mystwillow
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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by dean44,

    dean44 dean44 May 25, 2015 6:59 PM in response to cat320
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    May 25, 2015 6:59 PM in response to cat320

    Brilliant!  Works great.  any idea how to save the editing?  I keep getting a warning message that any editing I do now will not transfer over,  If apple remains true to form, they will screw users over on iPhoto soon enough

  • by iMakrap,

    iMakrap iMakrap May 26, 2015 7:11 AM in response to dean44
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    May 26, 2015 7:11 AM in response to dean44

    After reverting to iPhotos has any of you guys checked the number of pics in the iPhoto Library confronted with the number of pics on another iOs device? (i.e. iPhone?) I've found pics on my iPhone> Photo> Album> iPhoto Events that are not on my iPhoto Library on my Mac and vice versa!! I'm totally confused!!! What a **** is happening?!?!?

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 26, 2015 11:44 AM in response to iMakrap
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    Photos for Mac
    May 26, 2015 11:44 AM in response to iMakrap

    when you go back to iPhoto you are using the library you opened - nothing has been changed in it and there is no reason that it would or should contain the same photos as any IOS device

     

    LN

  • by iMakrap,

    iMakrap iMakrap May 26, 2015 1:04 PM in response to LarryHN
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    May 26, 2015 1:04 PM in response to LarryHN

    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough or I didn't understand all of this iPhoto, Photo, iCloud, Streaming Photo, mess! My question is: If I have iCloud Library activated on my iPhone, my iPhone>Photo>Album>iPhoto Events shouldn't be the same as my iPhoto Events Library on my Mac?!?

  • by Bugser,

    Bugser Bugser May 26, 2015 1:00 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    May 26, 2015 1:00 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    On 3 of our Mac's, iPhoto is not accessible, it is grayed out.....is there a simple restore option? I have tried Time Machine but have been too anxious for it to load to see if iPhoto can be restored....am I just too impatient?

     

    FWIW, I do like the Events categorization.....easy to find things.....


    Thanks

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 26, 2015 1:15 PM in response to iMakrap
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    May 26, 2015 1:15 PM in response to iMakrap

    iMakrap wrote:

     

    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear enough or I didn't understand all of this iPhoto, Photo, iCloud, Streaming Photo, mess! My question is: If I have iCloud Library activated on my iPhone, my iPhone>Photo>Album>iPhoto Events shouldn't be the same as my iPhoto Events Library on my Mac?!?

    and the answer is

     

    there is no reason that it would or should contain the same photos as any IOS device

    iPhoto does not use iCloud Photo Library - it uses a local iphoto library and you went back to the last one you had so it has exactly what was there then - you can move photos form IOS devices to it using MyPhotoStream or iTunes sync - it does not use iCloud Photo Library in any way

     

    again

     


    when you go back to iPhoto you are using the library you opened - nothing has been changed in it [it is the exact same as when you last used it] and there is no reason that it would or should contain the same photos as any IOS device


    LN

  • by Zipkin,

    Zipkin Zipkin May 26, 2015 3:03 PM in response to mystwillow
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    May 26, 2015 3:03 PM in response to mystwillow

    My problem seems to be different.   When I "upgraded", Apple installed Photos, and SEEMS to have wiped my iPhoto library.   I suddenly have all this hard-drive space, no iPhoto library shows up on search, and Photos insisted on creating a new library when I wanted to import latest pix from my SLR.   I think Apple has screwed me royally, unless I'm missing something here.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 26, 2015 3:41 PM in response to Zipkin
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    May 26, 2015 3:41 PM in response to Zipkin

    Unless you did an erase and install the iPhoto application should still be in your Applications folder.  As for the iPhoto Library unless you were using it somewhere else it should be in your Pictures folder. 

     

    I take it you didn't upgrade to Yosemite yourself, right?  You should still have a copy of your library and the iPhoto application from the backup copy of your hard drive that you made before taking it in for upgrading. Restore both the application and library from that backup.

  • by draconem,

    draconem draconem May 28, 2015 8:45 AM in response to mystwillow
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    May 28, 2015 8:45 AM in response to mystwillow

    I just went through a similar frustrating experience. 

     

    Once you have migrated an iPhoto library to iphotos, you can still open the original iPhoto library with iPhoto.  However, if you then want to recreate the iPhotos library, it says that the iPhoto library has already been migrated and won't open it.  I have not experimented to see if simply changing the filename back allow this to happen.  Instead I pulled my last backup from Time Machine and kept both versions around.

    Why did I do this?  Well, after having been told by an Apple advisor that iPhotos would not change the library, I learned that he was wrong in the worst way.  I have a library of some 233GB, and had only 60GB or so left on disk.  iPhotos still went ahead and created  library of some 220GB or so (I believe it was incomplete which is why I recreated it, but with backups in place).  Meanwhile, my system ground to a near halt.  In fact, using "info" in Finder on my HD, it claimed I had 611GB on a 499GB drive.  Interesting eh?

     

    I had to clear all my library files off onto an external Thunderbolt drive and do the file manipulations there.  Only to find when finally opening iPhotos that it is a poor second cousin to iPhoto in terms of ability to sort photos and events.  EG there's no "info" sidebar available any more - you have to look at events/pictures individually and either right click select get info, or in the picture viewer, click on the "i" icon top right.  Nowhere near as smooth to use.

     

    In addition, an iPhoto feature that is lost is the ability to drag a cursor across an event and see a fast scan of all the pictures, and the date range of the event.

     

    I will persevere and hope I'm missing something, but for now I remain very frustrated, with over a dozen old iPhoto libraries to deal with.  I too will use iPhoto for as long as I can.

  • by nzjo99,

    nzjo99 nzjo99 May 31, 2015 7:11 PM in response to toulouse
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    Mac OS X
    May 31, 2015 7:11 PM in response to toulouse

    I too HATE photos - what a backward step Apple. Give us back Iphoto

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 May 31, 2015 7:19 PM in response to nzjo99
    Level 5 (7,402 points)
    May 31, 2015 7:19 PM in response to nzjo99

    Thanks for your detailed post. iPhoto will be developed no further. Keep using the latest version. it was never removed. Also you are not talking to Apple here, only other users.

     

    Pete

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 31, 2015 10:15 PM in response to nzjo99
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    May 31, 2015 10:15 PM in response to nzjo99

    You have it  - just use ti

     

    LN

  • by Wound Up,

    Wound Up Wound Up Jun 2, 2015 3:22 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Jun 2, 2015 3:22 PM in response to mystwillow

    i got thru these step and now have iPhoto working again , but when i try to download a picture , i.e.. right clicl on an internet picture , my options  ow are to download to Photos , not iPhoto.

    How do i make iPhoto my default

     

    many thanks for the help

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Jun 2, 2015 11:18 PM in response to Wound Up
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    Jun 2, 2015 11:18 PM in response to Wound Up
    but when i try to download a picture , i.e.. right clicl on an internet picture , my options  ow are to download to Photos , not iPhoto.

    That is how the current Safari version is working in MacOS X 10.10.3. Drag the photo to the iPhoto icon in the Dock to import it to iPhoto instead.

  • by Wound Up,

    Wound Up Wound Up Jun 3, 2015 7:30 AM in response to léonie
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    Jun 3, 2015 7:30 AM in response to léonie

    thats not a real solution

    There has ti be a way when your working on a macbook and you right click on an image to have the option of iPhoto instead of Photos?????

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