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iDevice Sync Query - IOS Photos & iCloud Photo Library over filling ipad iphone storage - what happens next?

Device Sync Query - IOS Photos & iCloud Photo Library fills ipad iphone storage - what happens next?


Quick question, when you select IOS Photo / IiCloud storage (photos are optimised etc) what happens when ipad / iphone storage is full and you now need to add new apps, photos etc? In my case I have 3 * 64gb ipads & 2 * 128 gb iphone but these are all filling up with photos since enabling IOS Photo & iCloud Photo Library (as all of my photos on each device are now copbined on every device as well as the cloud). This has become a problem as when I try to sync my idevice I get the device full warning (and I am assuming I now need to delete apps / videos if I want to sync or make more space for new photos etc). As far as I can tell once you enable IOS Photos and iCloud all photos will upload at original resolution and download at idevice resolution and there is no way to select / control the photos you want to keep on phone (eg if you delete photo on phone it will now delete the original on cloud).


Couple of questions / Suggestions:

- Will IOS Photos on IOS device automatically lower resolution of pics or use thumbnails for old photos that are already in icloud to ensure that there is space on device for new photos, apps videos music etc. Eg will old photos that have already been uploaded in icloud be replaced by new apps videos music etc (not sure that the IOS Sync or iCloud currently does this)

- Is there away to limit control or limit the number of IOS photos that sync to each idevice (eg by starring photos)? I had a look and can not see away to select photos you want to keep or remove (without deleting them on cloud). As per above I am hoping that the IOS sync and icloud systems are smart enough to replace Photos that have already upgraded to cloud with a lower quality / thumbnail to make more more room for new photos and apps (but not clear if this occurs)

- If this is a problem now what happens once the new PHOTOS launches for OS Desktop eg will it add in all our photos from iphoto to the icloud then to the idevice as part of the OS PHOTOS UPGRADE. I have 15-30 gb of photos in IPHOTO that are now backing up to icloud, there needs to be away to only select starred photos or albums or every photo try to download to my iphone (which will kill my storage). There also needs to be away to keep photos on idevice (for those times when you do not have internet and can not download from iCloud to iDevice

Apologies if I have missed something obvious and welcome any thoughts &answers.

If there is no solution then Apple needs to look at this and highlight it as a risk to customers who switch as this is being sold as a way to minimise your device storage but can lead to to customers using up more storage for photos on ipad iphone as a result of switch to IOS PHOTOS &

iCloud Photo Library


Posted on Mar 1, 2015 8:43 PM

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Posted on Mar 2, 2015 5:32 AM

That is an excellent and very well thought out question. Unfortunately, besides information that you very well informed of already that change of resolution will come automatically, there is nothing to add.

If you desire any additional features you d want to feedback apple here

www.apple.com/feedback.

It is a black hole so manage your expectations.

If I might add my opinion - any feature that you would expect for consumer to have more control is not easily integrated by apple. I am sure you can guess why.

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Mar 2, 2015 5:32 AM in response to MrHk

That is an excellent and very well thought out question. Unfortunately, besides information that you very well informed of already that change of resolution will come automatically, there is nothing to add.

If you desire any additional features you d want to feedback apple here

www.apple.com/feedback.

It is a black hole so manage your expectations.

If I might add my opinion - any feature that you would expect for consumer to have more control is not easily integrated by apple. I am sure you can guess why.

Apr 16, 2015 10:13 AM in response to MrHk

This is a great question and I hope answered by Apple in some way.

I too have recently enabled iCloud photo sync and having over 200 gigs of pictures to upload, I do not see why I can not limited the size to store on my limited 64gig iPhone 6.


I don't want the free space filled by pictures, if I could limit it to say the last 30 days or maybe 5-10gigs, that would leave space on my Phone to take new pictures and videos, but what is the point of filling it up with iCloud photos?


I am still in the process of uploading my entire library, currently 6 gigs of the 200 and its slow going, but if this does end up filling my phone to the point I can't take new pictures or videos, I may just need to turn it off until Apply has a better way to manage it all.


I know its a new feature so I hope they have something in place soon. Again, great post!

