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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 17, 2015 10:53 AM in response to Richard3030
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    Apr 17, 2015 10:53 AM in response to Richard3030

    Richard3030 wrote:

     

    Thanks for the helpful explanation, Csound1. Like many, I have a giant Photos library on my Mac. Since I I don't want my phone to have that giant library, I would turn off iCloud Photo Library on my phone and leave the Photo Stream on. The question is, how do I move only some photos from the big library to Photos on my phone?

    Plug your iPhone into iTunes and choose any you want.

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 17, 2015 12:12 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 17, 2015 12:12 PM in response to Csound1

    1.  I'm not the conversant in this string asserting moral superiority.  Again, if you don't trade with liars, why do you file Federal tax returns?

     

    2.  Fail.  You don't own a device with a Samsung label?  Do you own any Apple devices?

     

    Your judgmental is entirely situational.  I'm not so conflicted.

     

    : - )

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 17, 2015 12:28 PM in response to MrPheasant
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    Apr 17, 2015 12:28 PM in response to MrPheasant

    I have not asserted any 'moral superiority', you are just projecting.

     

    MrPheasant wrote:

     

    1.  Again, if you don't trade with liars, why do you file Federal tax returns?

    Because it is illegal not to.

    MrPheasant wrote:

     

    2.  Fail.  You don't own a device with a Samsung label?  Do you own any Apple devices?

    I do not own any devices with a Samsung label, I do own devices labelled Apple.

     

    And I do get to make my own decisions so good day to you.

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 17, 2015 12:41 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 17, 2015 12:41 PM in response to Csound1

    I know it'll hurt, but you simply must assert your moral principals by trading your iPhone, Mac, Apple TV and other devices with Samsung chips for something from, say, Huwawei or ZTE.

     

    Oh, wait.

     

    ; - )

     

    What would  any normal observer to this exchange conclude from your comments about Dropbox?  Is what's good for the goose really good for the gander?

     

    Drop some coins in the plate on Sunday while you review some flawed principals.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 17, 2015 12:43 PM in response to MrPheasant
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    Apr 17, 2015 12:43 PM in response to MrPheasant

    MrPheasant wrote:

     

    I know it'll hurt,

    Won't affect me at all, I plan on ignoring you entirely, but thanks for the concern.

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 17, 2015 12:55 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 17, 2015 12:55 PM in response to Csound1

    Sleep tight, if you can.

     

    ; - )

  • by cat320,

    cat320 cat320 Apr 17, 2015 1:26 PM in response to MrPheasant
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    Apr 17, 2015 1:26 PM in response to MrPheasant

    I am shocked at the way some of you have treated high quality advice given to you from the likes of Old Toad, Terence Devlin and Csound1. I have at various time over the past 10 years + sought answers to problems my wife has had with iPhoto. I have received prompt high quality answers back to me in Australia from Old Toad and from Terence Devlin. They obviously give up most of their time to help the rest of us. The are not employed by Apple, they are absolute experts on iPhoto and helping is apparently their hobby.

    If you do not want to risk losing or corrupting your photos, then listen to them and take their advice. They should not have to waste their time explaining in detail why, to some of you sceptics, and none of you should be sarcastic, or even nasty to them.

    When someone answers your query look at the number of points under their names to assess just how many people they have assisted , and that will sort out for you whose advice you can trust and follow .

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 17, 2015 1:45 PM in response to cat320
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    Apr 17, 2015 1:45 PM in response to cat320

    I want to be sure I follow your logic.

     

    You read a suggestion posited as a great solution.  You try it.  It fails.  We're talking MediaPro1.

     

    In response to another comment, you extoll a solution that works, not just for you but for millions of customers who use it to address a plethora of objectives. We're talking Dropbox.  But someone savages your suggestion in a way that impugns your character for advocating it.

     

    You have choices.

     

    You could countenance bad advice and moral posturing by saying nothing.  This would give legs to questionable advice and an absurd outlook.  People who didn't see that MediaPro1 fails to address an intended solution would waste their time, and possibly their money, following bad advice.  Forget the intent of the person recommending the product.  That isn't the issue.

