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Q: Where are photo file names?

I've "titled" many, many photos in iPhoto by changing the filename (e.g. "DSC_2254" --> "On vacation in Hawaii"), but there appears to be no option in Photos to show the filename. So none of my "titles" appear. Am I missing something?

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2014), OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 7:56 AM

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  • by turingtest2,

    turingtest2 turingtest2 May 4, 2015 3:12 PM in response to R C-R
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    May 4, 2015 3:12 PM in response to R C-R

    I'd read up on case sensitivity too and both theory and practice (in my case) said I didn't need to worry about it, but perhaps it would be better if I made it explicit. As for substring searches I'd thought about it, but I've assumed until I know otherwise that there isn't a potential for a clash within the relatively limited set of valid image entensions. I've yet to explore more deeply but in my vbScripts I sometimes wrap the values with vertical bars, e.g. "|.jpg|.mov|.png|.tif|" and then add them to the search term. VBS doesn't have anything that looks as efficient if element is in list, on the other hand I've found that AppleScript doesn't seem to like some nested clauses which I would normally use to avoid having to declare variables to hold intermediate results. I shall find out what works and what doesn't.

     

    tt2

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 4, 2015 4:16 PM in response to turingtest2
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    May 4, 2015 4:16 PM in response to turingtest2

    turingtest2 wrote:

    VBS doesn't have anything that looks as efficient if element is in list, on the other hand I've found that AppleScript doesn't seem to like some nested clauses which I would normally use to avoid having to declare variables to hold intermediate results.

    Handling lists seems to me to be one of Applescript's most powerful features, but I have admit I often find them hard to work with, particularly when lists of lists are involved.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 4, 2015 4:24 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 4, 2015 4:24 PM in response to Old Toad

    Old Toad wrote:

    I noticed that the second line I've been working with is "Set to include"  which keeps .cr2 in the title.  I removed that line, keeping .cr2 in the line above, and got the following error message.

    I assume you mean "set include to" & not "set to include" but since the include variable is used later in the script (in the if (offset of ext in include) > 0 and not ext = postfix then statement) the script will error out with that message whenever it tries to execute it.

     

    That much I understand. The rest of it, not so much.

  • by JaneTeis,

    JaneTeis JaneTeis May 5, 2015 4:01 PM in response to R C-R
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    May 5, 2015 4:01 PM in response to R C-R

    This is too complicated for me. I don't do any applescript or programming. Why can't Apple just let us show the FILENAME under each photo? I don't want to have to type some "Add a Title" to every photo.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 5, 2015 6:10 PM in response to JaneTeis
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    May 5, 2015 6:10 PM in response to JaneTeis

    JaneTeis wrote:

    This is too complicated for me. I don't do any applescript or programming. Why can't Apple just let us show the FILENAME under each photo? I don't want to have to type some "Add a Title" to every photo.

    Only Apple can say why Apple made the change but the reality is that filenames & titles are two very different things, & iPhoto (& thus Apple) never did users any favors by obscuring that difference.

  • by Allison Sheridan,

    Allison Sheridan Allison Sheridan May 13, 2015 2:46 PM in response to léonie
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    May 13, 2015 2:46 PM in response to léonie

    léonie - very cool what you've done here for us! I can use the script you've written to change the descriptions, and I can use the script you've written to change the titles to the file names.  Both work great.  However, they're just shy of what I want.  Let's say I go to Germany for a vacation and on day one I go to Hamburg. I would like to batch change the titles to all say either Hamburg, or even better sequential titles of 01_Hamburg, 02_Hamburg.

     

    I've tried modifying your script just to change the title to the input text but I must be messing up the syntax. Here's one version I've tried (that does nothing at all!)

     

    on run {input, parameters}

      tell application "Photos"

      activate

      set imageSel to (get selection)

      if imageSel is {} then

      error "Please select an image."

      else

      repeat with im in imageSel

      set title to the name of im

      if not (exists (title)) then

      set the name of im to the filename of im

      end if

      end repeat

      end if

      end tell

    end run

     

    Appreciate any help you can give me finding my mistake. If you want to help me kick it across the goal line and add that index number too that would be swell!

     

    thanks!

    Allison Sheridan

    NosillaCast Mac Podcast at http://podfeet.com

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 13, 2015 3:27 PM in response to Allison Sheridan
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    May 13, 2015 3:27 PM in response to Allison Sheridan

    Your script does nothing because you set the title to the name of the selected image ("im" in the script repeat loop) & then tested for it not existing in the "if not (exists (title)) then" step. Because of that, it will always exist (even if the name is the empty text string "") & the name won't be changed.

