Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

simonj_1 wrote:

I just imported my migrated Photos library back into iPhoto.

And now I have my library back in iPhoto.

Does that solve your issue?

You must NEVER import a library - it does not work and creates a massive mess

LN

This is just like when they changed iTunes!

Why mess with it if it works?

Ugg

If I delete the photos.library.photolibrary

before I open the new iphoto

will that mess things up?

I have not hit the continue or OK button when I first launch iphoto....what is the easiest way to get back to the original iphoto?

Thanks!

What 'Okay' button is that?

With all due respect,

Kappy wrote:

I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

This is all you should have posted. It helps to just get to the point.

Yes, you delete any Photos library you want. If you want to use iPhoto and its library then so be it. Keep in mind that if you did not make a backup of your iPhoto Library before it was imported into Photos, then the library you still have needs Photos even if you use iPhoto. The migrated iPhotos Library can only be used with the data already there. You cannot add to or change existing photos.

With all due respect, I think you are the one who has missed the point. The above comment is not merely a request for advice as to how to try to minimize the damage caused by replacing iPhoto with Photos. It is a detailed description of the deficiencies of Photos when compared to iPhoto, and of how it destroys years of prior work and effort of many Mac users if and when forced to switch. Losing functions going forward in new pictures taken is bad enough, but taking existing function and organization out of past work is inexcusable. Heavy long time users of iPhotos need to be warned in advance, and that comment was an effective warning!

This is a tech support forum, do you actually have a question, or is this just a rant. You may send your opinion on Photo's 'deficiencies to Apple at this link. Apple.com/feedback

Nathan Silverman wrote:

With all due respect,

Kappy wrote:

I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

This is all you should have posted. It helps to just get to the point.

Yes, you delete any Photos library you want. If you want to use iPhoto and its library then so be it. Keep in mind that if you did not make a backup of your iPhoto Library before it was imported into Photos, then the library you still have needs Photos even if you use iPhoto. The migrated iPhotos Library can only be used with the data already there. You cannot add to or change existing photos.

With all due respect, I think you are the one who has missed the point. The above comment is not merely a request for advice as to how to try to minimize the damage caused by replacing iPhoto with Photos. It is a detailed description of the deficiencies of Photos when compared to iPhoto, and of how it destroys years of prior work and effort of many Mac users if and when forced to switch. Losing functions going forward in new pictures taken is bad enough, but taking existing function and organization out of past work is inexcusable. Heavy long time users of iPhotos need to be warned in advance, and that comment was an effective warning!

Have you considered that Photos may be a far better product than iPhoto given time? Look back on these forums of the opinion of iPhotos when it was first released. I would rather think that Photos will be far superior to iPhoto when iPhotos no longer is supported on future OSXs. But then again, some are still screaming for the return of Claris and AppleWorks as well as Scroll Bar Arrows. Society today seems to demand perfection on a first release of software, something I have never seen in Apple or Microsoft or anything from a third party developer.

Cheers

Pete

Csound1 wrote:

This is a tech support forum, do you actually have a question, or is this just a rant. You may send your opinion on Photo's 'deficiencies to Apple at this link. Apple.com/feedback

I understand that this is a tech support forum, but tech support forums are not limited to questions alone. If former users of iPhoto lose extensive past work they previously devoted to the organizational structure of their photos, I think it is reasonable to expect that one can provide support to those users by forewarning them of what may occur, as well as suggesting preventative measures and/or possible workarounds should they choose to "upgrade" to the successor program, or at some point lose the opportunity to stick with iPhoto.

There are many different personalities and methods of expression on all forums, including support forums, and there is no one "right way" for participants to express themselves when seeking or providing support. We are all individuals. Schooling other participants as to how to express themselves in conformity with your way does not really contribute constructively to the discussion, nor is it "supportive" of the users who come here. I hope you will in the future try to be more welcoming to participation. Otherwise, some Mac users who come here for help may feel bullied and reluctant to return here for help. Consider also that, in some instances, support can merely consist of hand-holding and reassurance. Taunts like "… do you actually have a question, or is this just a rant…" don't really comport with the spirit of support.

Nathan Silverman wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

This is a tech support forum, do you actually have a question, or is this just a rant. You may send your opinion on Photo's 'deficiencies to Apple at this link. Apple.com/feedback

I understand that this is a tech support forum, but tech support forums are not limited to questions alone. If former users of iPhoto lose extensive past work they previously devoted to the organizational structure of their photos, I think it is reasonable to expect that one can provide support to those users by forewarning them of what may occur, as well as suggesting preventative measures and/or possible workarounds should they choose to "upgrade" to the successor program, or at some point lose the opportunity to stick with iPhoto.

There are many different personalities and methods of expression on all forums, including support forums, and there is no one "right way" for participants to express themselves when seeking or providing support. We are all individuals. Schooling other participants as to how to express themselves in conformity with your way does not really contribute constructively to the discussion, nor is it "supportive" of the users who come here. I hope you will in the future try to be more welcoming to participation. Otherwise, some Mac users who come here for help may feel bullied and reluctant to return here for help. Consider also that, in some instances, support can merely consist of hand-holding and reassurance. Taunts like "… do you actually have a question, or is this just a rant…" don't really comport with the spirit of support.