     

    If your aim is to help others, you would respond to bad solutions and interdict the calumny.

     

    Not much of a choice.  Don't be a doormat.

  • by CoopJohn B,

    CoopJohn B CoopJohn B Apr 17, 2015 1:51 PM in response to MrPheasant
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    Apr 17, 2015 1:51 PM in response to MrPheasant

    Please leave what was once a helpful thread until you trolled it!

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 17, 2015 1:54 PM in response to CoopJohn B
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    Apr 17, 2015 1:54 PM in response to CoopJohn B

    Not trolling.  Seeking solutions, like you.

     

    Let bad attitudes and advice pass if you like.

     

    I won't.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 17, 2015 2:48 PM in response to MrPheasant
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    Apr 17, 2015 2:48 PM in response to MrPheasant

    MrPheasant wrote:

     

    Not trolling.

     

    People can judge that for themselves.

  • by Richard3030,

    Richard3030 Richard3030 Apr 17, 2015 4:30 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 17, 2015 4:30 PM in response to Csound1

    >Plug your iPhone into iTunes and choose any you want.

     

    But, but, I thought iCloud is going to solve all of my problems. Plug your iPhone into a computer? I can't believe what I'm reading. How early 21st century!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 17, 2015 4:33 PM in response to Richard3030
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    Apr 17, 2015 4:33 PM in response to Richard3030

    When you get down to individual selections the old way is the simplest, but if you prefer complex methods have at it with iCloud.

  • by CoopJohn B,

    CoopJohn B CoopJohn B Apr 18, 2015 3:37 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Apr 18, 2015 3:37 PM in response to mystwillow

    So, my brand new MBA arrived yesterday loaded w/ OSX 10.10.2. After migrating my data I opened iPhoto and voila everything was there as it should be. I updated to 10.10.3 and wham, the program is disabled. Naturally I called Apple as I had called for support after the 10.10.3 update came out but before the machine arrived. They guaranteed that iPhoto would would work. Unfortunately, the version in the image even on new machines is an old one. I have an iMac and another MBA that both function in the 10.10.3 world. All I had to do was put the icon back in the dock (blowing it out of the dock I see as very heavy handed on Apple's part). So, I deleted the iPhoto application from my brand new machine and replaced it from the most up to date version that was on my old MBA. Btw, at the same time I dragged over iWeb because when my father died 6 years ago I built a website as a tribute. When Apple discontinued that application I lost all of the blog portion that many people had contributed to. Sadly I didn't know that the blog isn't part of the "domaine" and lost all of that content, but I digress. iWeb works on 10.10.3, at least to display the website contents.So, many applications may work on 10.10.3 if you migrate a working version of it.

     

    Apple will drop iPhoto in time and so I'll try to figure out Photos but at the same time we need to bombard them with feature requests. My personal issue is that there are only two ways to sort "iPhoto events", by name - (nonsense) or by date ascending, ie. oldest to newest. I have 392 events ordering 27,000 photos and now I have to scroll to the bottom of the page to worth with the newest files.

     

    Sorry for the lengthy epistle, just trying to help.

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 18, 2015 6:41 PM in response to CoopJohn B
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    Apr 18, 2015 6:41 PM in response to CoopJohn B

    Coop -

     

    Some of us heeded Apple's helpful admonition, well in advance of pulling iWeb, to migrate our material.  I'm sorry you missed the memo.  Apple's sin here is that it didn't provide similar advance notice that iPhoto file structures wouldn't migrate to Photo.  Photos won't import 75% of my images because it can't find metadata that iPhoto uses without a problem.

     

    But I digress.  It's useless to bash Apple in these pages since management monitors it solely to make sure we're all behaving.  ; - )  It isn't heeding a thing we want them to know.

     

    Therefore, in the interest of being helpful -

     

    Apple has released an iPhoto patch without telling anyone.  True.  If you haven't downloaded it, do so ASAP.  It won't solve your 'Photo' problem or mine. But iPhoto works better with the patch and continues to serve my needs without bothering with Photo.  My new Apple TV finds iPhoto albums just fine, for instance.  Photo?  Persona non grata.

     

    MrP

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