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Q: How do I uninstall photos for mac?

Can't say I am interested in using this program. When I plug an SD card into my iMac via the SD slot or plug in my CF Card reader to import images to my iMac, photos for mac auto opens and wants me to import said content into its library. So I suppose two questions. A) how do I uninstall photos for mac? B) If this is not possible how do I turn off auto prompt to import content every time I mount a disc? First world problem but seriously efs up work flow.

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Posted on Apr 15, 2015 1:49 PM

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  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Jun 26, 2015 10:17 PM in response to siamless
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    Jun 26, 2015 10:17 PM in response to siamless

    Why would you use Image Capture instead of just Importing the Photos and Videos?

     

    GB

  • by siamless,

    siamless siamless Jun 26, 2015 10:31 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Jun 26, 2015 10:31 PM in response to gail from maine

    pls explain the "just import" procedure

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Jun 26, 2015 10:36 PM in response to Hvxley
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    Jun 26, 2015 10:36 PM in response to Hvxley

    Deleted iPhoto long ago. I have image capture, which I use to get photos off of my iPhone when I back it up to my iMac.

     

    The problem with Image Capture is that it does not offer a way to prevent reimporting images you imported previously. When using iPhoto you have the option to only import new images. Presently, I'm using iPhoto as my import engine and I do my photo work with Aperture.

     

    I can't use "Photos" because it does not have the ability to show keywords under thumbnails.

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Jun 26, 2015 11:14 PM in response to siamless
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    Jun 26, 2015 11:14 PM in response to siamless

    When you connect your device to your Mac and open Photos, you should see your device listed under "Import" in the sidebar (click on View>Show Sidebar if you don't see it). Once you click on your device, you will see the "Previously Imported" photos at the top of the Photo area, followed by any new photos to be imported:

     

    Screen Shot 2015-06-27 at 2.12.21 AM.png

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Jun 27, 2015 8:40 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Jun 27, 2015 8:40 AM in response to Ziatron
    The problem with Image Capture is that it does not offer a way to prevent reimporting images you imported previously.

    Actually it does.  Connecting the iPhone, launching IC and then trying to import an early photo into Photos I get this:

    Photos001.jpg

    I get the same if I download the file via IC to a folder on the Desktop and then drag the folder onto the Photos icon in the sidebar.

     

    As a test launch Photos with the Option key held down and create a new, test library.  Import some a few photos via IC from your iPhone, disconnect, close Photos, reconnect the iPhone and IC and and test to see if the same problem persists. Does it?

  • by drmikenyc,

    drmikenyc drmikenyc Jun 27, 2015 9:29 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Jun 27, 2015 9:29 PM in response to Old Toad

    Dear OT - whose responses to queries specific to this I've now read going back quite a ways - and to anyone who may be able to help/advise.

     

    I've followed all the threads and topics and references I can find (precious little from Apple online or from "geniuses" either), but either I'm the only one in the world with this perspective, or it's not been asked and answered

     

    Beginning with the basic of *this* thread: How do I uninstall? I'd summarize the responses as "don't", or go through a tortuous process of uninstalling iPhoto, reinstalling, etc....  "It is what it is", but here is what it is to me, and out of desperation (despite some research skills) come here with my precise context and goal. 

     

    #1 I have learned to love iPhoto upon embracing Mac some years back.

     

    Specifically: My most important reasons for having fully adopted iPhoto:

     

    - Geotagging the images from my iPhone or GPS-enabled devices. Automatic. Seems to me essential. Why have GPS/iPhone tagging otherwise? I am not eager to have lose or forego tens of thousands of useful tags. #1 disgust for the "dumbing down" of Mac & iPhoto to be like a big iPhone. I am a serious photographer, and have used various organizers and use external editors. I have no problem importing from iPhone to iPhotos on any of my machines.My strategy has been to download into the library (raw images, etc.) and then export back the big files I don't immediately need into external storage. I keep "in the library" things I would like to imminently work on, or showcase as edited versions.


    -Events/albums -  Sorry, but again, I want more than a Facebook feed or iPhone stream. I LOVE how I've been able to organize albums easily, and send things from events to albums simply, or recreate events. But more than albums, with several Terrabytes of images I'm managing (only about 500 GB at a time on the Mac, in the library), the MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT for daily use is the organization and ability to find things.  I get dizzy looking at the huge nonstop mosaic of tiles on the iPhone, and seeing it replicated on an rMBP was sort of equally nauseating. But I went with the update and found I still had iPhoto and could ignore the (to me useless) Photos app, and I removed it from the doc.

