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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Apr 13, 2015 6:29 AM in response to michelefromwassenaar
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    Apr 13, 2015 6:29 AM in response to michelefromwassenaar

    That's so funny because I remember the fuss in 2008 when they introduced Events and replaced Camera Roll. Move terminology about and this could be a post from then.

  • by MTNLUVR,Helpful

    MTNLUVR MTNLUVR Apr 13, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Apr 13, 2015 7:28 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    I think that the disconnect between Apple and amateur or professional photographers is huge right now.  I actually understand why Photos works for many of todays users.  For many people who are taking pictures mostly for social media, etc. it is a great format.   I'd like Apple to understand why it will never work for photographers who actually use cameras (not their iPhones and iPads) to take their pictures, and need to keep and organize a huge number of pictures in an accessible, sensible, well labelled format that will be able to be accessed for decades.

     

    I find myself tempted to go back to physical photo albums with labelled pictures - that way technology can't force me to have to change my format every couple of years and reorganize decades of photos.  I know that iCloud is Apple's answer to not losing data for eternity, but it is expensive and impractical for very large numbers of pictures - and we can't control how expensive it will become.   What if I have four decades of pictures in iCloud and the cost of keeping them there becomes prohibitive?  Is a lifetime of picture files gone then?

     

    Also, I realize that I can search for some long lost event - but there is also a lot of joy in scrolling through pictures - much like picking up a photo album from a shelf - and remembering forgotten events. 

     

    It is okay for Apple to make changes to make life easier for the social media generation, but Apple should be sophisticated enough to acknowledge it's other users also.  The responses seem to be to stop fussing and get used to the new ways - but sometimes the new ways are missing the big picture and sorely lacking to meet user needs.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Apr 13, 2015 9:11 AM in response to michelefromwassenaar
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    Apr 13, 2015 9:11 AM in response to michelefromwassenaar

    Don't tell us. We're just users like yourself.  Tell Apple at the links I posted in my previous post above.

  • by bouncer2468,

    bouncer2468 bouncer2468 Apr 13, 2015 10:04 AM in response to chipsfortea
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    Apr 13, 2015 10:04 AM in response to chipsfortea

    (((THANKYOU SO MUCH)))  TO CHIPSFORTEA. YOUR A GREAT HELP.

    THIS HAS JUST LIFTED A HUGE HEADACHE FOR ME.

    I WAS GOING CRAZY WITH THE NEW PHOTO SYSTEM.

    IPHOTO IS SO MUCH EASIER.!!!!!

     

    KINDEST REGARDS.

    BRIGITTE.XXXXXX.

  • by Richard3030,

    Richard3030 Richard3030 Apr 13, 2015 11:12 AM in response to MTNLUVR
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    Apr 13, 2015 11:12 AM in response to MTNLUVR

    > I think that the disconnect between Apple and amateur or professional photographers is huge right now.

     

    Traditional form of (digital) photography is a dying art, and Apple knows it. Apple caters to the masses and emerging technology. There is no point asking Apple to take care of a small group of photo enthusiasts or people who would rather stick to an old dying piece of software. It's going to be up to third party developer to pick up where iPhoto and Aperture left off. Someone should license Aperture and develop it into what it deserves. Meanwhile, I use Photos as a sharing tool and I (reluctantly) use Lightroom for my other needs.

     

    Richard

  • by white.norwell,

    white.norwell white.norwell Apr 13, 2015 12:03 PM in response to Richard Bowes
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    Apr 13, 2015 12:03 PM in response to Richard Bowes

    total agreement with this as I have over 60,000+ photos organized before this latest update that TRASHED all my work over the past 6+ years and the countless events I had ! ! !   Want to go back to to older way . . NEW is not always better ! ! !

  • by white.norwell,

    white.norwell white.norwell Apr 13, 2015 12:08 PM in response to Chuckles84
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    Apr 13, 2015 12:08 PM in response to Chuckles84

    events and albums are two totally different things in iPhoto !! ! !

