Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.


Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?


Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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Oct 31, 2015 8:21 AM in response to léonie

Good advice.


My iPhoto library is over 16GB. Like I said, my laptop has been giving my messages about not enough space so i have been deleting anything i do not need, just to be able to keep adding images. So every little bit helps at this point.


One last question and I think I will be done.


I want my library to be able to be seen by all laptop users. Right now the library is in my user picture folder. When I go to "get info" it shows that "everyone has read permissions. Which makes me think they could view the library, just not make changes.. which is fine. However in dealing with this situation, such permission changes did not help me view the library when it was I the laptop's shared folder. Was that just because I needed repair issues? Or should I move the files back to Shared or some both place or some other configuration?

Oct 31, 2015 9:14 AM in response to Mara Jade's Father

I want my library to be able to be seen by all laptop users.

That is only possible, if the library is on an external drive, not if it is stored on the system drive. Photos cannot open the library without being able to write to it. It will try to write to the library, as soon as you open the library. Everytime another user opens the library for browsing you will have to run a repair on the library, because opening will change the file ownership for some files. You can only avoid this by keeping the library on an external drive, where you can enable the "ignore ownership on this volume" flag. That is not possible on the system drive, because there the ownership cannot be ignored.

See this guide - the same will work for Photos libraries: iPhoto: Sharing libraries among multiple users

Nov 1, 2015 7:55 AM in response to mystwillow

I am so mad that I was forced to change my operating system to Yosemite and thus to Photos from iPhoto. I couldn't get a book uploaded to print and they told me this was the only way to get my book printed. I got the book but a whole lot of problems that I didn't want. I miss the ease of using iPhoto and like so many others I miss Events and being able to organize my photos and edit them so much easier. Everything was better!! I cuss at Photos every time I have to use it. Why do they have to keep changing things that work?!

Nov 2, 2015 10:36 AM in response to Csound1

Well, I wasn't FORCED! I just had to change my operating system to Yosimite and use Photos to get my book to upload into the store for printing. I talked to many guys in Apple support who said there was a problem with that issue in iPhoto and changing was the only way to go. I am not a savvy computer person and I'm afraid to try the suggested fixes for using iPhoto now. I just wish they had left it alone. It was so easy!!

Nov 2, 2015 3:01 PM in response to dnh1969

There are no "fixes" in order to use iPhoto. You are simply making sure you have the latest copy of iPhoto on your computer so you can use it - that's it:


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If you were happier using iPhoto, then you should go on using it. Your iPhoto Library is still there - you just need an app to be able to use it. So, you just need to get your iPhoto app back on your Mac.


Cheers,


GB

Nov 15, 2015 12:37 PM in response to mystwillow

I also am reverting to iPhoto for all the reasons mentioned, but I have a few hints that might help:


A great app called iPhoto Library Manager. This lets you divide all your iPhotos into separate libraries in any manner you wish. I do it by trips and by years. That way, iPhoto is speedy fast.


A great app called Photosweeper. Lets you compare photos face to face or in groups to delete near (or far) duplicates or similars. You set the perameters like close time, bitmap or histogram. A huge timesaver.


To me, those are the kind of upgrades I was hoping for within Photos. Very disappointed.


iPhotos has turned many of us into avid photographers because it has given us an easy way to edit and organize our digital photos. I have little interest in sharing my photos via social media. I find Photos difficult to use on my iPhone because one cannot modify the narrow way it works.


Apple is dealing with two completely different photographer markets. AND they have eliminated Aperture. How can Apple possibly think Photos will satisfy those users. I hope they recognize that or they will lose me

Nov 15, 2015 12:49 PM in response to urbananchorite

There is no Apple replacement for Aperture, Photos is the successor to iPhoto, same market. Apple are out of the high end photographic market.


Photos is a free app, never intended to address the high end market. It's editing facilities are already ahead of iPhoto, not so its organizational functions.


But judging Photos after it's been in existence for a few months is a waste of time, do you remember what iPhoto was like a few months after it debuted?

Nov 15, 2015 1:10 PM in response to Csound1

I have been a loyal Apple user and owner since 1985. Right now sitting in my chair I can lay eyes on nine Apple products in this room, and that's not all of it I own. I always try a new Apple software or product. But what appears to going on here goes beyond what you said -- Apple is out of the high-end market. Aperture may have been that but iPhotos isn't -- it's a typical, elegant Mac any-user program.

Of course I will watch Photos evolve but clearly it is intended to head in another direction than suits me. Otherwise they would have just upgraded iPhoto, or released Photos as an expanded iPhoto to service more modern needs or agreed to continue to service iPhotos.

I migrated one of my iPhoto libraries to Photos when it first came out, being sure all the right preferences and options were chosen, but half my metadata was lost. Nonetheless, I was going to start using Photos Jan 1 with a new Library but, after seeing all the on-line complaints and reviews to see if maybe I was just missing something, believe I will wait.

My concern is that Apple is dumbing down its product and abandoning many of us long-time loyal customers for the selfie crowd.

Nov 15, 2015 1:36 PM in response to Csound1

The migration was not smooth, as I indicated but I was looking online to see if I missed something. I always start looking at a problem by assuming it is me, not the software.


Organization is everything to me because I heavily edit, share and slideshow my photos.



As I mentioned, the duplicate searching through Photosweeper and the organization of separate libraries for separate purposes through iPhoto Library

Manager are convenient tools that I now get from third parties software. I have not checked yet to see if they have issued a Photos-compatible version but it would help make me the transition if they do. Possible, but preparing to have to buy those again.


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