     

    You might try léonie's Batch Changes in Photos for Mac:  Change the titles to a Given String Automator service -- it looks like it does what you want without the need for any modifications.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 13, 2015 4:19 PM in response to Allison Sheridan
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    May 13, 2015 4:19 PM in response to Allison Sheridan
    Let's say I go to Germany for a vacation and on day one I go to Hamburg. I would like to batch change the titles to all say either Hamburg, or even better sequential titles of 01_Hamburg, 02_Hamburg.

     

    Try this script:

    on run {input, parameters}

      -- batch change the title to the input, © léonie, version 1.0.1

     

      set n_digits to 2 -- how many digits for the appended number

      set answer to display dialog "Select the number of digits for the appended numbers (0 .. 10).  Selecting '0' will suppress the leading zeros." buttons {"o.k"} default answer n_digits

     

    -- For 1-9 photos use 2.  For 10 to 99 photos use 3 and for 100 or more photos use 4.

     

      set n_digits_text to the (text returned of answer)

      set n_digits to n_digits_text as number

     

     

     

      tell application "Photos"

      activate

      set counter to 1

      set imageSel to (get selection) -- get selected images

      if imageSel is {} then

      error "Please select some images."

      else

      repeat with im in imageSel

      set ntext to the counter as text

      repeat while (the length of ntext < n_digits) -- add leading zeros

      set ntext to "0" & ntext

      end repeat

     

     

      tell im

      set the name to input & "-" & ntext as text

      -- set the title to the input plus formatted number

      set counter to counter + 1

      end tell

      end repeat

      end if

      end tell

      return "Done. The titles of " & (length of imageSel) & " photos have been changed."

    end run

    and use it in this Automator workflow application:

    Automator001.jpg

    The first window you'll get is this where you'll put in the title

    Finder003.jpg

    The next window is this which sets the number of digits for the sequential number:

    Finder002.jpg

     

    Which gives you this for the titles:

    Photos001.jpg

    OTsig.png

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R May 13, 2015 4:49 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 13, 2015 4:49 PM in response to Old Toad

    That script could also easily be modified to put the numbers first in the title & use an underscore instead of a dash as a separator. Just change this line:

    set the name to input & "-" & ntext as text

    to this:

    set the name to (ntext as text) & "_" & input

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 13, 2015 5:09 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 13, 2015 5:09 PM in response to Old Toad

    I prefer the dashes because they were easier to use when having to do it manually. 

     

    I've added that workflow to the Photos User Tips with a link to download the app if the visitor doesn't want to create it themselves.

  • by Allison Sheridan,

    Allison Sheridan Allison Sheridan May 16, 2015 10:43 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 16, 2015 10:43 AM in response to Old Toad

    When I run the Title script it queries me for what name I want and it queries for how many digits.  However it sends a generic error to the screen and says, “want me to show you the workflow?”

     

    There’s only 2 steps here - one is to get the images, two is to rename them, so I tried adding a speech thing in between the two steps to see where it was failing and it does do the speech.  I tried looking at the details as the script ran and all it does is give me a red x error, with no details. 


    I feel like one of those people who simply write back, "it didn't work" but I can't figure out how to diagnose this.  Note that the change description script DOES run properly.


    ?

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 16, 2015 11:32 AM in response to Allison Sheridan
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    May 16, 2015 11:32 AM in response to Allison Sheridan

    Did you build the app yourself or download it from the User Tip?

  • by Jay Deitch,

    Jay Deitch Jay Deitch May 16, 2015 11:40 AM in response to Allison Sheridan
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    May 16, 2015 11:40 AM in response to Allison Sheridan

    Do you have "All Photos" selected under Albums in the sidebar instead of "Photos" at the very top?  I can't get the scripts to work if "Photos" is selected, but does if the photos are selected in "All Photos."

     

    Jay

  • by Allison Sheridan,

    Allison Sheridan Allison Sheridan May 16, 2015 10:05 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 16, 2015 10:05 PM in response to Old Toad

    Old Toad - downloaded from the user tip.

     

    Jay Deitch - YOU GOT IT!  I had selected Photos and it didn't run. Just selected All Photos and it DID run.  Apple is driving me bonkers with their naming conventions lately.

     

    thank you all so much! Especially léonie for writing the scripts. I think I'm going to have a gift to bring back to the thread.  A friend of mine wrote a script for me that does something cool.  I'm going to leave you with a tease for now because she's off on her boat in Alaska and I can't ask her permission yet to publicize it (but she'll say yes for sure!)

     

    Happy dance,

    Allison

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 17, 2015 10:52 AM in response to Allison Sheridan
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    May 17, 2015 10:52 AM in response to Allison Sheridan

    The scripts will also run from albums.

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