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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 20, 2015 5:57 PM in response to Pete Kroner
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    Apr 20, 2015 5:57 PM in response to Pete Kroner

    The photos are in both libraries (in a way) but the Photos library contains the edits made with Photos and will not show any edits made in iPhoto after Photos was installed and run. There is only one set of photographs but both libraries use them.

     

    (In a way) they are linked by hard links and appear to be in both, but they are not duplicated.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Apr 20, 2015 6:25 PM in response to MTNLUVR
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    Apr 20, 2015 6:25 PM in response to MTNLUVR
    I have zero interest in having pictures in the Cloud or using social media.

     

    Try to understand that Apple's target audience is 10 to 20-year-olds.  That's all they want to do with their images.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Apr 20, 2015 6:40 PM in response to writedeb
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    Apr 20, 2015 6:40 PM in response to writedeb
    I am investing in Adobe Lightroom, which, after watching the extremely helpful tutorials, appears to be the perfect catalogue friendly app. Hefty price, but buying the download off amazon

     

    I would strongly recommend you buy the software on disk. Any time you buy a download you are losing control of your ability to get that version again. With downloads, the software can be eliminated or changed in ways you don't like.

  • by melissafromkalamazoo,

    melissafromkalamazoo melissafromkalamazoo Apr 20, 2015 7:41 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Apr 20, 2015 7:41 PM in response to Ziatron

    Can you post an update to how you like Adobe Lightroom after you've used it?  I'm seriously considering a different software for my 20,000+ pictures and am not really sure where to start looking.

  • by Pete Kroner,

    Pete Kroner Pete Kroner Apr 20, 2015 7:46 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 20, 2015 7:46 PM in response to Csound1

    Thanks but one question...

    It took 9 hours to migrate my original library to another drive and another nine hours to "duplicate" this original library. I see these as separate libraries not the same. This is in response to your comment:

    "There is only one set of photographs but both libraries use them.

     

    (In a way) they are linked by hard links and appear to be in both, but they are not duplicated."

     

    I understand that when changes are made in one it will not show in the other library. BUT I think they are separate libraries.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 20, 2015 7:56 PM in response to Pete Kroner
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    Apr 20, 2015 7:56 PM in response to Pete Kroner

    You can disagree with Apple if you like, but I'm gonna go with their explanation over yours (and you misquoted me, I assume that is because you did't read it correctly, or was it deliberate)

     

    Again

     

    You have 2 libraries but only one set of pictures, which are in both libraries (it's a bit like Schrodingers cat really)

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Apr 21, 2015 12:23 AM in response to MrPheasant
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    Apr 21, 2015 12:23 AM in response to MrPheasant

    You seem to have continuing issues with basic comprehension. Some examples:

     

    1. I asked you to point out where my comments were a misreading of your own words. I see you fail to do so. So, like I said, when you tell me where I misquoted you I will happily apologise. To then believe that you have received an apology demonstrates your lack of comprehension. Trust me, you haven't.

     

    2. I never asserted that Apple told everyone. I asserted that Apple told everyone who tried to update an out of date Library. I know it's hard to get this distinction as to do so would reveal your true nature, but after a while you just can't hide it.

     

    Some other minor points:

     

    3. I note that you no longer make any mention of Media Pro and my supposed recommendation of it. It's just another in a long line.

     

    4. I'm delighted that you are happy with your Mac Service Provider. I'm sure they just love to see you come in the door.  How do you account for the fact they didn't know about the patch? Because they're so excellent at their job? I mean you're the one that cited them in support of your case, not me. As your case is poppycock, you're the one that shows them up, not me.

     

    Y'all have a nice day now.

  • by Pete Kroner,

    Pete Kroner Pete Kroner Apr 21, 2015 1:31 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 21, 2015 1:31 PM in response to Csound1

    Girls, girls...stop this fighting and get back to work!

     

    It worked, so far.  I trashed my "Photos" Library....took overnight.

    I renamed my "iPhoto" Library "Photos"...

