mystwillow
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Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jul 7, 2015 12:56 PM in response to brad0319
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    Jul 7, 2015 12:56 PM in response to brad0319

    If it is making you so miserable then keep using iPhoto.

     

    Pete

  • by brad0319,

    brad0319 brad0319 Jul 8, 2015 11:11 AM in response to petermac87
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    Jul 8, 2015 11:11 AM in response to petermac87

    I am using iPhoto but thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, at some point in the future I will be forced to use Photos.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 8, 2015 2:58 PM in response to brad0319
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    Jul 8, 2015 2:58 PM in response to brad0319
    Unfortunately, at some point in the future I will be forced to use Photos.

     

    You will never be forced to use Photos or any other app.

     

    If at some point in the future iPhoto fails, then you can use any other app you like the manage your Photos - for instance... Picasa, Lightroom, Adobe Bridge, The Finder and there's about 10 more that you can google.

  • by Terrible,

    Terrible Terrible Jul 10, 2015 3:16 PM in response to mystwillow
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    Jul 10, 2015 3:16 PM in response to mystwillow

    've got over 20,000 photos separated into bunch of albums. Upgraded initially, I'm with the rest I can't believe Apple has not left the option to add to albums. I have no use for iCloud storage. Prefer right here. Was able to go back to 10.10.2, restore iPhone and iPad, only about 24hrs of wasted time. The new photos would be ok with me if they allowed adding to albums when you sync new photos or import and put in an album of my choice, instead of a giant collage these tired eyes can't begin to see. Memorys not good so dates don't help. Stupid decision almost good enough for me to do the unthinkable and kiss Apple goodbye. Asinine decision on their part. I'm afraid a little greed has crept into Apple wanting all to buy their iCloud storage. Not working here. Listen to your customers, can you say Nokia!

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 10, 2015 3:40 PM in response to Terrible
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    Jul 10, 2015 3:40 PM in response to Terrible

    How about... Can you say Of course you can add to Albums, drag and drop or use the + button. Really?

  • by brad0319,

    brad0319 brad0319 Jul 10, 2015 4:36 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 10, 2015 4:36 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    The problem with creating "ALBUMS" is that now I will have an even longer list of crap on the side menu, which I do not want.  iPhoto was neatly organized and aesthetically pleasing to look at in the main viewing window. Why would I want to change that? I don't and many other people do not as well. Oh wait, but if I create a long list of albums maybe I can hide the list just like I can with Photos events (which only imported the first picture of each event from iPhoto) which is completely stupid. Hide list = lame solution.  The old format and viewing of pictures in iPhoto was great. Why mess with it? Oh, I keep forgetting about the social media experience. Figure out how to make them both work without making Photos look like cheap crap created a decade ago. Plain white background with my photos now organized from oldest at the top to newest at the bottom (another stupid change). Please Apple fanboys reply. I am also a fan but losing faith in them slowly each time they take away popular features and continue to ruin iTunes and iPhoto.

  • by Terrible,

    Terrible Terrible Jul 10, 2015 4:38 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 10, 2015 4:38 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    There's no option, at least on my MacBook Pro. I import photos but there's no albums to be seen to drag or drop into. And if I sync or just import they go into last import, how to get from there to various albums.

  • by Terrible,

    Terrible Terrible Jul 10, 2015 5:11 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 10, 2015 5:11 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    Someone needs to do a YouTube video. I get the photos but can't get them into my existing album. I have one say for example of my son, when I put in a bunch of photos, some are of him, but I can't figure out how to get them into his album. No iCloud, that just causes me to create duplicates. Just on my MacBook.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 10, 2015 11:32 PM in response to Terrible
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    Jul 10, 2015 11:32 PM in response to Terrible

    Enable the Side bar in the View Menu. Also, there's a whole forum for the Photos app here.

     

    Photos for Mac

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 10, 2015 11:39 PM in response to brad0319
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    Jul 10, 2015 11:39 PM in response to brad0319
    The problem with creating "ALBUMS" is that now I will have an even longer list of crap on the side menu, which I do not want.

     

    Use folders. Put the Albums in Folder. Just like iPhoto.

     

    iPhoto was neatly organized and aesthetically pleasing to look at in the main viewing window. Why would I want to change that?

    No one is asking you to, just keep using iPhoto if you want.

     

    I don't and many other people do not as well.

     

    How many? How do you know?

     

      The old format and viewing of pictures in iPhoto was great. Why mess with it?

     

    They didn't mess it with. It's exactly the same.

     

    Oh, I keep forgetting about the social media experience.

     

    Yes, well keep forgetting about it. It has no relevance. They haven't ruined iPhoto, they've done nothing with it at all,. It's exactly the same.

