It did not seem to be working despite others saying it did.
I tried with several files, one appeared after several attempts, then others several minutes later.
It dawned on me was it exporting with a conversion applied not actually copying the original?
Yes it was - Canon video clip from 5D II within Photos.
The 'copy' dragged to the home folder:
Timestamp changed, reduced resolution and type file.m4v.
Apple TV, Mac OS X (10.4.8)
Noticed this problem today there is no question that original videos should be exported via drag and drop rather than being re-compressed causing loss of meta data, e.g. GPS coordinates. Submitted this as bug 32735027 on Sierra 10.12.5 (16F73) and referenced this forum thread.
Dragging and dropping from iPhoto, Aperture, or Photos will just save the previews to the Desktop or whatever the destination folder is. Only, if the item is small enough and the original master file doubles as the preview, you will get the original when dragging and dropping without holding down the modifier keys.
The real danger is, when you manage to drag and drop the original. We had several reports about modified originals
in the iPhoto or Aperture library, when users dragged images from the photo library to Photoshop. This passed the original master file from the photo library to Photoshop and not a copy. Then saving the changes from Photoshop resulted in modified originils in the photo library.
When in doubt, use always "File > Export > Export unmodified original", and you can be sure that a copy of the original will be exported.
I submitted a bug report that dragging out videos from Photos to Finder causing loss of meta data and an unnecessary re-compress and they replied with the following:
Engineering has determined that this issue behaves as intended based on the following information: Holding option during the drag+drop will export the original.
Affects iPhone video too:
Gee, thanks for re-encoding the file when I didn't want you to!
Users could easily end up archiving a lower res poorer quality version if they didn't notice the change in file size or extension.
I'd be careful dragging anything out of Photos including photos, I haven't checked photos in Photos yet, but dragging from iPhoto caused changes too.
Winston Churchill wrote:
I'd be careful dragging anything out of Photos including photos, I haven't checked photos in Photos yet, but dragging from iPhoto caused changes too.
That perhaps does not surprise me, but I never used drag and drop with iPhoto as I could show the original file in the Finder and would copy from there.
I think it makes sense not to allow users to Show in Finder by default, but an 'advanced' option to enable it would be handy - now you just have to open the package manually and poke around!
Winston Churchill wrote:
I'd be careful dragging anything out of Photos including photos, I haven't checked photos in Photos yet, but dragging from iPhoto caused changes too.
iPhone 6 image - recompressed, smaller file size but same resolution:
Same for non-iPhone images - resolution seems preserved, but re-compressed:
I suppose it's possible this might use a default export option initially - if it would remember the 'last used' (or a default) export setting it might help, though wiser to use Export Unmodified Original.
Exporting the image using JPEG Maximum it gets larger - shame this can't be set to Original, it would save a separate export menu entry.
I just exported using Small size via the menus - tried a drag and drop thinking it might retain previous export size, but got the recompressed full res image.
If it actually remembered last Export settings it might be handy.
Alley_Cat wrote:
I think it makes sense not to allow users to Show in Finder by default, but an 'advanced' option to enable it would be handy - now you just have to open the package manually and poke around!
There is the option to export an unmodified version, I'm not sure anyone has any need to access the masters anymore.
I just exported using Small size via the menus - tried a drag and drop thinking it might retain previous export size, but got the recompressed full res image.
I haven't got around to testing this yet, but dragging and exporting produced 2 different results in iPhoto regardless of the settings..
On the whole though the main purpose of dragging is to use just the photo in another app (or it is 98% of the time for me), so regardless of the metadata or whatever the process loses it probably doesn't matter. For all other purposes it gives me a full set of export options. Dragging a movie is a little different to a photo I feel, I think I'd want to see my export options, but if I did just drag, I believe alt - drag gives you an unmodified version.
Winston Churchill wrote:
Alley_Cat wrote:
I think it makes sense not to allow users to Show in Finder by default, but an 'advanced' option to enable it would be handy - now you just have to open the package manually and poke around!
There is the option to export an unmodified version, I'm not sure anyone has any need to access the masters anymore.
I just exported using Small size via the menus - tried a drag and drop thinking it might retain previous export size, but got the recompressed full res image.I haven't got around to testing this yet, but dragging and exporting produced 2 different results in iPhoto regardless of the settings..
On the whole though the main purpose of dragging is to use just the photo in another app (or it is 98% of the time for me), so regardless of the metadata or whatever the process loses it probably doesn't matter. For all other purposes it gives me a full set of export options. Dragging a movie is a little different to a photo I feel, I think I'd want to see my export options, but if I did just drag, I believe alt - drag gives you an unmodified version.
Brilliant!
I think the alt-drag gives the original for both photos and videos!
I think the alt-drag gives the original for both photos and videos!
I've tried it on both videos and photos and can confirm that you get the originals with an Control/Alt - drag.
AAARGGGHHH!!!!!!
Why would this down-sampling be not obvious! I've just spent the day catching up on cleaning out my Photos, and I've been dragging and dropping files, and then deleting them, only to find out now that I've lost the highest resolution possible.
This ***** b*lls.
There should have been something warning me that Apple has decided the change the meaning of drag and drop. Because, you know, everywhere else in the entire universe, dragging a file means moving it. Not taking a down-sampled version.
So instead, we have to go through the export menu system? Really? Should I go back to an Automator script to just dump Photos to disk so I can trust it!
DIS-FREAKING-LIKE!!!
Beware drag and drop of video to folders or desktop