    QUESTION #1 - I've read and heard the technical (but vague) descriptions of how the one library serves both iPhoto and Photos. So... (sorry to echo months of another thread I followed fruitlessly)  does accepting (but not using) Photos grow the database or add new masters or in some other way bloat my limited SSD space allocated for images? Related:


    QU#2  - If I delete the entire thumbnail collection on Photos, how does that impact what I want to use, iPhotos?  I ask this seriously, as I did a test at first and deleted some selective (blurry, not important) images from Photos, after it imported from iPhoto. In this case the removal from Photos did not effect iPhotos - the thumbnails were still "there" and the masters too. But I've no way of knowing if I'll somehow corrupt a shared library, or if there is any real benefit.


    (Short version, I wish I could just delete or never allow Photos to darken my doorstep in the first place. So far I've succeeded on 1 of 3 devices. The third is hounding me to "update" (haha) to Photos, today or tomorrow. I'd prefer not, but may have no choice.


    QUESTION #3 follows #1&#2.  If I have 500 GB of images on my 1TB Mac HD (as I want it, and with sufficient empty space for apps, docs, etc.), and I allow that blasted Photos to install on my Mac, what will become of the 500 GB of images and library files, etc. now a part of iPhoto?


    LAST, and maybe most important:


    QU#4 - With about a million images "under management" here, but using the Mac as my master editing and viewing station, it is CRITICAL that I be able to use an integrated viewer (as I now use iPhoto to organize, do light edits, and export into storage or a photo editor for serious work). There is no way on earth I could do anything at all without each image being labeled by its image/filename. Everything I've ever used or owned does this - until Photos! At least in the import-from-iPhotos-library step (as I said, I did "upgrade" on my rMBP), what came through was one big stream of photos with no names, and nothing to divide one "album" or even one day from the next. THE most important aspect of iPhoto as a day-to-day organizer - being able to find images, preferable by date, image file, or titles I assign. This is now (with "Photos") just a great big iPhone photo feed, dumbed down from ALL useful functionality in my world of photography, anyway.


    So the question: Can one import from an iPhone or camera into "Photos" on a Mac (Yosemite 10.10.2) along with information about the image, as in its file number at the least? Anyway to separate by date easily for finding or examining individual images?  If not, I cannot find one single thing which "works" any longer, and I too feel betrayed by Apple.  I came into this with Apple being the benchmark for graphics and photography, combined with Jobs' design ease. But elegant design doesn't require "dumbing down to the point of uselessness" and becoming just like a phone app for the selfie-masses...


    Now two of my devices have the awful "Photos" and so add my two hands to the still-unanswered/unanswerable question of "how can I delete it" - while keeping iPhotos? If it takes up no space and leaves my imports to iPhoto alone, ok, that's something. But for me it's not at all a case (as it is for many, as I read) of not really caring or working too much about images. For me it is a significant and important part of my life, and I feel that a serious tool has been yanked away in favor of a toy which "anyone can use". Fine. But I'd like to know if there's any way to avoid Photos *before* it forces me to install it on my 3rd Apple computer, and I sense many would really like an answer to "How can I (or can I) remove Photos.


    In sum: Are we stuck with this, is there anyway to mitigate the space an unused "Photos" will usurp, and aside from another 3rd party app, is there any way within Photos to have the basic functionality of iPhotos - to wit, geo-tagging, file labeling, and ability to maintain longtime "albums" as such, and with the entire "stream" having some way of dividing up into bite sized "events" as iPhoto so splendidly does? Sorry if I've offended anyone, I may be atypical, but I suspect others may be in my shoes as well. With a need for organizational tools, file-names, dates, and places.


    Apologies too if "I should post a new topic", but I don't see an option and every thread I follow (six months or so now) seems to end up "here", more or less, with these issues, non-issues, fixes, and possible workarounds. I truly hope my past half-decade embracing iPhoto and Apple was not mis-placed. Feel free to share with Apple. Photos has a few nice things for some people, but for those who actually use and like and *depend* on iPhoto, this is an awful move away from serious photographers' needs towards being one big happy small-screen tile mosaic which is (in theory) made to share easily. I prefer iPhoto.


