB, and that's probably pushing it, probably more like 350GB is what I'd like.


2. Just get a hard drive. I've read on here that some of the Hitachi drives are fast for old mechanical drives and they're cheap too. I'd have money left over.


3. Create a Fusion drive with a smallish SSD and a hard drive. Setting it up using an article I read about in CNET doesn't look that hard, but the idea of taking out the optical drive and putting some type of adapter in there to hold either an SSD or HDD just seems a little risky. Also, isn't the speed of the optical drive slower than those of drives? Do I need a new cable if I consider doing this?


4. The Scannerz tech support people said I might want to get a new SATA cable anyway. Any idea why they would say that? They don't sell parts so that obviously wasn't the motivation.


When answering, please keep costs in mind. The total I'm will to spend, absolute max, is $150.


Thank you.

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5), Hard Drive Replacement

Posted on Feb 17, 2015 5:42 PM

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Feb 21, 2015 6:48 PM in response to MrWilliams201

I think you should look at the 240-ish sized SSD drives. They tend to have more chips inside that can be accessed at the same time, boosting performance. And the size is more like a "regular" drive.


SATA Bus speed is a load of specs-manship. Rotating Drives in this class can't produce data fast enough to get clipped:

A typical Rotating drive can produce a single burst of data off the platters at about 125 MB/sec.

Some SSD drives can do sustained reads of about 500 MB/sec. (Some Samsung go higher, but at a price)


SATA at 3 Mbits/sec is 375 Mbytes/sec

SATA at 6 Mbits/sec is 750 Mbytes/sec


The other thing to consider is that an SSD drive uses less power, and generates less noise and heat.

Feb 22, 2015 10:57 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Like I said in my original post, that would be pushing it. I don't want to have to manage a system the way i did a long time ago when I was using Windows on a system without enough drive space. Back then I was constantly having to off load stuff to USB memory sticks, copy data to CDROM, or put it on a floppy drive just to make sure I wasn't running out of space. This is one of the problems with SSDs - they just cost too much.


Keep in mind my system is no approaching 6 years old and they can be bought on eBay and other places for just a few hundred dollars.

Feb 23, 2015 10:55 AM in response to MrWilliams201

It sounds to me like you've already committed to a two drive system with an SSD and an HDD. Maybe you already bought the stuff.


In any case, keep in mind that with a Fusion drive, backups are particularly important. There's no easy way to tell which file or portion of file is on a given disk at a given time, so backups are absolutely critical. In this sense, it's almost like a striped RAID set.

Feb 23, 2015 6:05 PM in response to MrWilliams201

MrM201,

I just got through rebuilding a similar MB Pro with a HDD and replaced the cable. I shopped on line and found them for $40, but I settled for a used one from Amazon for $20 and it works perfectly. How's that fit your budget? It's easy to replace if you watch several YouTube videos. Remember to put tape on the inside of the case where the cable runs to prevent future abrasion and failure.

Good look.

R

Feb 24, 2015 11:14 AM in response to MrWilliams201

Update:


I bought the SanDisk SSD and the Hitachi HDD. Right now I've got them configured with Snow Leopard using 250GB on the HDD, and Mavericks on the SSD. I intend to create a large data partition, probably, remarkably, named "Data" on the HDD and put all the big stuff, like photo, music, and video libraries on that.


Now, if I want to convert the SSD/HDD combo to a Fusion drive, is there a way to do this in place with everything installed, or do I need to make the Fusion drive from scratch and re-install the Mavericks partition. I'm under the impression that if I made one big Fusion drive with 2 partitions, I wouldn't be able to put Snow Leopard on the other Fusion partition because Snow Leopard apparently doesn't even know what a Fusion drive is. Is that right?

Feb 25, 2015 10:35 AM in response to MrWilliams201

MrWilliams201 wrote:


Update:


I bought the SanDisk SSD and the Hitachi HDD. Right now I've got them configured with Snow Leopard using 250GB on the HDD, and Mavericks on the SSD. I intend to create a large data partition, probably, remarkably, named "Data" on the HDD and put all the big stuff, like photo, music, and video libraries on that.


