humanengr
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Q: The logic of iCloud settings ??

The logic of iCloud settings ??

 

I don't understand how iCloud settings are organized. Can someone please explain? I indicate the confusing aspects below.

 

Tapping iCloud brings up a page titled ‘iCloud' and which is a mix of Apple apps and services. But it’s not clear whether these have anything to do with ’Storage’. If so, I would expect the storage used by each app or service to be indicated.

 

 

Tapping Storage brings up:

 

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Tapping Manage Storage there brings up a mix of Apple and 3rd party apps under the heading “Documents and Data”. But the total is only 110.1 MB, only a part of the 3.3 GB supposedly used.

 

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Tapping iCloud Drive brings up a long mix of Apple and 3rd-party apps, with no indication of storage used.

And there is duplication with the earlier lists:

  • Safari was also in the first list, above -- why is that?
  • Pages and Keynote are also in the second list above -- why??

Numbers is only below but not above.

Why are some 3rd party apps listed here and some on the prior sheet?

And why are these -- a subset of my apps -- the only ones that show in the list? Shouldn’t Apple provide an iCloud storage option for all apps as a basic iOS service?

 

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Tapping Backup brings up:

 

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which has no indication of how much storage Backup is using.

 

Finally, the names and descriptions Apple gives for iCloud, iCloud Drive, and Storage aren’t much help:

 

The iCloud Drive FAQ at https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201104 says: "With iCloud Drive, you can safely store all your presentations, spreadsheets, PDFs, images, and any other kind of document in iCloud."

 

iCloud: What is iCloud? at https://support.apple.com/kb/PH2608?locale=en_US&viewlocale=en_US says: "iCloud gives you access to your music, photos, contacts, calendars, documents, and more from your Mac, iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Windows computer. iCloud stores your content and automatically keeps it up to date on all your devices."

 

Are iCloud, iCloud Drive, and Storage all the same thing? Why different names?

 

Message was edited by: humanengr Added images

iPad Air, iOS 8.1, null

Posted on Apr 15, 2015 12:18 PM

by Csound1,Solvedanswer
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A:

On List 1 you have activated Safari Sync

On List 2 you have given it permission to stare data on the iCloud Drive

Posted on Apr 16, 2015 1:23 PM

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    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 15, 2015 12:12 PM in response to humanengr
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    Apr 15, 2015 12:12 PM in response to humanengr

    iCloud is a collection of online services, storage (inc the iCloud Drive) is one of them. Mail, Contacts, Calendars, Photos etc are some more services.

     

    You can check usage at System Preferences>iCloud>Manage: (bottom left corner)

     

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  • by humanengr,

    humanengr humanengr Apr 16, 2015 12:11 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 16, 2015 12:11 PM in response to Csound1
    > iCloud is a collection of online services …

     

    Thanks -- that's a clearer statement than what I've seen from Apple.

    But I'm still confused by the organization of the settings. For starters:

    1. What is the purpose of the first list? Some items there are services, others are apps.
    2. Given that 'storage' includes Backup, why is Backup not included in iOS settings for Manage Storage?
    3. Why do certain apps appear in multiple lists:

       

        Safari is on both the iCloud and iCloud Drive lists on iOS but only on the iCloud list in MacOS.

        Pages is on Manage Storage and iCloud Drive on both iOS and MacOS.

        Same for Keynote.

        (Numbers is only on iCloud Drive on both iOS and MacOS.)

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 16, 2015 12:45 PM in response to humanengr
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    Apr 16, 2015 12:45 PM in response to humanengr

    2 different devices, 2 different operating systems, things look different.

    Apps only appear in the storage list if you have used them to store something, stop looking for uniformity.

  • by humanengr,

    humanengr humanengr Apr 16, 2015 1:10 PM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 16, 2015 1:10 PM in response to Csound1

    OK re two different systems.

     

    So, just limiting the issue  to iOS, what is the difference between the Safari on the first iCloud list

     

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    and Safari on the iCloud Drive list?

     

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  • by Csound1,Solvedanswer

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 16, 2015 1:23 PM in response to humanengr
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    Apr 16, 2015 1:23 PM in response to humanengr

    On List 1 you have activated Safari Sync

    On List 2 you have given it permission to stare data on the iCloud Drive

  • by humanengr,

    humanengr humanengr Apr 16, 2015 2:35 PM in response to humanengr
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    Apr 16, 2015 2:35 PM in response to humanengr

    That helps -- thanks.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 16, 2015 3:02 PM in response to humanengr
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    Apr 16, 2015 3:02 PM in response to humanengr

    You're welcome