How do I permanently erase my files on an iBook G4?
How do I permanently erase my files on an iBook G4?
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How do I permanently erase my files on an iBook G4?
You could start the computer in Target Disk Mode so it appears as external HDD
to another Mac that has FireWire ports. Then drag the files, or use other software
options to move or use them elsewhere.
•How to use and troubleshoot FireWire target disk mode - Apple Support
•The ultimate guide to ejecting a stuck disc from Mac superdrive (in computer)
Hopefully these links may be of help to both of your current questions that could
have been placed in the same thread, if they both relate to attempting to handle
issues with the iBook G4 in both instances.
Also, for tedium and last ditch effort, you could open up the iBook G4 and remove
the internal hard disk drive, then put that into an enclosure or use a universal USB
wire kit to access the bare drive via another computer.
Good luck & happy computing! 🙂
You could start the computer in Target Disk Mode so it appears as external HDD
to another Mac that has FireWire ports. Then drag the files, or use other software
options to move or use them elsewhere.
•How to use and troubleshoot FireWire target disk mode - Apple Support
•The ultimate guide to ejecting a stuck disc from Mac superdrive (in computer)
Hopefully these links may be of help to both of your current questions that could
have been placed in the same thread, if they both relate to attempting to handle
issues with the iBook G4 in both instances.
Also, for tedium and last ditch effort, you could open up the iBook G4 and remove
the internal hard disk drive, then put that into an enclosure or use a universal USB
wire kit to access the bare drive via another computer.
Good luck & happy computing! 🙂
Thanks so much for this advice. However, the computer, after working briefly today, has packed it in completely. The battery seems to be dead but the computer is running off the mains supply. I have not used it in several years and when last used would only run off the mains. It does not warrant a new battery but I will keep trying to get it up and running and try to follow your advice and get that disk out delete those files. Thank once again and regards.
There are a few thing you could try, however if you can avoid disassembling the iBook G4
that would be the best option, if you can get the data out and the internal HDD erased...
The guides to show how to take apart (to access internals) for repair from iFixit.com cover
several models over those years the series version(s) were available. Here's the main page
to see the guides for iBook G4, choose the one best suited to your computer build model:
•iBook G4 Repair Guide - iFixit.com:
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/iBook_G4
This could be used to extract the hard disk drive so as to access the bare drive to retrieve
information from it, by use of another computer. There may be issues due to permissions
and privileges relating to ownership of files created under OS X with any retrieved files.
Opening up an older Apple portable computer can be problematic should it ever be expected
to be used again, since damages to other OK components may occur due to this process.
An example of a quality "universal usb drive adapter" can be looked into at this web site:
•NewerTech Universal Drive Adapter USB3.0 (& before, w/ ATA/IDE/SATA) with power supply
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/
You may be able to locate something similar at a computer shop in your area, or nearby.
Since these are backward compatible to older drive types and older USB, and include a
power supply and wires to attach the bare hard drive and access it from a computer, it is
a fair idea and probably one way to go; if you cannot get the computer to boot in FW TDM.
Target Disk Mode can be a good way, since the computer need not boot into its OS, then.
While I have an iBook G4 12-inch that hasn't seen much use, and is essentially stock with
exception of the OS X version was Tiger 10.4 when shipped, now it Leopard 10.5.8; it is
almost new. Of course their batteries were among the short-lived variety; you could hope
to get a year out of an original battery. The OWC company offers a battery that I may get.
If your iBook G4 is a 12-inch 1.33GHz, Last Model like mine, here's the iFixit guide:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Device/iBook_G4_12%22_1.33_GHz
Not sure what your local options are, or if you have a Mac User Group near your area that
may have someone helpful to attempt to get the data out of the computer; perhaps someone
that may be able to help restore its function, or once you are done, take it off your hands(?)
In any event...
Good luck & happy computing! 🙂
Thank you for going to so much trouble with my problem but I'm afraid I cannot get any life out of the computer. When I press the go button it sounds like it is the early stages of starting but the screen remains dead. Regards and thanks once again for your interest in my problem.
The other way to get the information would be to physically extract the computer's
hard disk drive, and use the 'universal USB wire kit' to retrieve your files from the
bare hard drive. This would be a method to access the hard disk drive which does
not require the purchase of an external enclosure for the drive, install it, and then
see if you can access those files. The 'wire kit method' requires no additional work
other than to attach wires to the bare drive once you open up the old iBook G4...
Whereas to buy an enclosure to install the iBook's HDD into, adds another layer.
A good enclosure that could work with ATA/IDE may be hard to find & cost you $.
With the wire kit idea, you can use a disk utility in any computer to wipe that HDD.
So you could take the computer to a shop that specialized in Apple computers and
pay asking fee to open it up so you can try & get your files from the hard disk drive.
From what I've seen, though, they can charge up to $100 per hour. A smart 12 y/o
could probably follow the instructions in the iFixit.com guide for iBook G4, to use
the correct one and do this job fairly easy. Easier if you do not intend on repairing it.
There are a few tools that may be required in order to access various screws, etc.
In any event... hopefully you can get your old files out.
Good luck & happy computing! )
Hi,
Have you also tried starting the computer (connected to the power adapter) with the battery removed? Sometimes, a bad battery can put a heavy load on the power supply.
Otherwise, as K Shaffer already mentioned, opening the iBook and removing the hard drive (to be connected to an external USB-to-ATA drive adapter) is probably the best way in this case. If it is not necessary to gain access to any files on the hard disk prior to wiping, one could also just destroy the drive using a sledgehammer or a power drill.
Jan
Thanks. I tried that and on the first attempt it seemed to be starting up but then died. On the second, third and fourth attempts I got no response at all.
My wife has suggested we hit the computer a lot of times with a hammer and throw it out with the garbage, in the hope it will be so unusable noone will try to read what is on the hard disk. We did that to the last computer we replaced but the hard drive was easier to get at than the iBook and we could did physically extract it. Its always a shame to go this route but very old computers become uneconomical to repair. Perhaps the Apple people could get it up and running but it hardly warrants the cost of a new battery and the labor and possibly other parts that will go into fixing it, especially as it has been replaced several times over by newer models. Regards.
I should have added, if I did not make it clear, we would not mind having this computer as a backup but if we cannot get it up and running we would simply like to erase the files for privacy reasons. Regards.
Since the computer at least tries to start up intermittently, it may be worth checking the power supply as well. Begin by inspecting the cable(s). Any change if you carefully move the cable going to the low-voltage (DC) power plug, or if a little pressure is put onto the plug itself ? One should perhaps not rule out that something has happened inside the DC plug, or that solder joints at the DC-in-jack in the computer have worked loose. The ifixit.com guides, mentioned by K Shaffer, are very informative. With access to the guide for your iBook variant, it should be possible to open the computer without too much difficulty.
Thank you, they are all good thoughts. I did try another lead and adaptor but without effect. It seems to be a problem inside the computer. I think I will surrender to the inevitable and simply abandon it. Regards.
Ohh that will be a shame. I had 3 old iBook G4s of mine that I was using at a Charter school as late as last year. The kids were doing Dubstep on Garage Band with them.(Drove me nuts! But they had fun and that's what's important!)
I had an old external DVD player that was bootable so I could erase and install w/o having to deal with the drive. They can also boot from an external hard drive but that would take FireWire 400.
Thank you to those who responded to my call for help with my iBook G4 problems. I finally managed, when I got the right tools, to dismantle the computer and remove the hard drive. Again, thanks and regards.
How do I permanently erase my files on an iBook G4?