How much weight can a Mac Mini hold?
How much long term dead weight can a mac mini hold?
I am looking for an actual answer - not a work around.
Don't say zero either because that's not true.
Mac mini, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)
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How much long term dead weight can a mac mini hold?
I am looking for an actual answer - not a work around.
Don't say zero either because that's not true.
Mac mini, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)
If you could support the bottom of the Mini around the metal periphery of the bottom vice the plastic disk it would well support a 22" monitor.
The problem with being supported by the plastic disk with a heavy weight is that if the weight is not evenly distributed, the plastic may cold flow unevenly over time resulting in unequal pressure on the bottom and tilting of what is on top and even it falling off but I doubt it would go that far that fast. The Mini/plastic getting hot would accelerate the cold flow.
The metal part of the 2012 Mini (the one I have) should easily support even a Thunderbolt monitor.
Another problem with putting something on top is that it may attenuate wifi and BT reception. I noticed that when I had may external HD on top on my Mini
If you could support the bottom of the Mini around the metal periphery of the bottom vice the plastic disk it would well support a 22" monitor.
The problem with being supported by the plastic disk with a heavy weight is that if the weight is not evenly distributed, the plastic may cold flow unevenly over time resulting in unequal pressure on the bottom and tilting of what is on top and even it falling off but I doubt it would go that far that fast. The Mini/plastic getting hot would accelerate the cold flow.
The metal part of the 2012 Mini (the one I have) should easily support even a Thunderbolt monitor.
Another problem with putting something on top is that it may attenuate wifi and BT reception. I noticed that when I had may external HD on top on my Mini
From the Apple Store:
From OWC:
hilltrot wrote:
Don't say zero either because that's not true.
But what if that is the official answer? See How to position your Mac mini
All of the user guides for the older minis with optical drives also say to never put anything on top. The newer minis don't have optical drives, that warning message, or any user guides for that matter.
That is not how you would find out long term weight. That is how you would find very short term crush weight.
Do the destructive test on one Mini. And then another one should safely be able to hold half that weight.
If you want more of a factor of safety just use 1/4 or less weight.
Not all devices are tested for all possible things that people can do with them so I doubt Apple did such a test.
"Not all devices are tested for all possible things . . . " ? You sarcastically acting as if I asked something rare or unusual.
It's perfectly normal to set something on large flat surfaces. This isn't like a tiny NUC, it isn't made of cheap plastic or pieces of cheap metal. It's a solid piece of aluminum machined to exact specifications. There's no air intake up there. Pressing on the apple symbol by itself might be a problem, but that's not what I'm asking.
The LC was made of cheap plastic, was real thin and could hold a 40 pound monitor for decades and never fail. It's not like I'm asking about something unusual that has never been done with a Macintosh. At the same time I do understand that most consumer monitors weigh far less than they did. I would expect an answer between 1 and 10 pounds. However, if it is more I would be pleasantly surprised.
If this were like the first mac mini which was in the shape of a cube, I might understand where some of you are coming from. But this is very flat and takes up a lot of real estate on a desk. It is not small enough to be attached to the back of a monitor like a NUC or a Wintel thin client. (You could force it, but it would be awkward.) My job is not dependent on my looking good or conspicuous wealth, so I don't need to show off the machined aluminum.
It could be that the design team at apple has gotten worse at making functional equipment, but I'm hoping that they haven't just decided to make worthless bling. If I'm wrong, maybe I was wrong in switching back and I should just buy a better made (Since it seems like everyone on this forum thinks the Macs are just cheaply-made bling.), faster, and upgradable Alienware Alpha.
Stop the silly answers please.
You say the new Mini is flat and takes up a lot of real estate on a desk;
but it can be set up on its side and run that way indefinitely. There also
have been stacking brackets for when these are used in server farms.
There were no silly answers to your nebulous request for information
that would generally be determined (in fact) by destructive testing at
a facility similar to how other products of durable necessity would be.
However, since nobody is suggesting anyone use these new metal
Minis as building blocks, insider people aren't going to tell if they know.
A limit would be first evidenced by a failure of the removable base plate.
And the port section along the back. Also, the wi-fi antenna in topcase.
In comparison, the new Mini external specs are about half the height and
only a few centimeters wide/deep; the newer (late 2012) that may have
dual hard disk drives inside, would weigh more, too. I have a recent Mini
and also the last model G4 produced. In the same room.
The means of placing the Mini on its side, securely, should resolve some
of the desk-wasting space. There also are third-party adapters to put the
unit on the back of a display, or elsewhere.
If it weren't near 2:30AM, perhaps some time would be dedicated to more
research on this weight question. Other things are weighing on my mind.
Good luck in any event... đ
Not sure but my 2012 Mini has a solid case and could probably hold some moderate weight. I have seen people put the monitor on top of the Mini. However I got a vertical stand from OWC and keep my Mini upright to use less desktop space.