     

    I have 500+  events and only 5 or 6 albums

  • by MrPheasant,

    MrPheasant MrPheasant Apr 13, 2015 12:37 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Apr 13, 2015 12:37 PM in response to mystwillow

    I dislike Photo so much I've decided to try PhotoDirector 6.  I'll boot it up as soon as the box arrives this week.  Meanwhile . . . because I used iPhoto Library Manager previously, I still have access to all of my pictures (and iPhoto albums).

     

    For me, Photo's real sin is its refusal to transfer any iPhoto picture for which it can't find metadata, which seems to be most of my iPhoto collection.  iPhoto doesn't seem to care - using iPhoto, I can do anything I want with any image.  In Photo, I can't even import those image to manipulate them.

     

    This is a big deal.

     

    Fail. 

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Apr 13, 2015 3:56 PM in response to chipsfortea
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    Apr 13, 2015 3:56 PM in response to chipsfortea

    If you have enabled the the iCloud Photo Library on the iPad you won't be able to use iTunes to sync photos anymore.  Disable that feature on the iPad and you should be able to start syncing with iTunes again.

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  • by edmundo,

    edmundo edmundo Apr 13, 2015 5:03 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Apr 13, 2015 5:03 PM in response to Old Toad

    just for review

     

    1.- If i trash photos library doesn't happened anything

     

    2.-Photos library does not change anything on iphoto library

     

    3.- I can still use aperture with iphoto library

  • by aries7415,

    aries7415 aries7415 Apr 13, 2015 7:13 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Apr 13, 2015 7:13 PM in response to mystwillow

    I am also very unhappy with the Photo Application.  It does feel like all the photos I worked so hard to categorize and sort into Events have now become like a messy shoe box.

     

    I really want to be able to use iPhoto but am afraid that any photos I work/edit won't be converted should the iPhoto application go away in the future.  I already paid the price literally in the past when I bought Aperture, only to find out later that this would not be a supported application.

     

    Apple, please find a way to allow me to go back to iPhoto without there being a risk of losing photos, updates/edits, or information attached to each photo.  I do know that I can still open the iPhoto App but the warning in the beginning stating that all future changes and additions won't be reflected in the Photos App scares me.  What am I going to lose now?

     

    Also, I never liked the way my iPad or iPhone organized my photos.  It took the control I had over the organization and now I'm supposed to understand someone else's method.

  • by CoopJohn B,

    CoopJohn B CoopJohn B Apr 13, 2015 8:59 PM in response to white.norwell
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    Apr 13, 2015 8:59 PM in response to white.norwell

    Agreed, 27,000 photos later and I have no organization to rely on.

    What are they thinking???

  • by michelefromwassenaar,

    michelefromwassenaar michelefromwassenaar Apr 14, 2015 12:42 AM in response to CoopJohn B
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    Apr 14, 2015 12:42 AM in response to CoopJohn B

    I  was advised by a friend to use digital darkroom from Adobe.

     

    My problem is that I do NOT need to edit pictures except for very basic crop/flip/rotate, change date/location and possibly red-eye, so I consider

    that an overkill (this is also why I do not use Aperture).

     

    I need only an efficient organiser/archiver (to HD) for my home collection of photo + very basic editing as above.

     

    Presently I'm using iPhoto + "iPhoto Library manager" and I'm sort of happy about it.

     

    Any suggestion of what would be the best software to take over from iPhoto ?? Would be nice if it had concept of separate libraries so that I do not need to wade through 60000+ picture every time.

  • by D1no,

    D1no D1no Apr 14, 2015 3:14 AM in response to mystwillow
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    Apr 14, 2015 3:14 AM in response to mystwillow

    I agree with everything you have said: Photos is junk!

     

    I have uploaded all my photos to Flikr: with a free 1TB of storage i intend simply using Flikr from now on ...

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Apr 14, 2015 5:24 AM in response to michelefromwassenaar
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    Apr 14, 2015 5:24 AM in response to michelefromwassenaar

    Photos will do all that you want. As will Picasa from Google. If you don't want non-destructive processing check out an app like Graphic Converter which has a good photo browser but doesn't use a library as such.

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