mystwillow

Q: Reverting to iPhoto after Photos migration

Does anyone know if it is ok to delete the new Photos library from the Pictures folder after you've migrated your iPhoto library to Photos? This is the situation I'm in - I migrated my library to Photos but I HATE it. I am very invested in Events and being able to review each new batch of photos before categorizing them into the appropriate events, and with this new app it's like everything is in a giant shoebox, it seems to include all my Photo Stream pictures in my library before I'm ready (I typically delete a lot of dud pictures every time I import, now they are all mixed in automatically and I have to remember how far back I've gone through and culled), and there's no way to tell which pictures haven't been categorized into an event yet. Worst of all, there's no way to hide photos from all views. Not only are hidden albums/events not even a thing anymore, Photos "conveniently" makes a whole new album of all the pictures I didn't want anyone to see. So now instead of me being the only one who would know where to look for hidden photos/Events in my library when they were unhidden, they're all collected in one place at the top level of my albums view. Why anyone would want an automatic, top-level album of all photos in an entire library that were meant not to be see, I don't know. Seems to defeat the entire privacy/security purpose of the Hide feature. Not to mention, anyone can still see all hidden photos when scrolling through the Albums view.

 

Long story short, I am RUNNING back to iPhoto for as long as Apple allows it to be used. Now, I know that any changes I make to the iPhoto library won't carry over automatically to Photos. I'm fine with that as I don't intend to use Photos until I'm forced to. However, I know that at some point I will be forced to use it, and at that point its library will be (hopefully) several years out of date. Since Photos creates symbolic links to the photo files, I know I could easily have deleted the iPhoto library when I migrated to Photos, but does that work both ways? I guess my question is, can I delete the Photos library I have now, keep working with my iPhoto library until iPhoto is killed completely, and then re-import the entire library back into Photos? Or do my photo files actually now live in the Photos library package instead of the iPhoto library package and deleting the Photos library will delete all my photos?

 

Any clarification on my options would be appreciated.

MacBook, Mac OS X (10.5)

Posted on Apr 9, 2015 6:29 PM

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  • by Rob Cumberland,

    Rob Cumberland Rob Cumberland Mar 7, 2016 10:30 AM in response to Chuckles84
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    Mar 7, 2016 10:30 AM in response to Chuckles84

    Where the disconnect comes between iPhoto and Photos is that Events in iPhoto are NOT migrated to Albums in Photos. Events are deleted and everything is put into Moments by time stamp. We have tens of thousands of photos... Photos is never going to be any use to me without Events and Event migration.

     

    In iPhoto you could drag a bunch of Events into an Album. Can you (in Photos) drag a bunch of Albums into an Album and still see the original separate Albums? It even sounds stupid.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Mar 7, 2016 10:36 AM in response to Rob Cumberland
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    Mar 7, 2016 10:36 AM in response to Rob Cumberland

    Didn't you read my last post?  All events in the iPhoto library were converted to Albums in the Photos library and placed in a folder titled iPhoto Events.  You can see it in the sidebar.

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Mar 7, 2016 10:33 PM in response to Rob Cumberland
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    Mar 7, 2016 10:33 PM in response to Rob Cumberland
    that Events in iPhoto are NOT migrated to Albums in Photos

     

    They are for everyone else. Have you enabled the Sidebar?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie Mar 8, 2016 3:48 AM in response to Rob Cumberland
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    Mar 8, 2016 3:48 AM in response to Rob Cumberland

    After the Migration you should be seeing folder "iPhoto Events", and inside one album for each event.  Click the disclosure triangle at the left side of the folder icon to show the albums inside.

     

    To reveal the sidebar enter the key combination option-command-S    ⌥⌘S

     

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  • by Rob Cumberland,

    Rob Cumberland Rob Cumberland Mar 8, 2016 8:31 AM in response to léonie
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    Mar 8, 2016 8:31 AM in response to léonie

    I'm afraid my Photos migration is long gone. I think I got Photos with El Capitan. I tried using it for several days... I couldn't find these albums or any mention of them. I finally gave up and reverted to iPhoto.

     

    If you can ignore Moments and Places an just use albums that is promising.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 8, 2016 8:34 AM in response to Rob Cumberland
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    Mar 8, 2016 8:34 AM in response to Rob Cumberland

    You don't see them on your sidebar?