Since a similar form-factor for Mini has been in place for nearly 4 years, if one
includes the last model with an optical drive built-in, of unified aluminum case,
the topic of placing objects on top of them has been asked and answers had
been available online. A search can find several across the web; and more
than a few appeared in these ASC discussions.
â˘examples of similar question, results vary along with wording:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=How+much+weight+can+Mac+Mini+hold
The rounded plastic base, and port section of the back, are not solid billet metal
and so would not sustain as heavy weight. And the actual thickness of those areas
which are machined aluminum are not necessarily super strong.
A tippy-effect can and has been noted, when heavy or tall objects have been
in place on top of a newer aluminum Mini, given the rounded base on those
which have access to the components inside. There had been metal stands
or partial case-like designed supports, that can be set above the Mini which
can support large displays and they disperse weight directly to a table.
The older larger form Mini could be more readily set on its side to save space
without as great an incidence of it falling over. As suggested above and by
me earlier in this thread, the idea to place the unit on its side gains space.
And there are several designs. Some are no longer produced, but available.
Given the newer Mini is about 7x7 inch (not including the rounded base) and
the older series was about 6.5x6.5 inch (& had a square bottom) it would be
a toss-up to consider which could actually hold more static weight. If one
were to place a display or other Minis on top, eventually the pile would tip.
Hopefully you'll have some safe experiences should you try new methods in
stacking weight on top of Minis for fun or profit. An old set of free-weights
and bathroom scale could be used in semi-destructive testing processes... đ
Yes, I did a web search before I asked the question. The answers were far too insufficient. Mostly they were, "Buy this stuff I'm selling! I need the money!"
The previous answer Apple gave about the previous mini, didn't say that the mini couldn't hold the weight, but that the airport was located there - which it isn't anymore. So, no airport means its ok now?!
I don't think the circular cover (with the Mac Mini indented on it.) is plastic (2014). The circular opening is interesting because it actually makes the the connection far stronger than if it were square. A very good design if that were what they were after. Although the thinner metal I've seen in take-down did give me some pause. At the same time I'm not planning on putting something as heavy as a thunderbolt display the mini either. (Im limited to a 21.5 inch screen and I hate super glossy when it comes to business computers. There are far better and cheaper screen options than the iMac.) I'm more concerned with the long-term - not the short term. In some ways I guess I was hoping someone in Apple's design team would chime in. I guess the design team would be all made of art-nerds who would be upset that their "artwork" was covered.
Apple Technical support has been no help whatsoever. The first one I called screamed at me for trying to use WPS and didn't seem to understand what it was. They seem rather amateur. The ones I've met at the Apple Store didn't even know the possible uses for an Airport Time Capsule.
The connections and their locations prevent a vertical set up from being useful without constantly tipping over even with the $50+ stands people have been trying to sell me in their responses here. Yes, if all I needed to connect were a power cord, this would not be a problem. But I really need this computer to do stuff. Maybe I should've gotten Lenovo? There are many aspects of the Mac operating system I like, but their hardware seems to be toyish art the way many people are talking here. Anyone with Hackintosh experience?
Trying to put something as large a Mac (Not-really) Mini on the vesa mount of my monitor would definitely tip over my monitor, causing both to crash to the floor.
I see absolutely no "Tipover" with the Mac Mini 2014. I guess If you stacked a lot of them together, this would be a problem.
The location of the wi-fi + BT antennae module in the Late 2012 & more recent
models appears to imply by design the case may also act to aid the antennae;
in my i7 MINI 2.3GHz quad-core Late 2012 model (server w/ dual HDDs) the
antennae is on the bottom next to user-accessible RAM chips. While an object
on top or over the Mini may affect the antennae reception, the small base under
the unit could make such weight on top unstable. A hollow-square under the
outer edge, of durable strong material, could level-off the bottom, to be flat.
While my Mini is used with a 20-inch aluminum Apple Cinema display that does
not weigh ' a lot ' I would not set it on top, even though the foot of this display is
nearly the same size as the top of the 7.7x7.7 x1.4" Mini. Tipping the display
to adjust sight angle, or a minor earthquake of known local magnitude could be
the cause of a tumble. However the idea to use one of these on its side and if
needed make a simple holder with a piece of wood and a few finishing nails
with plastic tubing over them, could suffice to keep the item on edge, cheaply.
However much or little additional funds one has to throw at a solution, or time
taken from other questionable uses of it, solutions do not require much of either.
There had also been a method suggested on how to mount these on a wall, or
use industrial velcro to assist a home-made bracket & hold a Mini elsewhere.
In any event...
Good luck & happy computing! đ
For those who land here and are looking for space saving ideas, this is one I was considering --
I have never seen that and I doubt that Apple ever gave a value. Good luck in finding a definite/correct value
There's only one way to find out. Pile more and more weight onto it until it's squashed.
How much weight can a Mac Mini hold?