Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.


Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?


Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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May 14, 2015 1:12 PM in response to rogelio2

This is my experience exactly. iPhotos in the Finders apps section has a "No Entry" across it. Trying to update it in the Apps Store, I am told it is not available in the US.

Apple does no longer sell iPhoto, so it is neither available at the AppStore for purchase or for updating, but you can still reinstall iPhoto, provided it is associated with your Apple ID at the App Store. To be able to reinstall you need to fool the App Store and remove iphoto from the Spotlight index by moving it to the Trash. You may need to disconnect all drives with a backup as well. Then restart the Mac and try to reinstall from the Purchases tab as Old Toad described.

May 16, 2015 5:05 AM in response to mystwillow

I am not sure if anyone has brought this up yet, BUT this is what fixed my problem. You can create custom albums with any parameter you wish. For example I created an album called May 2015 and it automatically pulled all photos that were and will be taken between May 1 and 31st. Have a look and hope this helps someone, I know it did me.


http://www.macrumors.com/how-to/add-organize-images-yosemite-photos/

May 21, 2015 3:07 PM in response to mystwillow

I felt exactly the same way. But I resolved the problem this way-

Your iPhoto events were automatically imported into photos, so they remain there.

What you need to do with your new photographs, is to create an 'album' with them. It's the same thing as creating an 'event' in iPhoto. What you do is select the photos you want to include in the album, then click on the + symbol to the upper right of the photos, and the box will appear to create the album. You can even add photos to your iPhoto events this way. A drop down list will appear with all your events listed.

You can even keep the iPhoto icon on your desktop and continue to create events, although they won't be imported into Photos. And then create the same events as albums on your Photos program. I use the same name for the events and albums. You can drag your albums into the correct order that you want. And something that you can do in albums but not events, is drag your photos within an album into the order you want.

I think the exasperation we all feel is the frustration of having everything organized the way we like it, and then a new program comes along and it takes us awhile to figure it out. I haven't yet figured out what's better about Photos (except the dragging of photos within an album). But I imagine after I get familiar with it, I'll see the improvements.

May 21, 2015 3:13 PM in response to galesviento

I don't remember if I've posted this in this topic previously (not going to go thru 17 pages to find out) so here goes:

Moments in Photos are the new Events, i.e. groupings of photos sorted by date taken.


When the iPhoto Library was first migrated to Photos there was a folder created in the sidebar titled iPhoto Events and all migrated iPhoto Events (which are now Moments) are represented by an album in that folder. To open the sidebar if it's not already open use the Option+Command+S key combination.


There's a way to simulate events in Photos.

When new photos are imported into the Photos library go to the Last Import smart album, select all the photos and use the File New Album menu option or use the key combination Command+N. Name it as desired. It will appear just above the iPhoto Events folder where you can drag it into the iPhoto Events folder


When you click on the iPhoto Events folder you'll get a simulated iPhoto Events window.

The downside to the simulation is that the Albums/Events can only be sorted automatically by Title. But they can also be sorted manually, either in the sidebar or in the folder's window at the right.


Ask Apple for more sorting options in Photos via https://www.apple.com/feedback/photos.html.

May 26, 2015 7:11 AM in response to dean44

After reverting to iPhotos has any of you guys checked the number of pics in the iPhoto Library confronted with the number of pics on another iOs device? (i.e. iPhone?) I've found pics on my iPhone> Photo> Album> iPhoto Events that are not on my iPhoto Library on my Mac and vice versa!! 😕 I'm totally confused!!! What a **** is happening?!?!?

May 26, 2015 1:15 PM in response to iMakrap

iMakrap wrote:


Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough or I didn't understand all of this iPhoto, Photo, iCloud, Streaming Photo, mess! My question is: If I have iCloud Library activated on my iPhone, my iPhone>Photo>Album>iPhoto Events shouldn't be the same as my iPhoto Events Library on my Mac?!?

and the answer is


there is no reason that it would or should contain the same photos as any IOS device

iPhoto does not use iCloud Photo Library - it uses a local iphoto library and you went back to the last one you had so it has exactly what was there then - you can move photos form IOS devices to it using MyPhotoStream or iTunes sync - it does not use iCloud Photo Library in any way


again


when you go back to iPhoto you are using the library you opened - nothing has been changed in it [it is the exact same as when you last used it] and there is no reason that it would or should contain the same photos as any IOS device

LN

May 26, 2015 3:03 PM in response to mystwillow

My problem seems to be different. When I "upgraded", Apple installed Photos, and SEEMS to have wiped my iPhoto library. I suddenly have all this hard-drive space, no iPhoto library shows up on search, and Photos insisted on creating a new library when I wanted to import latest pix from my SLR. I think Apple has screwed me royally, unless I'm missing something here.

May 26, 2015 3:41 PM in response to Zipkin

Unless you did an erase and install the iPhoto application should still be in your Applications folder. As for the iPhoto Library unless you were using it somewhere else it should be in your Pictures folder.


I take it you didn't upgrade to Yosemite yourself, right? You should still have a copy of your library and the iPhoto application from the backup copy of your hard drive that you made before taking it in for upgrading. Restore both the application and library from that backup.

May 28, 2015 8:45 AM in response to mystwillow

I just went through a similar frustrating experience.


Once you have migrated an iPhoto library to iphotos, you can still open the original iPhoto library with iPhoto. However, if you then want to recreate the iPhotos library, it says that the iPhoto library has already been migrated and won't open it. I have not experimented to see if simply changing the filename back allow this to happen. Instead I pulled my last backup from Time Machine and kept both versions around.

Why did I do this? Well, after having been told by an Apple advisor that iPhotos would not change the library, I learned that he was wrong in the worst way. I have a library of some 233GB, and had only 60GB or so left on disk. iPhotos still went ahead and created library of some 220GB or so (I believe it was incomplete which is why I recreated it, but with backups in place). Meanwhile, my system ground to a near halt. In fact, using "info" in Finder on my HD, it claimed I had 611GB on a 499GB drive. Interesting eh?


I had to clear all my library files off onto an external Thunderbolt drive and do the file manipulations there. Only to find when finally opening iPhotos that it is a poor second cousin to iPhoto in terms of ability to sort photos and events. EG there's no "info" sidebar available any more - you have to look at events/pictures individually and either right click select get info, or in the picture viewer, click on the "i" icon top right. Nowhere near as smooth to use.


In addition, an iPhoto feature that is lost is the ability to drag a cursor across an event and see a fast scan of all the pictures, and the date range of the event.


I will persevere and hope I'm missing something, but for now I remain very frustrated, with over a dozen old iPhoto libraries to deal with. I too will use iPhoto for as long as I can.

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