Apr 18, 2015 4:07 AM in response to MrHk

Same problem here. I have uploaded 300GB of photos to iCloud and now my devices are downloading my entire library and, even though optimised settings are on, the devices are now reporting storage full all the time. This is preventing use of the phone as a navigation device as it won't open as there is no free space. There really should be some way to reserve only a portion of the space on the device or reserve a minimum free space requirement. The only work around seems to be to reduce the source library by exporting and removing them from the library - but this seems to defeat the whole object of the exercise.

Apr 19, 2015 3:49 PM in response to MrHk

Ive got exactly the same problem, there has to be a way to limit a very large library not to fill up a 16 gig IPhone, even with the optimise photos feature on. I bought 200 gigs of apple server space based on the premise that you can upload your entire library and then have thumbnails on my IPhone. Either im reading the advertising incorrectly or this is an issue that needs to be addressed quickly. I really like the idea but if the implementation works in this manner Im going back to doing it the old way - I dont want my IPhone completely full of pictures and i cant do anything else because its either full or over capacity

Apr 20, 2015 2:56 AM in response to dannywar

Things are not as dire as they might seem at first glance. My 66GB iPhoto Library became a 40GB iCloud Photo Library (~11K photos, ~300 videos) and only uses 2.2GB on my iPad and 2.4GB on my iPhone. Scaling that experience, a 64GB/128GB iOS device should be able to easily handle a 300GB iPhoto library. My iPad and iPhone are 32GB devices and I expect them to be livable through at least 30-40K of photos.


16GB devices have always been problematic for space even before iCloud Photo Library so I'd expect anybody with a 16GB device and more than a few thousand photos is not going to be able to use iCloud Photo Library with it. They will have to use iCloud Photo Streaming to get photos to iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Photo Sharing or iTunes syncing to get a subset of photos back to the device. Not a great solution but workable. However, it wrecks one of the best features for me which is using my iPad to edit the photos I take on my iPhone.


The part that worries me is the automatic space management routine. The problem it creates is that I might want to add a movie, but there won't be enough space, and my only option will be to reset iCloud Photo Library on the device to get back to all thumbnails on it to see if that gets me the space I need. I've already had to do it a couple of times with iTunes Match and it's not fun. It all depends on how aggressive Photo Library will be in trimming off full-size photos/videos and Apple appears to be leaving it a black box at this point. It would at least be nice to know an estimate of the minimum size so I know how much space I can recapture.

May 3, 2015 7:06 PM in response to William Tanner

I have a 64Gb iPhone 6, and it's clogged up with all this syncing. Trouble is, I have a HUGE photo library on my Mac, and I don't want the whole thing syncing across all devices. And since most of my photos on my Mac come from the iPhone, I've got thousands of duplicates. Really isn't a great solution... might just switch over to using DropBox.

Jul 22, 2015 5:55 PM in response to MrHk

It has been over 4 months since this was posted, and Apple has still not come out with a solution for this.


I agree with all of the things that I have been in this thread. I want my iPhone to sync its pictures and videos to iCloud without having to downloading all of the pictures/videos on iCloud to my iPhone.


Hope this is solved soon.

Oct 4, 2015 1:33 AM in response to MrHk

HI y'all

IF you want one library ... As I do for simplicity

Now you have Photos for OSX. on your Mac, I'm sure you have found a solution. One method is as follows, hope this makes sense if you have any improvements to make it simpler I'd be delighted if you post them here.


Back up first, time machine and external HDD for preference.

create new folder named 201n eg 2015 or appropriate year

within this folder create 12 folders named 1Jan, 2 Feb, 3 mar ....order by name

open system Photos,all photos, use search for say January 2015 cmd+a select all, file export, decide if your saving originals - favourite I'd say then export to the appropriate month folder.

Delete that month from your system Photos library.

Open Photos preferences deselect importing: copy to library so that 'imported' files will be referenced and import that month from the appropriate folder.

Only photos copied into the system library are uploaded to iCloud, referenced photos are not uploaded.

SO now there's space on your iDevice with your most recent photos available and all your photos in one library on the Mac.

or simpler run two libraries or have two ID and put all photos in the cloud from Mac using the ID you don't use for iDevice

It's likely your Mac is going to run out of space in the same way unless memory gets bigger and faster than your photo library grows so big external lightning 3 SSD required!

LIve long and prosper.

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