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Q: Consolidating itunes once iTunes is moved to an external drive

Hi there,

 

I am hoping somebody will be able to advise me. I followed the instructions on this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbGmDJtQTGQ


to move my iTunes folder to an external hard drive so that I can free up space on my internal hard drive. I have also told iTunes in Preferences to look for the iTunes Media Folder location on my external hard drive:

 

Volumes/MacBook Air Backup Drive/iTunes/iTunes Media

 

iTunes now works when my external drive is connected to my laptop (and doesn't work if my external drive is *not* connected); all that is fine. I have now saved space on my internal drive by deleting the iTunes folder that was on my internal hard drive.

 

However, my Q is:

 

When I consolidate files in "Organise Library"-does this get saved onto my *internal* hard drive, and if yes, does it take up space? Does it matter that my iTunes library is now located on my *external* hard drive?

 

I'm not sure how consolidating will work now that my library is on my external drive, or does this not matter? Can I consolidate on my external hard drive or am I missing the point as to what consolidating means/does?

 

Many thanks!

MacBook Air, OS X Yosemite (10.10.2)

Posted on Mar 6, 2015 7:09 AM

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  • by turingtest2,Helpful

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 6, 2015 9:50 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 9:50 AM in response to Psych13

    Use File > Library > Organize Library > Consolidate File, just to make sure the library isn't connected to anything outside of /Volumes/MacBook Air Backup Drive/iTunes/iTunes Media. You can rename the top level iTunes Media folder as, say, Not iTunes Media just to make sure that doesn't break anything, but it will be a unneeded copy which you can delete when you are ready.

     

    You can also delete /Volumes/MacBook Air Backup Drive/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml. It is a legacy from when your library was in the standard location.

     

    What you should do is backup the whole of the iTunes folder to another hard drive for security. Might be best to do this before getting rid of Not iTunes Media.

     

    tt2

  • by Psych13,

    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 9:52 AM in response to hhgttg27
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    Mar 6, 2015 9:52 AM in response to hhgttg27

    Hhg.....


    My structure seems to follow what you are saying:


    Volumes/MacBook Air Backup Drive/iTunes/iTunes Media


    My iTunes Media folder is contained in the same folder in which the iTunes database file (iTunes Library.itl) is stored. However, I also have another  iTunes Media folder, sitting right below the iTunes folder: see both of my screen shots below: you can see my layout. Is it a problem for me to have it setup this way (I didn't do this intentionally).....I don't even know what it all means: All I know is that I have an iTunes Media folder contained in the same folder as iTunes and then another iTunes Media folder below iTunes.

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    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 9:54 AM in response to Psych13
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    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 9:55 AM in response to Psych13
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  • by Psych13,

    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 9:56 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 9:56 AM in response to Psych13

    The main difference between both iTunes Media folders is that the one contained within iTunes also has a Downloads folder.

  • by hhgttg27,Helpful

    hhgttg27 hhgttg27 Mar 6, 2015 9:57 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 9:57 AM in response to Psych13

    The key question is whether you have any actual media in //device/iTunes Media that is not in //device/iTunes/iTunes Media, or vice versa.  In other words, are the folders simply duplicates in terms of their content, or is the media in your library split across the two sets of folders.

     

    The actual folders that you'll find under iTunes Media will vary based on the media kinds present in your library.  In my case the subfolders are:

    iTunes Media subfolders.jpg

    which just shows where you have mobile apps and ringtones (obviously an iPhone user!) I have audiobooks, podcasts and TV shows.  These folders are created automatically by iTunes when you first add media of a particular kind.  A new, "empty" iTunes library only has the Automatically Add to iTunes folder under iTunes Media.

     

    The Downloads folder that you mention is a "holding area" that's used to store podcasts and iTunes Store purchases (I think, its been a while since I bought any!), while they are downloading - once complete, the downloaded files will be moved to the final location based on media type.  Under normal circumstances the Downloads folder will be empty - just like the Automatically Add to iTunes folder which plays a somewhat similar role for adding new media using files already stored on your computer or being downloaded by third-party applications that can be configured to add media to iTunes.

  • by Psych13,

    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 10:07 AM in response to hhgttg27
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:07 AM in response to hhgttg27

    Thanks a million for this: I've checked by going into "Get Info" for both iTunes Media folders, and the iTunes Media folder that is contained within iTunes folder is more up to date in that the "date modified" was more recent; and there are 5-10 more "items" in there.

