Can i still use Eudora. Nothing else.

pjrdegroot wrote:

I want to use my old email programme Eudora.

Can I?

How?

You can run Eudora if you install Snow Leopard Server into a virtualization program, such as Parallels:

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Eudora development appears to have stopped long ago, sometime around Mac OS 10.4 - 10.6. If it requires Rosetta to run you will need to use a Mac with OS 10.6.8 or lower, all newer Mac OS's (10.7 and up) wont be able to run it if that is the case.

Softsonic is showing a OS 10.9 version but the last few pieces of software I DLed from that site were bundled with crapware and from everything I'm reading it's coming up it needs Rosetta which was removed by Apple after 10.6.8

I have to agree with Leroy: If there is an upgrade path or an alternative software product that fits the bill (such as Apple Mail, as discussed by Leroy) that is the preferred avenue to go down!

In the meantime, if you want to try it and continue to use Eudora, the link below will get you started. Just beware that you are using an email program in Snow Leopard (Server). Apple does not appear to release Security Releases for Snow Leopard any more and of course, neither does Eudora. So you are opening yourself to potential security issues being connected to the internet in Snow Leopard and downloading files.

Apple is now selling Snow Leopard Server for $19.99 + sales tax & shipping costs at 1.800.MYAPPLE (1.800.692.7753) - Apple Part Number: MC588Z/A (telephone orders only).

Installing Snow Leopard Server into Parallels 10 for Dummies:

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/installing-snow-leopard-and-rosetta-into-par allels-7-in-lion.1365439/page-23#post-17285039

Good luck and report back!

pjrdegroot wrote:

By the way. Do you have experience with Eudora?

I used the old Eudora for some 15years or so. I looked at all the alternatives. I finally chose to go with the built in Apple Mail.app

It takes a bit to get your head around giving up on the old work horse, but I can not be happier with the mail.app, really it does everything The old Eudora did for me.

Here are a couple old links with some info which may or may not help you.

Re: How to move Eudora to Mail?

Re: Snow Leopard and Eudora?

It does not pay to get too far behind in the software or hardware. I feel like I future proofed my mail client by going with the built-in Mail.app

I feel your pain, there will always be trade-offs.

Do yourself a favor, Woz recommended some time ago Turn of the Junk mail feature in the mail.app and make a one time purchase of the third party spam filtering, SpamSieve, I have been using it for at least 5 years, you will not regret the 99.9% accuracy.

See if this helps:

Mail>Preferences>Accounts>Advanced>automaticly download attachments (this means makes att visible, NOT that the get downloaded into your download folder- that is a manual operation.)

If you are not importing from Eudora into mail then there is not a risk. I backed up and made 2 or 3 import attempts and learned something each time before I pulled the trigger for real. There is some lose in translation like attachments. But for professional reasons my mail goes back to 1998.

I tried many many of the mail clients that are third party offers and they all came up short. It was a huge hurdle to get past the old Eudora ( not the open source.)

good luck !

I agree with your frustration, and desire to go back to Eudora. I gave it up a decade or so ago, for other mail apps that are now extinct, and I too find fighting mail.app a daily source of aggravation. In addition to my usual gripes, this week my mail (from a dozen different accounts for different purposes) has been coming in with a 24-48 hour delay. It shows up in (say) gmail just fine, but while messages trickle into mail.app all day they are yesterday's or the day before's. Enough to make me finally pull the trigger on switching to something else. I have often pondered how good-ol'-Eudora's simple but powerful rules cannot be readily replicated with mail.app.

The list of alternatives at http://www.macworld.com/article/2058525/ditch-maverickss-mail-other-email-apps-y ou-can-try.html includes Eudora OSE (Open Source Edition, built on Mozilla Thunderbird) but I haven't checked to see if this is truly Mavericks/Yosemite compatible.

Good luck! Let us know how it works out.

Whatever it takes i want to learn how to do this. I know nothing about using Parallels or what a Snow Leopard server might be, but if this can be done, i want to do it, and if I can do it successfully, it won't be soon enough if it's tomorrow. I would be soooo happy!!!

i was a Eudora user since my first Mac and first internet in January 1995, it came bundled with software from Earthlink.net. I used it until my previous mac, a Macbook from early 2009 running Snow Leopard, just couldn't function anymore---that was a great computer and i still have it and it still runs, it had no problems until the last few months, but i had to move on, ending up with a MacBook Pro running Mountain Lion. No rosetta, no Eudora. 😟

Eudora did everything i needed. i got a lot of email, i had a lot of mail lists and other categories, and Eudora easily sorted everything correctly. It was so smart. It did a great job handling Spam using SpamSieve. I liked the way Eudora would open the mailboxes that had new mail upon download ("check mail").I could easily see the new mail without having to open it if i didn't want to, then close the mail box and go on to something else. In Apple Mail, there are always little black dots next to mailboxes that have unread mail, and i have no way of knowing if it's new mail or if it's mail i already looked at but didn't open. So i spend a lot of time canceling out those little black dots using Shift/command/U, it's so boring and time consuming.

