Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

So, are you saying that Terence and I (not to mention the many other people still using iPhoto) are wrong, what is it that you (and Pier) know?

I have never posted on 'discussions', so hope I am putting this in the right place.

PHOTOS for me also is the worst possible thing that has happened since having had Macs .... quite a few years. Although a granny with little computer knowledge, I got to know iPhoto (partly because of paying lots of money for Apple lessons!).

Now Photos is a minefield and, so far, the worst thing for me is that photos in the PHOTOS program do not show up when opening the app, nor can I send any photos as nothing comes up after iPhoto stopped.

I don't expect this posting to add any value to anybody, just wanted to add my horror to this new app to the attention of Apple.

Then go on using iPhoto...

As for the attention of Apple:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/photos.html

Is the place for feedback and feature requests.

Cloggie8 wrote:

 

I have never posted on 'discussions', so hope I am putting this in the right place.

PHOTOS for me also is the worst possible thing that has happened since having had Macs .... quite a few years. Although a granny with little computer knowledge, I got to know iPhoto (partly because of paying lots of money for Apple lessons!).

Now Photos is a minefield and, so far, the worst thing for me is that photos in the PHOTOS program do not show up when opening the app, nor can I send any photos as nothing comes up after iPhoto stopped.

I don't expect this posting to add any value to anybody, just wanted to add my horror to this new app to the attention of Apple.

Do you not think that reading the thread may be superior to just complaining?

iPhoto is not gone, it's on your Mac, clearly not enough "years with Macs" have passed for you to find an application on one.

Look in the applications folder for yours.

Horror? really

Csound1 - I guess you don't realise that this is a support community, which to me means a listening to and helping each other. Is it really necessary to make things personal?

Cloggie8 - a tip that when you do find the iPhoto app in the Applications just drag it down to the Dock at the bottom. If you are going to be using iPhoto a lot moving forward, perhaps think about dragging the icon down to the Dock to make it easier and faster to to access moving forward.

boy1dr2000 wrote:

 

If you are going to be using iPhoto a lot moving forward, perhaps think about dragging the icon down to the Dock to make it easier and faster to to access moving forward.

Bad advice. If you are thinking of it 'moving forward' then don't. It is no longer supported for development. Learn to use Photos or some other editing software, as their is no guarantee that iPhotos will be supported in any new OS X let alone any Yosemite update.

Cheers

Pete

I am in full agrement, I Don't even have the old i photo's and my camera can't down load into this piece of crap.

Bad advice. If you are thinking of it 'moving forward' then don't. It is no longer supported for development. Learn to use Photos or some other editing software, as their is no guarantee that iPhotos will be supported in any new OS X let alone any Yosemite update.

Why burn all bridges in a hurry?  i think it is essential to keep iPhoto or Aperture in a working condition during the transition.The older apps need to be available to troubleshoot the photo libraries before the migration, if the libraries have a corruption and cannot be migrated. And to prepare the libraries for a smoother migration.

Photos is lacking essential tools to manage large libraries, like batch changing titles and options, or even assigning places. For the migration from Aperture/iPhoto to Photos it much better to be able to prepare the library in the more versatile application, make all metadata (titles,captions, places) consistent, batch change all titles to regular titles, that are still showing the default filenames, plan the folders and albums, recreate smart albums that cannot be migrated (if they are based on constraints  not supported in Photos), etc.

And only when the library is well prepared and on a drive with a supported file system, try to migrate to Photos.  The same would hold for the migration to any other application.  First give the new application a thorough trial run and learn to use it, prepare the photo library as best as you can for an easy migration, and only then migrate the main photo libraries to wherever you want to.

But that requires to be able to use both applications during the transit.

And probably will it be necessary at some time to restore older photo libraries from a backup, if there are missing referenced files or corrupted images in the main library. Only then it may be too late to reinstall iPhoto 9.6.1 or Aperture 3.6. Better be safe than sorry.

See my User Tip:  Notes on Migrating an iPhoto Library from iPhoto to Photos for Mac

I understand where you are coming from, and as I have said in other threads, I also am not using Photos as a

n alternative to iPhotos at present, but what I was saying was that if one is planning to 'move forward', then Aperture and iPhoto really aren't in the mix due to no future support. I have no disagreement with your comments whatsoever.  I have a bit of a muck around with Photos from time to time and I think that at some stage in the future it will be a viable alternative to iPhoto, but unfortunately it has a long way to go before being an alternative to Aperture.

Cheers

Pete

I think that at some stage in the future it will be a viable alternative to iPhoto, but unfortunately it has a long way to go before being an alternative to Aperture.

Give it two years. 

I've been through a similar difficult upgrade with GarageBand 10 as a replacement for the iLife version of GarageBand '11.

The first release of GarageBand 10 was a nightmare. Many of the important tools that all users loved have been deprecated and replaced by simplified features from Logic, but in such a simplified in a way, that they were nearly useless. Apple listened to the users, and brought some GarageBand '11 features back, and improved the new features. By now, GarageBand 10 is a nice application, and I rarely need to fall back on GarageBand '11 or Logic.

boy1dr2000 wrote:

 

Csound1 - I guess you don't realise that this is a support community, which to me means a listening to and helping each other. Is it really necessary to make things personal?

I do not take notice of critics who have failed to help anyone at all, like you.

Hi there.

I have been batch changing info on my photos after Photos was installed. Like others, I have an extensive library that was organised into Events. Those events are still there, just under the folder iPhoto Events. Now I have been tagging many batches of photos with success. It is very similar to batch changing information in iTunes. Command - I and then add keywords or whatever else needs changing. They are searchable etc. Really, I haven't lost any organisation in my library. I feel like there might be more duplicates than need be and am having issues with sorting out photostream, and deletions. But other than that, the learning curve for Photos isn't as much as a disaster as it could be. It just takes poking around.

Command - I and then add keywords or whatever else needs changing. T

You can add keywords to more than one photo at once in the Info panel (command - I),  but the the panel does neither show the name field nor the caption field when more than one photo is selected. So you cannot batch change the title and the caption for more than one photo at a time. And you cannot set the capture date for more than one photo to the same time, if you have to set the dates for scans.

Thank you chipsfortea ! Thank you! I'm so happy for these tips. Did I say thank you already?

Thank you so much for this! Going back to using iPhoto!