     

    With this knowledge, what does that mean ?

  • by Psych13,

    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 10:10 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:10 AM in response to turingtest2

    Are you sure about:

     

    "You can also delete /Volumes/MacBook Air Backup Drive/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml. It is a legacy from when your library was in the standard location".

     

    This iTunes Music Library.xml file sits on my external hard drive; not on my internal one.

  • by Psych13,

    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 10:13 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:13 AM in response to turingtest2

    Turing:

     

    When you say:


    "You can rename the top level iTunes Media folder as, say, Not iTunes Media just to make sure that doesn't break anything, but it will be a unneeded copy which you can delete when you are ready", are you referring to this one: and if yes, can I just delete it rather than rename it?


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  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 6, 2015 10:15 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:15 AM in response to Psych13

    Psych13 wrote:

     

    Thanks a million for this: I've checked by going into "Get Info" for both iTunes Media folders, and the iTunes Media folder that is contained within iTunes folder is more up to date in that the "date modified" was more recent; and there are 5-10 more "items" in there.

     

    With this knowledge, what does that mean ?

     

    That confirms that one is duplicate of the other, and that you are using the one that is in the correct relationship to the library file.

     

    tt2

  • by Psych13,

    Psych13 Psych13 Mar 6, 2015 10:16 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:16 AM in response to Psych13

    Please can you remind me how to backup my iTunes library? I've backed my iPhone up today but I presume that's not the same thing?

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 6, 2015 10:19 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:19 AM in response to Psych13

    Psych13 wrote:

     

    Are you sure about:

     

    "You can also delete /Volumes/MacBook Air Backup Drive/iTunes/iTunes Music Library.xml. It is a legacy from when your library was in the standard location".

     

    This iTunes Music Library.xml file sits on my external hard drive; not on my internal one.

     

    Yes, when the library is in the "standard" location of User's Music/iTunes the xml file is called iTunes Music Library.xml. When the library is anywhere else it takes the same name as the .itl file so normally become iTunes Library.xml. At a guess you copied over the library files to the external including the older one which is now no longer being updated. You can delete both if you like. iTunes will recreate the one it wants to. iTunes doesn't use these .xml files, they are provided for other software to interrogate the library even if iTunes isn't running at the time.

     

    tt2

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 6, 2015 10:21 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:21 AM in response to Psych13

    Psych13 wrote:

     

    Turing:

     

    When you say:


    "You can rename the top level iTunes Media folder as, say, Not iTunes Media just to make sure that doesn't break anything, but it will be a unneeded copy which you can delete when you are ready", are you referring to this one: and if yes, can I just delete it rather than rename it?

     

    You can, I'd just be more cautious. Always better to test your assumptions in a non-destructive fashion if possible, but I think we have estatblish that you library isn't using that folder.

     

    tt2

  • by hhgttg27,

    hhgttg27 hhgttg27 Mar 6, 2015 10:24 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:24 AM in response to Psych13

    Simply deleting runs the risk that you could be getting rid of some valid media files that are in the //device/iTunes Media folders.  Renaming, as tt2 suggests, will allow you to confirm that everything's working fine with all media located in //device/iTunes/iTunes Media.  Once you've verified that, you can delete the renamed //device/iTunes Media folder and all its contents.

     

    "This iTunes Music Library.xml file sits on my external hard drive; not on my internal one."

     

    In general it is safe to delete any iTunes Library.xml or iTunes Music Library.xml file, as these are outputs from iTunes and will be recreated when you run it.

  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Mar 6, 2015 10:26 AM in response to Psych13
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    Mar 6, 2015 10:26 AM in response to Psych13

    Psych13 wrote:

     

    Please can you remind me how to backup my iTunes library? I've backed my iPhone up today but I presume that's not the same thing?

     

    No, backing up the library is a separate operation. You should so this in case the entire volume MacBook Air Backup Drive should fail, since this is going to be the only copy of your library.

     

    In essence just copy the folder onto another drive. In practice updating such a backup by hand can be tedious and wastes time. A tool such as Synkron should be able to make a backup copy of the iTunes folder and then efficiently mirror later changes when you want to update your library backup.

     

    tt2

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