Appletalk

I just changed from a DSL to cable modem (i.e. changed ISPs). Reinitialized the Airport extreme. All three makes share the internet wirelessly just fine. However, I cannot get the Appletalk network to appear. All computers have Appletalk active for the Airport. All have file sharing on -- they just do not appear. I have not been able to find any explanation for this. Any suggestions?

iBook G4 1.33, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Oct 17, 2006 6:28 AM

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Oct 17, 2006 12:28 PM in response to BDAqua

The Magiccolor 2210 supposedly has both Ethernet and USB connectivity. If you connect the printer to your network with an Ethernet cable, then you don't need AppleTalk. If the printer were an AppleTalk printer it would be very old and use an old Apple serial cable that would not be usable on your computers without an adapter.

Oct 17, 2006 1:17 PM in response to Eric Cote

EtherTalk was simply an Apple name for Ethernet over AppleTalk. Straight AppleTalk was a networking protocol (Apple Personal Network or APN) implemented on LocalTalk ports using AppleTalk adaptors and ordinary telephone line. The LocalTalk port was a mini-DIN 8 connector not RS-422. The AppleTalk adapters had two telephone jacks on one end and a standard Apple mini-DIN 8 serial connector on the other. The network was also referred to as PhoneNet. On later models Apple implemented Ethernet over AppleTalk (EtherTalk) that used standard Ethernet connectors and line. You switched between EtherTalk and AppleTalk using the AppleTalk control panel (as all this was implemented in Mac OS.) I believe this originated with OS 7.x when Apple adopted the new TCP/IP stack software. Least this is my recollection.

Oct 17, 2006 2:11 PM in response to BDAqua

Isn't the 5400n a network printer supporting Ethernet? If so there's no reason to have AppleTalk turned on. I have three network printers - Tektronix 560, Lexmark 510n, and HP 4M Plus. All have network cards. The Tektronix and the HP have network cards that support TCP (Ethernet) and AppleTalk. Both have TCP turned on and AppleTalk disabled. The Lexmark is straight TCP (Ethernet) and supports Rendevouz (nee BonJour.) I never use AppleTalk. Some years ago I had an HP-4ML that was a LocalTalk printer. I had to connect it to my network using an AsanteTalk device that enabled connecting a serial LocalTalk printer to an Ethernet network. That required using AppleTalk.

Oct 17, 2006 2:19 PM in response to BDAqua

I just checked out the 5400n specs and it's got a standard Ethernet port. Perhaps the network card supports both AppleTalk and Ethernet TCP/IP. If that's the case set the printer to use Ethernet (or TCP/IP) and configure it to use DHCP if it's supported. Otherwise assign a fixed IP address that's within the DHCP range of your network router. If the printer supports Rendevouz (nee Bonjour) it may even show up on that protocol in the Printer Setup Utility. Configure the printer driver in the Printer Setup Utility to be an LPR/LPD printer if it doesn't support Rendevouz. You can then turn off AppleTalk.

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