     

    Photos is a new app, designed for a different purpose. In a world where most Apple users are Phone users, where most Apple users are mobile users, shooting with the iPhone, the most popular camera in the world, the killer feature of Photos is the iCloud library. That's the need Photos is designed for. If that's not you, then stick with iPhoto or move to some other app. There are lots of them.

  • by Terrible,

    Terrible Terrible Jul 11, 2015 11:18 AM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 11, 2015 11:18 AM in response to Terence Devlin

    Terrance Devlin, I love you! Terrible Hirst

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 11, 2015 11:52 AM in response to Terrible
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    Jul 11, 2015 11:52 AM in response to Terrible

    Oh hush, now everyone will know

  • by brad0319,

    brad0319 brad0319 Jul 12, 2015 12:20 PM in response to Terence Devlin
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    Jul 12, 2015 12:20 PM in response to Terence Devlin

    Thanks for the informative reply but in your defense of Apple you are misunderstanding many of the points that are being discussed by just putting your bandaids on the problems. it's okay. You will defend everything that Apple does and that is ok. They have to keep taking someones money from them.

     

    Folders - Why would I want to create a list of sidebar folders in Photos when I have neatly organized pictures already in  iPhoto, which I am using, that I will one day be forced to stop using.

     

    # of people - I don't have to know them personally I just need to come to the "support" forum to see how many people don't like it. Maybe you have noticed all the comments? Not sure how you missed them since you keep defending Photos.

     

    When Photos was created they changed the viewing experience that was IN iPhoto. Obviously the did not change iPhoto. I didn't think I had to spell that out. Yes, iPhoto is still intact and you can use it for a limited time but if you migrated to Photos it was shocking to see how outdated it looks as well as the poor user experience.

     

    They are making Photos work on a platform that suits social media users which are people that primarily use their Phone, as you stated, for everything.

     

    iCloud is currently still a joke compared to what you can get elsewhere and  as some people have stated they don't want to use iCloud because of it's limited storage.

     

    Apple just wants you to keep paying for more stuff. Expand your iCloud at $$$$, get Apple music for $$$$, etc, etc.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Jul 12, 2015 1:03 PM in response to brad0319
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    Jul 12, 2015 1:03 PM in response to brad0319

    I didn't defend Apple at all, not my business too. I did however challenge your thinking.

     

    Folders - Why would I want to create a list of sidebar folders in Photos when I have neatly organized pictures already in  iPhoto, which I am using, that I will one day be forced to stop using.

     

    You will never be forced to stop using iPhoto. You can use in perpetuity if you want to. Just don't upgrade your OS or your machine. Just like your car. Look after it and keep it serviced and there's no reason to change it. The reason you might want to create folders is to help you organise.

     

    # of people - I don't have to know them personally I just need to come to the "support" forum to see how many people don't like it. Maybe you have noticed all the comments? Not sure how you missed them since you keep defending Photos.

     

    Again, I don't defend Photos. I don't even use it. And yes I've noticed the comments. How many? Few hundred? Out of how many users? Of course, coming here will never give you a fair assessment of how people like or dislike an app or service. Only the unhappy people come here. None of the happy ones do.

     

    When Photos was created they changed the viewing experience that was IN iPhoto. Obviously the did not change iPhoto. I didn't think I had to spell that out. Yes, iPhoto is still intact and you can use it for a limited time but if you migrated to Photos it was shocking to see how outdated it looks as well as the poor user experience.

     

    So they changed the viewing experience in iPhoto but they didn't. What part of 'Photos is a whole other app' don't you get?

     

     

     

    They are making Photos work on a platform that suits social media users which are people that primarily use their Phone, as you stated, for everything.

     

    Well again, you're confusing mobile and social media, not the same thing. But if that is what most of Apple's customers want, what's wrong with that? You don't have to use it. You can continue with iPhoto or use any other app you choose. See? I have no use for it so I use another app, one that suits my usage case.

     

    iCloud is currently still a joke compared to what you can get elsewhere and  as some people have stated they don't want to use iCloud because of it's limited storage.


    If that's what you think then use some other service more to your taste.


    Apple just wants you to keep paying for more stuff. Expand your iCloud at $$$$, get Apple music for $$$$, etc, etc.

     

    Well hush my soul. A multi-national corporation that earns profits selling good and services wants to sell more? Amazing concept. You think it will catch on? Please, once you find such an entity that doesn’t want to earn money from us, let me know immediately. But don't forget, you don't have to give them a red cent.

  • by Darin Hoffman,

    Darin Hoffman Darin Hoffman Jul 13, 2015 11:44 AM in response to chipsfortea
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    Jul 13, 2015 11:44 AM in response to chipsfortea

    Thanks!  Just what I needed.

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