No one looses anything if they have the common sense to backup their data properly. So I don't understand your ranting.

Cheers

Pete

Nathan Silverman wrote:

There are many different personalities and methods of expression on all forums, including support forums, and there is no one "right way" for participants to express themselves when seeking or providing support.

Actually, there is a "right way" for participants to express themselves on this forum, and it is explained in the TOU. Here is a snippet:

Submissions

1. Stay on topic. Apple Support Communities is here to help people use Apple products and technologies more effectively. Unless otherwise noted, do not add Submissions about nontechnical topics, including:
   1. Speculations or rumors about unannounced products.
   2. Discussions of Apple policies or procedures or speculation on Apple decisions.
2. Be polite. Everyone should feel comfortable reading Submissions and participating in discussions. Apple will not tolerate flames or other inappropriate statements, material, or links. Most often, a "flame" is simply a statement that is taunting and thus arbitrarily inflammatory. However, this also includes those which are libelous, defamatory, indecent, harmful, harassing, intimidating, threatening, hateful, objectionable, discriminatory, abusive, vulgar, obscene, pornographic, sexually explicit, or offensive in a sexual, racial, cultural, or ethnic context.
3. Post constructive comments and questions. Unless otherwise noted, your Submission should either be a technical support question or a technical support answer. Constructive feedback about product features is welcome as well. If your Submission contains the phrase "I'm sorry for the rant, but…" you are likely in violation of this policy.

Here is a link to the TOU:

Apple Support Communities Use Agreement

Cheers,

GB

Nathan Silverman wrote:

I understand that this is a tech support forum, but tech support forums are not limited to questions alone.

This one is, and agreed to the terms when you joined up. Now stick to them.

Nathan Silverman wrote:

I think it is reasonable to expect that one can provide support to those users by forewarning them of what may occur, as well as suggesting preventative measures and/or possible workarounds should they choose to "upgrade" to the successor program, or at some point lose the opportunity to stick with iPhoto.

Have you never heard of Backup? hard to believe that, more likely is that you have heard of Backup but of some reason did not think your pictures worth the effort.

Take some responsibility for your actions, millions upgraded without issues, what did you do?

Csound1 wrote:

Nathan Silverman wrote:

I understand that this is a tech support forum, but tech support forums are not limited to questions alone.

This one is, and agreed to the terms when you joined up. Now stick to them.

Nathan Silverman wrote:

I think it is reasonable to expect that one can provide support to those users by forewarning them of what may occur, as well as suggesting preventative measures and/or possible workarounds should they choose to "upgrade" to the successor program, or at some point lose the opportunity to stick with iPhoto.

Have you never heard of Backup? hard to believe that, more likely is that you have heard of Backup but of some reason did not think your pictures worth the effort.

Take some responsibility for your actions, millions upgraded without issues, what did you do?

1) If you will read my original post, you will see that I was defending the original poster and the simple concept that users forewarning other users of the described effects of switching from iPhoto to Photos is a meritorious form of user-to-user support and she/he should not have been condemned for describing the consequences in detail;

2) In fact, it was as result of my having read that poster's comments before upgrading that I was able to avoid his/her anguish, and so I am still using iPhoto as long as it may still be available, and the new Photos is still lying dormant in my Applications folder. I am reasonably confident that I am not the only iPhotos user who thus benefited from warning posts like his/hers. Does that answer your question as to what I did, and as to the support benefit to posts like that poster's, of which there are now many, many similar posts?

3) And yes, I am a 79 year old "belts-and-suspenders" type of guy, and have for years had and still have Time Machine and CrashPlan running continuously and Carbon Copy Cloner (previously SuperDuper) running weekly on schedule, but if "restoring from backup" is your idea of support advice, support forums would be substantially irrelevant now, wouldn't they? Why bother to alert people to problems and help solve them, when you can just smugly put up a sign like "Don't annoy us with whatever your problem is - just restore from backup!"

If you had a backup why did you not restore it, after all, that is what it is for. Instead you come here and complain. Good luck restoring your backup, you need no help with that I assume.

Csound1 wrote:

If you had a backup why did you not restore it, after all, that is what it is for. Instead you come here and complain. Good luck restoring your backup, you need no help with that I assume.

You are not reading my posts very carefully, perhaps because you are so anxious to pointlessly attack and counter-attack. I said that, thanks to the original poster's comments and many similar ones here, I did not have the problem and I am still using iPhotos for now and hence did not need to resort to my backups.

Csound1 wrote:

Have you never heard of Backup? hard to believe that, more likely is that you have heard of Backup but of some reason did not think your pictures worth the effort.

Take some responsibility for your actions, millions upgraded without issues, what did you do?

As Gail from Maine reminded us:

"Submissions

1. …
2. Be polite. Everyone should feel comfortable reading Submissions and participating in discussions. Apple will not tolerate flames or other inappropriate statements, material, or links. Most often, a "flame" is simply a statement that is taunting and thus arbitrarily inflammatory.…"

Have a nice day.