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Where are photo file names?

I've "titled" many, many photos in iPhoto by changing the filename (e.g. "DSC_2254" --> "On vacation in Hawaii"), but there appears to be no option in Photos to show the filename. So none of my "titles" appear. Am I missing something?

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014), OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 7:56 AM

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Apr 9, 2015 8:33 AM in response to léonie

I am not referring to photo "Titles" -- I am referring to photo filenames. In iPhoto, when "Titles" was selected under the View menu, the camera-assigned filenames would appear below the photos. You could then edit the "titles" as seen below:

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In Photos, these "Titles" do not appear, even if View -> Metadata -> Titles is selected. The only way to see them is to in the "Info" panel, as you mentioned above. This makes the hours and hours of time I have spent over the years renaming photos' filenames to a more meaningful "title" in iPhoto totally wasted! You can't see the "titles" (i.e., renamed filenames) in any of the list displays in Photos -- and to make matter worse, since Photos does not include the renamed filenames created in iPhoto, you cannot use that information in searching for the photos!

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Apr 9, 2015 8:38 AM in response to thedatadude

Just to clarify -- it appears that when Photos imports images from iPhoto, it totally ignores any filename renaming that you have done. It simply does not import that information! So if you had a thousand photos in iPhoto that you "titled" by changing "IMG_2345" to "Fred in NYC", etc. -- all that work is completely lost because Photos completely ignores that information when it imports the images from iPhoto.

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Apr 9, 2015 10:19 AM in response to thedatadude

I have your exact same problem. Very frustrating. Perhaps the Apple software engineers could have foreseen this problem. Overall, Photos 1.0 is disappointing in many respects. Sadly, when you go to the Apple Feedback site, there is no option to give feedback on Photos. iPhoto is still listed on that page. Again, shouldn't someone have thought to update that page knowing users are going to have a lot of feedback about Photos 1.0.


If anyone comes up with a solution, please let us know. Here's a link to discussion of my question.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6984161

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Apr 11, 2015 5:41 PM in response to TheNakedApe

That is an idea.


I experimented a bit, and with Apple Script we could make it a bit simpler, directly in Photos: This will save the installation of exiftool and the necessity to export the files. This way the lossless workflow will be preserved.


Create an Automator action, that executes an Apple Script to change the titles to the filename, if the title is empty:


The Apple Script:


on run {input, parameters}

tell application "Photos"

activate

set imageSel to (get selection)

if imageSel is {} then

error "Please select an image."

else

repeat with im in imageSel

set title to the name of im

if not (exists (title)) then

set the name of im to the filename of im

end if

end repeat

end if

end tell

return input

end run

Launch Automator, create a new service, and drag a "Run Apple Script" action into the workflow.

Copy and paste the text above into the "Run Apple Script" action to replace the default text in the action.

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Save this workflow with a suitable name. It will be installed in the services.


  • Now launch Photos and select a few test images.
  • Open the "Photos Menu > Services".
  • The service should be shown in the menu - I saved my version as "filename2title".
  • Select the service to let it run. When you click the selected photos again, the titles should change.


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After the Automator action completed:

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Apr 12, 2015 2:25 PM in response to thedatadude

Couldn't find a solution within Photos, so I resorted to AppleScript:


Here's a really quick and dirty way to do it... I'm sure this could be improved to do proper interpreting of the filename and have proper error conditions:

tell application "Photos" activate set myalbum to the last import album try set itemlist to selection on error errStr number errorNumber return errorstr end try repeat with currentitem in itemlist set currentfile to the filename of currentitem set the name of the currentitem to currentfile as text end repeat end tell return count itemlist

Just open up Script Editor, enter that code into a new item, select the items you want named in Photos, and then run the script.


To do even better, I created a smart album that only contains un-named items. It appears I can't do thousands of photos in one pass, but a few hundred at a time works well.

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Apr 9, 2015 8:14 AM in response to thedatadude

Also note that once you have enabled Titles in the View>Metadata menu (or with the command-shift-T keyboard shortcut) you can add a title to a photo that doesn't have one by hovering the pointer over the white space below it. That will reveal in grey its "untitled' name. Click on that & type in the title right there.

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Apr 9, 2015 8:33 AM in response to léonie

I am not referring to photo "Titles" -- I am referring to photo filenames. In iPhoto, when "Titles" was selected under the View menu, the camera-assigned filenames would appear below the photos. You could then edit the "titles" as seen below:

User uploaded file

In Photos, these "Titles" do not appear, even if View -> Metadata -> Titles is selected. The only way to see them is to in the "Info" panel, as you mentioned above. This makes the hours and hours of time I have spent over the years renaming photos' filenames to a more meaningful "title" in iPhoto totally wasted! You can't see the "titles" (i.e., renamed filenames) in any of the list displays in Photos -- and to make matter worse, since Photos does not include the renamed filenames created in iPhoto, you cannot use that information in searching for the photos!

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Apr 9, 2015 8:38 AM in response to thedatadude

Just to clarify -- it appears that when Photos imports images from iPhoto, it totally ignores any filename renaming that you have done. It simply does not import that information! So if you had a thousand photos in iPhoto that you "titled" by changing "IMG_2345" to "Fred in NYC", etc. -- all that work is completely lost because Photos completely ignores that information when it imports the images from iPhoto.

