There are steps to take with Photos,

1. Your iPhoto Library has to provide data to migrate (pictures etc) to the Photo Library and then import it (longer if the photos are on an external drive, usually)

2. Optionally it has to prepare and upload the library to the iCloud Photo library, Upload prep and batch indexing happens here.

3. It has to upload the library, index and display it on the web server, at the meagre upload rate of most consumer connections it won't take forever, but it will seem like it.

Where in that sequence (which can take days or weeks even) are you.

Please note that the info provided during this process is useless, it is always far behind reality.

Note also that you have lost nothing but time, your iPhoto Library is intact and can be opened with iPhoto if you wish to check.

You need to know how long it should take (minimum duration) then you can start to estimate where you are in the process, this is not sequential, Preparing and Uploading can and do take place consecutively, just not always. Work out your minimum upload rate (either in Mb/s or MB/m, or if you prefer the long view GB/h) by dividing the library size by the upload rate (remember that they use different units, so conversion is required) and you will know if it is even possible that the upload is complete.

What would a reasonable person infer here?

A reasonable person would answer questions when asked, the real question is what do you infer?

CS -

Not only is 'The real question is what do you infer?' grammatically awful, it's tautological.  By accident, I'm sure.

What reasonable questions would you like this reasonable person to answer?

But how about if we return to the question of origin and stop wasting time.  What are we to make of your latest reply to Pete?  Most will find it as incisive as I did:

"Please note that the info provided during this process is useless, it is always far behind reality"

Far out.  My 60s friends would've termed that one hallucinogenic.  Helpful?  Hardly.

MrP

I do not appear be addressing a reasonable person, so the question is moot.

The statement is correct, the progress information provided is useless until the job is complete, but you don't actually care about this issue at all, you're just trolling.

In a nutshell, what is the risk of choosing not to "upgrade" to Photos and continuing to use iPhoto instead?  I know that Apple no longer is supporting iPhoto, but what exactly does that mean?  I normally upgrade to whatever Apple puts out without question...but in this case, I really don't want to lose the organization of my iPhoto Events to the apparently messy world of Photos Albums.  Thanks.

Don -

Excellent point.

It appears we'll all be able to continue using iPhoto for the foreseeable future.  I would hedge the bet, however, by continuing to seek and test alternate photo organizing software.  I'm testing PhotoDirector 6 Ultra currently.  I'll report my success with it, or failure, in a future post.

Everyone also should consider installing the current version of iPhoto Library Manager.  I've been using it for some time.  With IPLM, I didn't miss a beat when Photo issued an illogical reason why it couldn't import most of my 50k +/- image collection.

MrP

CS -

Enjoy your home-grown.  I'm onto more productive discussion.

MrP

I've been tinkering with iPhoto alone and with iPhoto Library Manager for more than three years

That's what my comment was based on, your own words. Frankly I could care less. I've a relative who's been driving for more than 50 years. Means nothing. Still terrifying to travel with him. But your words are the basis of my comment. Was I wrong. Did you write something else? I have no problem admitting I am wrong. I have much experience with it.

The you say I should "Change my bifocals" but you go on to say...

I tried your MediaPro 1 solution, remember?  And I helped others save money & time by sharing my experience - it doesn't work.  This doesn't please you.  I understand.

No I don't remember. I don't recall ever offering that app as a solution for anything. Please, enlighten me. Point out where I did. I wonder if you're confusing me with someone else? How are your bifocals?

You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between the word 'everyone' and the phrase 'everyone who tried to update an out of date library'. I know it's more words, by keep trying. You'll get there.

Remember how we got here: you said

Apple has released an iPhoto patch without telling anyone.

I was merely point out that was inaccurate (and out of date). I even explained why.

You're been an authorized Apple Reseller with a coterie of loyal paying clients, businesses & individuals alike, for decades have you?   So you're entitled, nay 'duty bound', to diss one that is?  What would a reasonable person infer here?

I would expect them to know about the patch. I'm not sure what you want to infer, but you'll do it anyway, so enjoy.

