Jaggy Text

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Jaggy Text

Okay, I'm sure this is a common one, but when I type text (in the font and size I want) into DVDSP it appears rather jaggy, whether I look in the Canvas, in Simulation, or on a burned DVD. Where a character has thin verticals (eg 'n') one leg of the 'n' appears two pixels wide, and the other one pixel wide.

The same font at the same size looks fine in iDVD. Any suggestions?

Martin S Taylor

iMac G5, 1.8GHz PowerPC, 2GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Oct 12, 2006 2:35 AM

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Answer 1

Silal

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Oct 12, 2006 8:18 AM in response to Martin S Taylor

Martin:

What size and type are you using?
Do you refer to the button texts or just basic text written in menu?

Check in DVDSP Menu Preferences your Final Rendering settings. Do you have Software or Hardware based setting? Try changing it and make a new build (not necesary to burn) and test the VIDEO_TS folder in DVD Player playing at 100% NOT full screen, to check if you notice any change.

Alberto

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Answer 2

Oct 18, 2006 3:30 AM in response to Silal

What size and type are you using?

Various. I've tried in Helvetica 24pt which should be fairly standard, and while it's not as bad as others it's still not really acceptable and nowhere near as good as iDVD.

Do you refer to the button texts or just basic text
written in menu?

Both

Check in DVDSP Menu Preferences your Final
Rendering settings. Do you have Software or Hardware
based setting? Try changing it and make a new build
(not necesary to burn) and test the VIDEO_TS folder
in DVD Player playing at 100% NOT full screen,
to check if you notice any change.

I tried it both ways, and it's still not good. When I use the default screen size setting of DVD player (slightly smaller than the display DVD SP uses) it isn't too bad, but at "Normal Size" (slightly larger than DVD SP) I still get vertical lines on u's and n's of different thicknesses.

Martin

iMac G5, 1.8GHz PowerPC, 2GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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Answer 3

Oct 18, 2006 4:50 AM in response to Martin S Taylor

Maybe this is the problem ?

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=604241&start=0&tstart=0

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Answer 4

Oct 18, 2006 5:32 AM in response to Ian Shepherd

I don't think so, since that thread deals with a problem which only appears on a TV, and doesn't appear when using DVD Player. My problem is worse when using DVD player. Also the guys in that thread are discussing a problem specific to 4.1, whereas I'm using 4.0.3.

(Is there a way of playing a VIDEO_TS folder onto a TV using a camcorder? I'm reluctant to burn test disks to experiment how the text appears on a TV.)

Martin

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Answer 5

Silal

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Oct 18, 2006 6:45 AM in response to Martin S Taylor

Martin:

I'm using same software than you without a problem; I feel we are missing something! We cannot see what exact problem are you experiencing but could be a way to di it. You could download VLC Player and use its capture feature to capture a frame of your DVD and post it, to let us see the problematic text.

Alberto

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Answer 6

Drew13

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Oct 18, 2006 6:49 PM in response to Martin S Taylor

(Is there a way of playing a VIDEO_TS folder onto a TV using a camcorder? I'm reluctant to burn test disks to experiment how the text appears on a TV.)

Usually that is the best way ultimately, you can try monitoring on a monitor via a card to the computer, but it is not quite the same as stepping off to a DVD Player and television.

FWIW you may want to find a good supplier of decent DVDs at a reasonable price. Not sure how high the costs are in the UK, but almost a non-issue at this point on this side of the Atlantic. Tayo Yuden can be had for about .25-.30 without any effort really. May help reduce your aggrevation a bit. Maybe Hal, Jake or others from that side know of good spots for you. Not trying to throw money away, more that it may be worth your time

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