Apr 9, 2015 9:21 AM in response to thedatadude

Photos does import the filename -- it is visible in the Info window -- but the problem is basically that a filename of a photo doesn't really have anything to do with its title. (The title field is metadata stored within the photo file itself, while the filename is stored in the file system.) iPhoto displays the file name (less its extension) if the title metadata field is empty & supports searching on it; Photos does neither.


So what you need is a practical way to add the filename to the title field of the photo if you are to continue using your organizational scheme in the Photos app. This should be doable using Applescript with either iPhoto (before importing the photos into Photos.app) or afterwards with the Applescript support built into Photos.app. However, I do not have the time right now to write such a script myself (& I'm too rusty on Applescript to do it quickly even if I did) but I think someone will begin publishing scripts for this & similar needs in the days & weeks to come.


If you can't wait for that, it might be worth asking for help in the ASC Applescript forum, or in any of the other Applescript-oriented support sites on the web.


EDIT: I said that Photos doesn't support searching on a file name. I was wrong about that -- it does -- but that isn't of much help with this issue.

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Apr 9, 2015 10:19 AM in response to thedatadude

I have your exact same problem. Very frustrating. Perhaps the Apple software engineers could have foreseen this problem. Overall, Photos 1.0 is disappointing in many respects. Sadly, when you go to the Apple Feedback site, there is no option to give feedback on Photos. iPhoto is still listed on that page. Again, shouldn't someone have thought to update that page knowing users are going to have a lot of feedback about Photos 1.0.


If anyone comes up with a solution, please let us know. Here's a link to discussion of my question.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6984161

Apr 9, 2015 10:40 AM in response to thedatadude

I am not referring to photo "Titles" -- I am referring to photo filenames. In iPhoto, when "Titles" was selected under the View menu, the camera-assigned filenames would appear below the photos. You could then edit the "titles" as seen below:

And that is what I am seeing in Photos - the iPhoto titles below the thumbnails:


In iPhoto, before migrating the library: The default version name remained in iPhoto's Title field:

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And in Photos - the same name below the thumbnails, after migrating the iPhoto Library, clearly visible in the "Moments" view.

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Toggling "View > Metadata > Titles" turns this on and off.

Apr 9, 2015 11:32 AM in response to léonie

Some of us are experiencing a situation where Toggling "View > Metadata > Titles does not solve the problem. Yes, it's a necessary step to make titles below photos visible, but, even with that, many photo titles are not appearing. Some do and some don't. In my case, any photo title from iPhoto that had a suffix such as .jpg, .tif, etc. DOES NOT APPEAR under the photo regardless of what is checked under Metadata.


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Notice that "Add a Title" appears. The title (filename) was "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" in iPhoto and it appeared under the photograph. In Photos 1.0, however, it does not appear. One has to copy "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" and the paste it into the "Add a Title" field. Can you imagine doing this for thousands of photos?

Apr 9, 2015 11:50 AM in response to Washington Apples

Notice that "Add a Title" appears. The title (filename) was "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" in iPhoto and it appeared under the photograph. In Photos 1.0, however, it does not appear. One has to copy "Ann in Tennessee Shirt" and the paste it into the "Add a Title" field. Can you imagine doing this for thousands of photos?

That is clearly a bug.

The titles are supposed to be transferred, even if .jpg is part of the title.


Please file a bug report. Either use the feedback form or - more involved - the bug reporter: Detailed and Effective Bug Reporting | Apple Support Communities

Apr 9, 2015 1:32 PM in response to léonie

Léonie,


As a further clarification, because this has huge implications for those of us that have "titled" thousands of photos in iPhoto, which are not carried over to the new Photos app:


Here is an example of a photo to which I edited the filename (D7K_2242) in iPhoto:

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Note that the full title (which is actually the edited filename) appears in iPhoto.


Here is the same photo as it appears in Photos in the Moments view:

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Here are my Metadata settings in Photos:

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So..

--- Even when "titles" are turned on under Metadata

--- and when in the Moments view in Photos

The filename edited in iPhoto (="title") does not appear in Photos.


I have discovered one way to remedy this, but it is NOT a practical remedy when you have thousands of "titled" photos in iPhoto with lots of albums, etc.

--- In iPhoto: Select a photo, then: File -> Edit -> Export, with these settings:

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Any other settings for Kind (e.g., Original) will result in the title not carried over to Photos. Here's how the above export looks in Photos:

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As I said above, this is not a reasonable solution because among other things you can only export a file as a "jpeg" and not as an "Original", which was a "raw" file. So I guess off I go to report this as a "bug" to Apple.

Apr 9, 2015 3:45 PM in response to stephenfromencinitas

I have to retract my JPEG vs. RAW issue with titles. This is what happens when you try to generalize your first view of a 50,000+ image library conversion.


BUT, I do have an issue where Photos has assigned the filename to the title field for some of my images while leaving it blank for others. If I look at the same images in Aperture the Title field in the General info data is blank in both cases.

Where are photo file names?

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