MaryCarolG

Q: Anybody hear of Geek Technical Support? They seemed to know what they were doing, but their business practices were suspicious.

Anybody hear of Geek Technical Support? They seemed to know what they're doing, but I have to question their business practices.

iMac (27-inch, Late 2012), OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Apr 14, 2015 2:10 PM

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Q: Anybody hear of Geek Technical Support? They seemed to know what they were doing, but their business practices were suspicious.

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  • by MaryCarolG,

    MaryCarolG MaryCarolG Apr 15, 2015 8:00 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:00 AM in response to thomas_r.

    What exactly constitutes a secondary backup? (A second time machine?)

     

    Can they do all this at the Apple Store?

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Apr 15, 2015 8:05 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:05 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    I did read through what has been mentioned, but don't think I saw this one. Have that credit card number cancelled immediately and have a new card issued. Either the scammers will try to use it for illegal purchases, or they'll sell the number to any number of other crooks who will.

  • by etresoft,

    etresoft etresoft Apr 15, 2015 8:12 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:12 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    MaryCarolG wrote:

     

    My husband says he will run your program as soon as he finishes the taxes.

    Just post the results here and pretty much anyone can tell if anything looks wrong.

     

    You are correct about the current scams. Plus, there are very few true viruses to implant. The biggest risk are perfectly legitimate programs that can be used to create backdoors. EtreCheck will only report some of these because some of them are built into the operating system. You would have to go to System Preferences > Sharing and make sure everything is turned off. Hopefully the Apple support technician did that.

     

    I don't disagree with what anyone says about erasing the hard drive and reinstalling. Thomas really nails it. It is possible to thoroughly check things out in person, but in the real world it is so much easier to just wipe and restore. But even that may be a challenge for some people and there may not be any nearby support options. Each situation is different and I don't want anyone to risk losing irreplaceable data out of fear that someone else may have accessed it.

     

    Another reason I would like to see the EtreCheck report is because it includes some information about the status of your backups. Before taking a machine in for any kind of service, you should have a good backup. As Thomas pointed out, if you know you are going to need such a backup, the ideal action is to make a secondary backup in addition to Time Machine. And don't forget than any changes you make during this period, like taxes, should be saved somewhere else too. If you wind up restoring your machine to a state from 3 days ago, your tax information could be lost. If you are using some software, make sure to look for an archive feature and save everything somewhere else.

  • by etresoft,

    etresoft etresoft Apr 15, 2015 8:15 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:15 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    MaryCarolG wrote:

     

    What exactly constitutes a secondary backup? (A second time machine?)

     

    Can they do all this at the Apple Store?

    Yes. Time Machine can do that. The hard part is that it requires a second hard drive. The Apple Store does sell those, but you need to have a good backup before you drop off the machine.

     

    This is where you have to balance what you can reasonably do vs. what the scammers might have done and pick something in the middle that you can live with.

  • by thomas_r.,

    thomas_r. thomas_r. Apr 15, 2015 8:16 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:16 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    MaryCarolG wrote:

     

    What exactly constitutes a secondary backup? (A second time machine?)

     

    Can they do all this at the Apple Store?

     

    Buy an external hard drive that is big enough to hold everything on your hard drive with room to spare. You can then use Time Machine to back up to that drive in addition to whatever other drive it is currently backing up to. Maintain the backups on both drives. Alternately (preferably, in my opinion), you can use a different backup program (such as Carbon Copy Cloner) to back up to the second drive. The advantage to this is that, if Time Machine has some kind of malfunction that affects all your backups, it won't affect that one.

     

    My own personal strategy is to use Time Machine to back up to a Time Capsule, and use Carbon Copy Cloner to back up to two other hard drives. One of those drives is at home, the other in my safe deposit box, and every now and then I swap them. Even if there's a fire or theft or some other catastrophe, I still have the copy at the bank.

  • by MaryCarolG,

    MaryCarolG MaryCarolG Apr 15, 2015 8:37 AM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:37 AM in response to Kurt Lang

    Thank you! Done!

  • by MaryCarolG,

    MaryCarolG MaryCarolG Apr 15, 2015 8:38 AM in response to thomas_r.
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:38 AM in response to thomas_r.

    Wow! What a system. My husband is eager to look into it.

  • by Kurt Lang,

    Kurt Lang Kurt Lang Apr 15, 2015 8:48 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:48 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    The major pain of having a card cancelled is that you have to go to all of your online accounts and wherever else to update them to the new number. But better that than unauthorized purchases showing up.

  • by MaryCarolG,

    MaryCarolG MaryCarolG Apr 15, 2015 8:54 AM in response to Kurt Lang
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    Apr 15, 2015 8:54 AM in response to Kurt Lang

    Yes. We've had to do that before when our bank issued everyone new debit cards just as a precaution. It's a pain, but well worth it.

  • by MaryCarolG,

    MaryCarolG MaryCarolG Apr 18, 2015 5:07 AM in response to etresoft
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    Apr 18, 2015 5:07 AM in response to etresoft

    We ran the app just now. Here are the results.


    Problem description:

    Desktop will not let me drag and drop any files.

     

    Also, files from the desktop show through any open windows.

