About the little scrollbar arrows...

To the best of my knowledge (and experience) Snow Leopard was the last version with scroll bar arrows.

They're gone. I haven't missed them. Scrolling with the trackpad or mouse makes them totally unnecessary.

BlahBlahBlahBlahBlahBlah wrote:

...is there any way to get these back in Mac OS X Yosemite? Or do I need to downgrade all the way to Snow Leopard just get these seemingly trivial but for me necessary things back?

n.b. I am not talking about the scrollbar visibility which can be turned on or off in preferences, but the small arrows at the top and bottom of each scrollbar.

Examples where this is necessary:

Navigating a large spreadsheet and editing a formula: using the little arrows allows moving up or down a line and you can then click on the visible cells to build up an equation.

While it is possible to move around a spreadsheet using the keyboard arrows, this also changes the insertion point and so your edit is lost.

In Photoshop: working with hundreds of layers, the little arrows allow fine control over the layers list.

In Dreamweaver Adobe have now addressed the issue by creating their own scrollbars within the application which DO have the little arrows, is this the intention for every OS X application to have different scrollbars with subtly different behaviour?

Apple could have left at least an the option to display these in Preferences and I have no idea why they decided to remove them altogether.

Does anyone know how or if there's a possibility of getting the arrows back? or if theres a workaround people have that allows working on documents larger in size than a few pages?

There is a previous thread on this in the old Lion forum, so this has been a problem for some time now, I suspect its a major reason for people still running Snow Lepoard:

About the little scrollbar arrows...

Gone 4 years ago, sorry. I would highly doubt that they will ever return now. You can send feedback to Apple, but if they haven't returned them in four years then I would doubt you will see them again.

Pete

Bumping this back up. Apple needs to fix this.

Apple does not monitor these forums for "Bump" requests. You are ONLY talking to fellow Apple users, and there is nothing we can do with your Bump.

Send your concerns to:

<http://www.apple.com/feedback>

Thanks Bob, but unmonitored and unseen are two different things. Of course, I have sent this to apple, and now I'm sending it here and elsewhere I can get the conversation going. It's the squeaky wheel theory. Besides, it really does need fixed.

No news yet Scotty. Seems there is nothing to fix. Most likely very few have complained while the many many millions of users in the last four years have either adapted or have never seen them anyway. But call back next year, they may be making a special version for you.

Cheers

Pete