Now, if I want to convert the SSD/HDD combo to a Fusion drive, is there a way to do this in place with everything installed, or do I need to make the Fusion drive from scratch and re-install the Mavericks partition. I'm under the impression that if I made one big Fusion drive with 2 partitions, I wouldn't be able to put Snow Leopard on the other Fusion partition because Snow Leopard apparently doesn't even know what a Fusion drive is. Is that right?


You can encrypt a single volume which causes that to be turned into a Core Storage partition but to create a Fusion requires the drives/volumes you want to use to be reformatted. From the SpudNutty link, see the following article:


http://blog.macsales.com/15617-creating-your-own-fusion-drive


I believe, however, that you can split the partition on the HDD, convert one unused section of that to Core Storage, then add that to the SSD. You may even be able to do likewise with the SSD, but why would you do that?


The splitting data article that spudnuty linked might be a better idea because you could do that with both OS versions, if interested.

Feb 26, 2015 11:00 AM in response to MrJavaDeveloper

A thank you goes out to everyone for their helpful replies.


More questions about Fusion setups. If one part of a Fusion goes down can the data on the other drive be accessed and saved. I get the impression it can't and it has to be treated like a striped RAID unit. Also, can a Fusion have more than just one hard drive. For example, could it be set up with one SSD and two hard drives? I'm not thinking about doing that at this time but I'm just curious if a Fusion can be expanded dynamically. About 10 years ago I worked on a Unix system (I think it was an IBM AIX) and if I recall correctly drives could be added to it and made part of a larger volume (don't quote me on that, I'm doing it from memory and it was a long time ago.)

Feb 27, 2015 1:43 PM in response to MrWilliams201

More questions about Fusion setups. If one part of a Fusion goes down can the data on the other drive be accessed and saved. I get the impression it can't and it has to be treated like a striped RAID unit. Also, can a Fusion have more than just one hard drive. For example, could it be set up with one SSD and two hard drives? I'm not thinking about doing that at this time but I'm just curious if a Fusion can be expanded dynamically. About 10 years ago I worked on a Unix system (I think it was an IBM AIX) and if I recall correctly drives could be added to it and made part of a larger volume (don't quote me on that, I'm doing it from memory and it was a long time ago.)


No, the managing software decides what's on what drive at what time, and in some cases at a given instance, part of a file might be on the SSD and the other part on the HDD.


I'd like to offer an opinion, meaning the comment isn't right or wrong, it's just an opinion. If it were my system and I had multiple OSes on it, with one (Snow Leopard) being completely oblivious to what a Fusion drive is, I would just use regular formatted drives and skip the Fusion all together. If you ever wanted to transfer something from the Mavericks partition on the Fusion to the Snow Leopard partition while running under Snow Leopard, you won't be able to do it. Snow Leopard won't be able to read anything off of it. If you had a Snow Leopard, Mavericks, and Data partition, each could be backed up independently, nearly everything is accessible, and if one drive would fail (SSDs do fail, by the way) it would make restoring and/or transferring stuff just that much easier.


Like I said, it's just an opinion. If you just want to create a Fusion for the fun of it, then by all means, have at it.

Mar 2, 2015 11:15 AM in response to MrJavaDeveloper

There seems to be somewhat of a consensus to avoid the Fusion drive configuration, but I did it anyway. The system is up and running, and might I add, quite quick. Everything is working and quite quickly. I would say the system now boots in 30 seconds or less when it used to boot in about a minute. I keep good backups all the time so if the Fusion proves to be problematic for some reason then I can reconfigure it. All I'll need to do is reformat and clone back my current backups and clones as needed.


Thank you to everyone for your help.

Mar 3, 2015 12:02 PM in response to MrWilliams201

If you're keeping good backups you can do whatever you want. Many people don't keep backups at all, and even more couldn't even figure out how to configure a Fusion drive, so congratulations.


You may find, however, that with a Fusion, during drive intensive tasks the system may act more like an old hard drive than an SSD. It will depend on how full your logical volume gets.

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