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.1.8 (121)

    Report generated April 18, 2015 at 6:48:09 AM CDT

    Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Hardware Information: ℹ️

        iMac (27-inch, Late 2012) (Technical Specifications)

        iMac - model: iMac13,2

        1 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 4-core

        8 GB RAM Upgradeable

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 0/DIMM1

                Empty  

            BANK 1/DIMM1

                Empty  

        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

     

    Video Information: ℹ️

        NVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX - VRAM: 1024 MB

            iMac 2560 x 1440

     

    System Software: ℹ️

        OS X 10.9.5 (13F34) - Time since boot: 3 days 12:57:54

     

    Disk Information: ℹ️

        APPLE HDD ST1000DM003 disk0 : (1 TB)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (894.52 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

    USB Information: ℹ️

        Apple Inc. MacBook Air SuperDrive

        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

     

    Thunderbolt Information: ℹ️

        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Gatekeeper: ℹ️

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: ℹ️

            /Library/Extensions

        [loaded]    com.logmein.hamachi (1.0.0 - SDK 10.9) [Click for support]

     

            /Users/Shared/Old Files/MAC/Applications/Utilities/DiskWarrior.app

        [not loaded]    com.alsoft.Preview (4.1.1) [Click for support]

     

    Problem System Launch Daemons: ℹ️

        [failed]    com.apple.wdhelper.plist

     

    Launch Agents: ℹ️

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.logmein.hamachimb.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist [Click for support]

     

    Launch Daemons: ℹ️

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist [Click for support]

        [running]    com.logmein.hamachi.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.JavaUpdateHelper.plist [Click for support]

        [loaded]    com.skype.skypeinstaller.plist [Click for support]

     

    User Login Items: ℹ️

        iTunesHelper    Application  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

        Dropbox    Application  (/Applications/Dropbox.app)

        Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector2    Application Hidden (/Library/Printers/Canon/IJScanner/Utilities/Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector2.app)

     

    Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 17.0.0.169 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3

        Flash Player: Version: 17.0.0.169 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        net.juniper.DSSafariExtensions: Version: Unknown [Click for support]

        EPPEX Plugin: Version: 3.0.5.0 [Click for support]

        Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9

        SharePointBrowserPlugin: Version: 14.4.8 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        Silverlight: Version: 5.1.30317.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 8 Update 31 Check version

     

    User internet Plug-ins: ℹ️

        WebEx64: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support]

     

    Safari Extensions: ℹ️

        SocialPlus!

        Facebook Improved

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️

        Flash Player  [Click for support]

        Java  [Click for support]

     

    Time Machine: ℹ️

        Mobile backups: OFF

        Auto backup: YES

        Volumes being backed up:

            Macintosh HD: Disk size: 999.35 GB Disk used: 104.82 GB

        Destinations:

            Data [Network]

            Total size: 2.00 TB

            Total number of backups: 54

            Oldest backup: 2015-01-30 07:25:00 +0000

            Last backup: 2015-04-18 11:17:21 +0000

            Size of backup disk: Adequate

                Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk used 104.82 GB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️

             3%    WindowServer

             0%    fontd

             0%    AppleSpell

             0%    dpd

     

    Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️

        206 MB    WindowServer

        146 MB    softwareupdated

        94 MB    mds_stores

        94 MB    Mail

        77 MB    Safari

     

    Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️

        4.56 GB    Free RAM

        1.32 GB    Active RAM

        1.13 GB    Inactive RAM

        1.16 GB    Wired RAM

        3.79 GB    Page-ins

        42 MB    Page-outs

     

    Diagnostics Information: ℹ️

        Apr 16, 2015, 02:15:47 PM    /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Mail_2015-04-16-141547_[redact ed].crash

  • by etresoft,

    etresoft etresoft Apr 18, 2015 5:35 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Mac OS X
    Apr 18, 2015 5:35 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    Logmein is remote access software. That needs to be removed as soon as possible. See http://help.logmein.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/How-do-I-uninstall-LogMeIn-for-Mac-en 1/?q=Uninstall&l=en_US&fs=Search&pn=1

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 18, 2015 6:40 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    Apr 18, 2015 6:40 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    Logmein, as pointed out is a remote access gateway, remove it entirely.

     

    Frankly I would erase your Mac and reinstall, it is the best way to keep safe.

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Apr 18, 2015 8:19 AM in response to MaryCarolG
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    iPad
    Apr 18, 2015 8:19 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    I'd also question this:

     

    com.logmein.hamachimb

     

    see here:

     

    https://secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi/

     

    as well as a couple of other potential entries.

     

    I'd definitely second the recommendation to wipe your drive and reinstall from scratch as there may be other things hidden somewhere. And only use a backup to restore from a date before you were dealing with these scammers.

  • by kulwinder8207,

    kulwinder8207 kulwinder8207 Mar 30, 2016 10:00 AM in response to MaryCarolG
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Mac OS X
    Mar 30, 2016 10:00 AM in response to MaryCarolG

    hi do want it back

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa Mar 30, 2016 10:04 AM in response to kulwinder8207
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    Mar 30, 2016 10:04 AM in response to kulwinder8207

    ???????

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