Well praise be to the lord, a miracle.

donhoos66 wrote:

 

In a nutshell, what is the risk of choosing not to "upgrade" to Photos and continuing to use iPhoto instead?

None as of now, but lacking support iPhoto will eventually not do something that you may want it to. Functionally it will stay just as it is.

Note: There's a very confused poster, lacking in knowledge other than how to post, take his posts with a pinch of salt.

I saw the u-tube video "

Mac Tip: How to create a new Photos app library

under "iPhoto" and thought it would be interesting. I need more input and as yet have not done the process proscribed. Do you see a problem with this especially since you mentioned 1 and 3.

1. Your iPhoto Library has to provide data to migrate (pictures etc) to the Photo Library and then import it (longer if the photos are on an external drive, usually)

2. Optionally it has to prepare and upload the library to the iCloud Photo library, Upload prep and batch indexing happens here.

3. It has to upload the library, index and display it on the web server, at the meagre upload rate of most consumer connections it won't take forever, but it will seem like it.

I can't see how I would even want to put 131 GB of photos on the "Cloud."

Let alone have the time...

Terry -

"I have no problem admitting I am wrong.  I have much experience with it."

Apology accepted.

"You seem to be unable to grasp the difference between the word 'everyone' and the phrase 'everyone who tried to update an out of date library.  I know it's more words, by keep trying. You'll get there."

Deflection and bad grammar befit you.  Since your point is AWOL, let’s really review:

You assert that Apple released a patch about which it told 'everyone'.  I asked you to define ‘everyone’.  You couldn’t because 'everyone' doesn’t exist. Should I believe a truth posited as universal when it isn’t?  Shouldn’t someone who issues such assertions be treated skeptically thereafter?  If you can’t wrap gray matter around this, I need to follow your advice and stop ‘by keep trying’ (sic).

“I would expect them to know about the patch. I'm not sure what you want to infer, but you'll do it anyway, so enjoy”

In your version of the truth, my contractor of choice might be expected to know about said patch.  But your version is a fantasy.  ‘Everyone’ wasn’t told.  I had to go find it.  I’m on auto-update with Apple, remember?  I’ve paid my contractor handsomely to tame HDD failures, provide networking support, swap out bad monitors, and lately address iPhoto issues.  On my own, I’ve sampled a batch of 3^rd party programs to try to resolve iPhoto issues.  I’ve spent money and time with Apple Support.

When I finally start getting somewhere, Photo came along.

Let me make you an offer.  Despite considerable evidence to the contrary, perhaps your experience, credentials and acumen best my contractor’s.  Maybe I should buy equipment and advice from you.  Give me your bonafides.  If you have the goods, maybe we’ll set things up.  References are required.

MrP

Pete Kroner wrote:

 

I saw the u-tube video "

 

Mac Tip: How to create a new Photos app library

 

under "iPhoto" and thought it would be interesting. I need more input and as yet have not done the process proscribed. Do you see a problem with this especially since you mentioned 1 and 3.

1. Your iPhoto Library has to provide data to migrate (pictures etc) to the Photo Library and then import it (longer if the photos are on an external drive, usually)

2. Optionally it has to prepare and upload the library to the iCloud Photo library, Upload prep and batch indexing happens here.

3. It has to upload the library, index and display it on the web server, at the meagre upload rate of most consumer connections it won't take forever, but it will seem like it.

I can't see how I would even want to put 131 GB of photos on the "Cloud."

Let alone have the time...

I am lucky enough to actually have fast internet uploads (10Mb/s or 40Mb/s at the office) so I just waited it out. I also have many Macs in use, leaving one of them to deal with this was not an issue. But it still took a long time.

What is the question?

The question would be:  Is this the best or safest way to migrate photos from iPhoto to Photos? 

This would leave me with an iPhoto library and, I think, a Photos Library.

Since Photos does not support my Albums or events I'll actually stay with iPhoto for my work.

How does my Apple TV recognize the folder in which my photos(iPhotos) are installed....presently there all mixed up on the ATV and not usable.