    And then opened Photos App.  It seems that all photos, albums are comming up in the Photos app which were part of my iPhoto app.

    Now, to see what effect this has on the Apple TV folder....

    Wish me luck..

    Pete

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 21, 2015 7:28 PM in response to Pete Kroner
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    Apr 21, 2015 7:28 PM in response to Pete Kroner

    Pete -

     

    Good show!  Thanks for running the experiment.  You've done the rest of us, doubters notwithstanding, a great service.

     

    Folks like you who explore alternate solutions and share results are worth your weight.  Calling Apple Support always is the recommended shortcut.  It beats wading through a barnyard of advice from the unvetted.  After all, the loudest, most insistent voice rarely offers what others need or want.

     

    MrP will sign off soon, surely for another several years, as soon as he reports his findings about PhotoDirector6.  Or I might try your solution and stop the PD6 experiment.  I could stand to eliminate, not add, a possible impediment to the daisy-chain.  Flashback central!  Did I just terminate a Phonenet Connector?


    Heaven's-to-System-6!  And earlier.

     

    MrP

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  • by juergendersoftwaremeister,

    juergendersoftwaremeister juergendersoftwaremeister Apr 21, 2015 7:48 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Apr 21, 2015 7:48 PM in response to mystwillow

    No solution, but I do agree with you that the loss of Events is an issue with large libraries.  I am happy with the way iPhotos organised things and do not feel like re-categorizing 30 000 photos.  I understand that I can organise into albums with new inputs, but there is no way I want to do that with over 700 events from iPhoto.

     

    I am using iPhoto for as long as it is supported, then I will go over to Picasa which takes a more logical approach to presenting folders of photos.

  • by juergendersoftwaremeister,

    juergendersoftwaremeister juergendersoftwaremeister Apr 21, 2015 7:49 PM in response to toulouse
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    Apr 21, 2015 7:49 PM in response to toulouse

    I filled out a feedback form for Photos asking for them to consider offering events.

  • by boy1dr2000,

    boy1dr2000 boy1dr2000 Apr 22, 2015 5:00 AM in response to CoopJohn B
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    Apr 22, 2015 5:00 AM in response to CoopJohn B

    100% agree. I was quite comfortable in iPhoto grouping things into events, e.g. Family, Friends, 2014 Summer Vacation etc. Then using Faces, Places or Search to then get to the next level of detail, e.g. a particular time frame, or location, or face. This has all gone in Photos. I also liked the star functionality, which was great for sorted out all the good shots from the bad shots so you can show others only your best shots etc. Its a disaster. Probably just a way for Apple to make users buy cloud storage......well I'm not moving across with the above features, so they are getting nothing from me just yet!

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Apr 22, 2015 5:31 AM in response to boy1dr2000
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    Apr 22, 2015 5:31 AM in response to boy1dr2000
    Then using Faces, Places or Search to then get to the next level of detail, e.g. a particular time frame, or location, or face. This has all gone in Photos.

     

    That's all present in Photos.

     

    I also liked the star functionality, which was great for sorted out all the good shots from the bad shots so you can show others only your best shots etc. Its a disaster.

     

    That's simple to replicate with keywords - you can even assign then the same shortcuts.

     

    Probably just a way for Apple to make users buy cloud storage

     

    Given that the app runs exactly the same with or without the Cloud features... Probably not.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 22, 2015 6:44 AM in response to boy1dr2000
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    Apr 22, 2015 6:44 AM in response to boy1dr2000

    boy1dr2000 wrote:

     

    100% agree. I was quite comfortable in iPhoto

    Then continue to use iPhoto, no-one is forcing you to use Photos.

  • by djgmpg,

    djgmpg djgmpg Apr 23, 2015 3:51 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Apr 23, 2015 3:51 PM in response to mystwillow

    I've switched back to iphoto as so frustrated at trying to find my photo's.  Went into Finder and dragged the iphoto icon down onto the toolbar and regained access to iphoto.  Simple as that ! Well, for the time being anyway.

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