    Thank you, thank you, thank you. (First time post, and possibly last, so not to worry - I won't write more tomes.) But Apple: I'm soooooo disappointed!





























  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN Jun 27, 2015 10:04 PM in response to drmikenyc
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    Jun 27, 2015 10:04 PM in response to drmikenyc

    1 - iPhoto and photos do not share a library - they each have their own separate libraries  - they do initially share the same originals and previews using hard links - but there is no connection between the two libraries - no change made to one has any effect on the other - see Photos saves disk space by sharing images with your iPhoto or Aperture libraries - Apple Support

     

    2 - there is no way to "delete thumbnails " in either photos or iPhotos without corrupting the libraries - what exactly are you doing?  and again as note in 1 changes in any library  have no effect on the other one - corrupting or even deleting one does not affect the ohter

     

    3 - they get hard links to the Photos library and take no additional space

     

    4 - too long and tedious and too much editorial to even follow - try to as a concise question with no editorials

     

    Posting a new topic is pretty darn easy - click on the work "NEW" just to the right of the Apple Support Communities banner at the top of the page

     

    LN

  • by drmikenyc,

    drmikenyc drmikenyc Jun 27, 2015 10:26 PM in response to LarryHN
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    Jun 27, 2015 10:26 PM in response to LarryHN

    Thank you much, Larry, for the blazing fast and useful response.
    Sorry, "my bad" (sleep deprived!) for not persisting in looking for "new" - though at this point the topic is not quite, and it does relate directly.

     

    On your point 1 - That's interesting. I was sort of picturing something similar as to the iPhoto/Aperture shared-library model (though they both had at least iPhoto's level of meta-tagging).  Anyway, if they are indeed independent, the library database following install of Photos while keeping iPhotos, then it should have (and I think did) add some actual "weight" to my initial setup, given how *many* masters were involved. Good to know, if I'm understanding you right, that this is only the product of the initial conversion, as unwanted as it was to begin with. Which gets nicely to...

     

    Your point 2. Here, I mis-spoke, or explained poorly. On my rMBP, once I saw how the 2 apps co-existed, I actually deleted the *file* (or maybe from what you've said, the hard-link/alias to the master), flipping through the thumbnails (of PHOTOS) and deleting in the usual iPhoto-like way by highlighting/deleting. I tested with blurry images in case I found deleting from Photos ended up deleting the master/thumb from IPHOTOS.  What I found (in my scientist hat now) was that when I deleted images themselves, and emptied the trash too, what I deleted from Photos was still present in iPhotos. IF in fact I was deleting a redundant set, then (1) there's no danger, theoretically, in my deleting more or all of the mages shown as living within Photos; and (2) unless Photos was using the same thumbnail image and/or master, deleting a second set from Photos might free up some space. Which gets me back to wishing it could just go away and leave me with iPhoto, which for all it's foibles, I've learned to love - and it is useful,  (i

     

    point 3 - "they" (ostensibly including the first duplication of files for Photos, from iPhotoe) - if they don't actually exist anywhere except as ledger links to the same masters, then it doesn't matter what I delete or not, and maybe I'd be best off just removing Photos from the dock and forgetting it exists.

     

    #4 - Yes sir, yes sir, no more editorials. I'm done. Thank you.

     

    Not sure what to expect still, from forcibly having to convert 500 GB of iPhoto images to Photos files, when I can no longer avoid it, but if I have space, and can ignore Photos, and IF iPhone and Photos will somehow do something with my geo-tagging of images, I'll survive. OK, no more context or editorial.

  • by R C-R,

    R C-R R C-R Jun 28, 2015 4:19 AM in response to drmikenyc
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    Jun 28, 2015 4:19 AM in response to drmikenyc

    drmikenyc wrote (in part):

    Beginning with the basic of *this* thread: How do I uninstall? I'd summarize the responses as "don't"...

    The tl;dr reason for that response boils down this:

     

    You cannot "uninstall" Photos. You can only delete or disable it by using hacks suggested by other users. Once you do that, in effect you are relying on them for support for any problems that may cause now & in the future, not Apple. Consider carefully if this is something you really want to do.