    Screen Shot 2016-03-08 at 10.33.15.png

  • by mioan,

    mioan mioan Mar 9, 2016 4:45 AM in response to mystwillow
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    Mar 9, 2016 4:45 AM in response to mystwillow

    The "Event" as entity is something different from the "Album".

    iPhoto had both of these types of grouping, while in Photos you can only create Albums.

     

    The albums break some basic rules of the "Events", e.g.

    - a photo can belong to only one Event

    - the user must be able to see somewhere all the photos that are not classified under an event.

     

    Both these function were performed extremely well by iPhoto, while the lack of such functions in Photos, destroy everything for the users who want to classify in a systematic way their photos.

    For me this is where my anger for Photos comes from and why I reverted to iPhoto and feel again "home".

  • by Terence Devlin,

    Terence Devlin Terence Devlin Mar 9, 2016 5:02 AM in response to mioan
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    Mar 9, 2016 5:02 AM in response to mioan

    The "Event" as entity is something different from the "Album".

     

    Correct.

     

    iPhoto had both of these types of grouping, while in Photos you can only create Albums.

    Correct as well, but you do have Moments, which are broadly analogous to events. Before iPhoto had Events it had Rolls and we heard pretty much exactly the same kind of complaining when they because events. Yet, somehow, the world didn’t end...

     

    The albums break some basic rules of the "Events", e.g.

    - a photo can belong to only one Event

    - the user must be able to see somewhere all the photos that are not classified under an event.

     

    Well, not quite accurate. A photo could be in multiple events if you wanted to duplicate it, and use more hard disk space.

     

    Not sure what you mean by your second "rule" but every photo in iPhoto was in an event and yes you can also view the whole library in Photos.


    while the lack of such functions in Photos, destroy everything for the users who want to classify in a systematic way their photos.

     

    No, there are many possible systems of classifying your photos and the new app has almost all the ones iPhoto had, plus a few more.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Mar 9, 2016 10:57 AM in response to mioan
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    Mar 9, 2016 10:57 AM in response to mioan
    while in Photos you can only create Albums.

    Not strictly true.  Moments are based on date taken and location.  You can assemble photos you want to put in a new moment in an album, select all and change the date and give them a new location.  This will create a new moment on that date with those photos. 

     

    However it would be easier and more expedient to use albums as described in this user tip: Moments in Photos are the New Events

  • by lynnefromstreet,

    lynnefromstreet lynnefromstreet Mar 28, 2016 10:54 AM in response to cat320
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    Mar 28, 2016 10:54 AM in response to cat320

    Thank you!! This is brilliant.

  • by FrustratediMacUser,

    FrustratediMacUser FrustratediMacUser May 5, 2016 2:01 PM in response to toulouse
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    May 5, 2016 2:01 PM in response to toulouse

    I fully agree - Photos is appalling. I made the mistake of migrating to Photos. Can I roll back to iPhoto easily?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 5, 2016 2:14 PM in response to FrustratediMacUser
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    May 5, 2016 2:14 PM in response to FrustratediMacUser

    No

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 5, 2016 2:22 PM in response to FrustratediMacUser
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    May 5, 2016 2:22 PM in response to FrustratediMacUser

    No

     

    Not unless you have a bootable clone to return to  --  and there is really nothing to roll backup to  since iPhoto is dead and will someday (I'm guessing soon)  have the final stake driven through its heart and then the users will be in a world of hurt to no good path forward

     

    and BTW - Photos is not only not appalling but is a major advancement over iPhoto in pretty much every way - it is different and does require study and learning like all new programs and many things require a different workflow - but it is FAR from appaling

     

    If you have questions post them including your exact set up including software versions and help is readily available - no one can help with RANTs adn editorials

     

    LN

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 6, 2016 10:43 AM in response to FrustratediMacUser
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    May 6, 2016 10:43 AM in response to FrustratediMacUser

    What sorts of problems are you having with it?  Why not start a new topic in the Photos forum and spell out your issues in detail so you can get some help.  Trying to do that here at the end of a 30 page topic is a bit of a pain. 

  • by atxrobinette,

    atxrobinette atxrobinette Jun 3, 2016 4:23 PM in response to chipsfortea
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    Jun 3, 2016 4:23 PM in response to chipsfortea

    Replying only to say that I googled this same question and found your thread and share your frustration and dislike for Photos, for all the same reasons.  Moving my library back if I can!  I hope Apple is listening!

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