  • by TRATRA,

    TRATRA TRATRA Jun 28, 2015 6:06 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Jun 28, 2015 6:06 AM in response to Old Toad

    This is it!

    Thanks OldToad!

    Had already decided to ignore Photos after I had a "test-drive" and didn't like it, but the recurring nagging "welcome, get started" screen everytime I connected my iPhone or iPad was really irritating me.

    My settings were "opens no application", I changed that (in Image Capture! see OldToads post above) to "opens iPhoto.app" and haven't seen the nag screen since.

    BIG THANKS! sorry can't give you any point as I'm not the OP.

    Screen Shot 2015-06-28 at 15.03.50.png

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Jun 28, 2015 9:26 AM in response to drmikenyc
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    Jun 28, 2015 9:26 AM in response to drmikenyc

    #3 - when Photos converts the iPhoto library and creates a new Photos library each library uses the same data on the hard drive for each image file.  So the iPhoto library is essentially untouched and can still be used by iPhoto.  However, and new photos added to both libraries will take up double the space.  From that point on they are separate entities.

     

    #4 - there is a way to get the file names to appear under each thumbnail:  use this Applescript from the Photos for Mac User Tips: Photos for Mac: Batch Changing the Titles to the Filename.

     

    Also the next version of Photos that will be released with El Capitan in the fall will be able to sort by name, date, etc. So keep telling Apple what features you would like to see restored in Photos via https://www.apple.com/feedback/photos.html.


    There are professional DAM (digital asset management) apps that can do exactly what you want with much more control over metadata, filenames, etc.  The one I use is Media Pro 1.  It has a demo version you can try.  There are excellent tutorial videos for the app on YouTube.  There's also a tutorial available on converting an iPhoto library to a MP1 catalog system so keep your iPhoto library until you're sure you won't need it: iP03 - Converting an iPhoto Library to a Media Pro Catalog System.  It can display the GPS coordinates but does not have the map display capability.

  • by drmikenyc,

    drmikenyc drmikenyc Jun 28, 2015 10:40 AM in response to Old Toad
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    Jun 28, 2015 10:40 AM in response to Old Toad

    Thank you Old Toad! Many good suggestions, and you managed to cut through my "too long and tedious" question, and understand the issues and questions - and respond productively!  (It was rather "long and tedious" reading through 100's of posts and not seeing my key issues even acknowledged).

     

    While in my gut I'm feeling "but it was so easy and did everything on its own, and I've mastered it so why blow it all up now, all these features?" - it's comforting to know that there are work-arounds and elegant (3rd party) "upgrades". 

     

    My only remaining question would be whether, if I never touch Photos again, when I now import (post-conversion) say a few GBs of images/videos from an iPhone, or raw files from a camera, will they will henceforth be duplicated into two libraries, and "take up double the space"? (That  could wipe out my free space rather quickly! I'd be back to "how can I tame or remove this Photos beast?")

     

    I'll not get verbose (again), but thank you much Old Toad. (The other threads of yours I've followed closely include those in response to questions of "where the original image is found", etc.) Very helpful indeed, and "supportive". Thanks too R C-R for "getting it" and underscoring the point about "removing".

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Jun 28, 2015 11:08 AM in response to drmikenyc
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    Jun 28, 2015 11:08 AM in response to drmikenyc
    I never touch Photos again, when I now import (post-conversion) say a few GBs of images/videos from an iPhone, or raw files from a camera, will they will henceforth be duplicated into two libraries, and "take up double the space"?

    If you only use iPhoto and import into it you'll not be using up double the space.  As long as you do not have any photos in the Photos library that you don't have in the iPhoto library you can delete the Photos library and continue using just iPhoto.  That will save you some space on your drive but not the full amount that is reported by the Finder.

     

    If at some time in the future you are forced to migrate to Photos again you'll just convert your working iPhoto library to a Photos library. 

  • by siamless,

    siamless siamless Jun 28, 2015 9:10 PM in response to gail from maine
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    Jun 28, 2015 9:10 PM in response to gail from maine

    Thank you for showing the sidebar ;-)

  • by gail from maine,

    gail from maine gail from maine Jun 28, 2015 9:18 PM in response to siamless
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    Jun 28, 2015 9:18 PM in response to siamless

    You are most welcome! It is helpful when you need it

     

    Cheers,

     

    GB

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