I have not had a happy transition to the very un-Eudora-like alternatives. I have been using Apple Mail since Fall of last year, about a year. It's a daily grind, misery, so much work, so much manual sorting, Mail can't handle my mail or my mail needs. I have to go through the huge amount of junk mail every day so it won't have those black dots showing new mail, while still making sure that legitimate mail didn't get in with the junk mail as it often does. Mail will do fine sorting my mail as programmed in the Rules for a while, and then suddenly one day, it will put lots of mail from my special mailboxes into my inbox, and then i have to go through it all and go Message>Move and move each one to the right mail box. 😟

Mail has some good features, but for me, being so comfortably adapted to Eudora, i am hating my mail experience, so many things that make my life so much harder and take up so much time, things i used to never have to think about. I tried out that program that is designed to look like and work like Eudora but it simply didn't work, it crashed and had other problems and there was no support.

i always used the free Eudora with ads, but i would pay plenty to anyone who would figure out a way to get a Eudora that works with post-Snow Leopard OSs. I heard that there was a way to do this, and i think it was from Softonic. i downloaded the Eudora installer and decided i would update to Yosemite, which i'm going to do now (i was waiting for a time capsule back up to finish when i started this). Experiences of grief and loss have made me reluctant to make OS changes, until i have enough feedback on new systems. i'm ready now. i just did a google to ask if i can run Eudora on Yosemite and the first link was to this discussion.

Any pointers about where to start and what to do in order to have a Snow Leopard server using Parallels would be very appreciated, but even if not, i will work on figuring it out. thanks

Thank you Leroy, i will read that material tonight. I'm sure it will be helpful. but i've been using Apple Mail for a year now, and i suffer every day, from issues i think are internal to the program, and are not "issues" from the point of view of people who find the program useful, but rather are "features."

for me, Apple Mail doesn't work, for the amount of mail i get, the amount of spam i get, the number of filters i need---apple mail will use my filters for periods of time, and then suddenly dump all my mail into my inbox, so i have to sit there and manually sort each piece of mail into the mailbox they were supposed to go into. Then the next day it will work ok again. It will handle sorting spam into junk mail for a while and then stubbornly change and insist on removing the junk label and putting the junk in my inbox. I just never had anything like this with Eudora. It consistently did what it was supposed to do. i hope that in reading the material at the links you posted, i might find a way to get Apple Mail to also consistently do what it's supposed to do, but my impression is that there is too much mail involved and i have too many filters for what Mail is designed to do.

On one of the links you posted i saw that there was a link to Eudora Email Cleaner, and what that seems to do is to move over your Eudora mail and settings into Apple Mail. I'm not sure whether that will be useful, i will look into it as soon as possible, but because of the switch to Mountain Lion, i had no choice but to begin using one of the non-Eudora programs, so i just chose Apple Mail, and it's been a year now and i have a lot of settings and rules and mail, so i need to find out if i use eudora email cleaner, will that overwrite those settings. i'm not sure that will be a good thing. The world has changed, so i'm not sure how these things will merge, i will find out. But the thing about moving large quantities of mail is what worries me---i do have a huge amount of mail on Eudora, and i don't really need to store it in Apple Mail. It's more the format of Eudora and the way it works without me having to do a lot of manual sorting, and so many other things, that cause me to suffer daily, where email used to be a positive experience (like you are having with Apple Mail. For me, it doesn't seem to work).

Like for example, in Eudora, if i wanted to duplicate a message i'm working on, something i am planning to send (sometimes i want to work on another draft), with Eudora, i could just click on something and a duplicate of what i was working on would come up. i could queue the original and make changes on the new one. i can't find a way to do that in Apple Mail. Instead, i need to copy what i have typed, open a new message, put in the send to address and paste in what i've typed. All these steps instead of clicking on one button.

Another thing that is really frustrating is that in Apple mail, i can't see what my email is going to look like when the receiver opens it. What i mean is, if i attack a couple of photos, Apple Mail just shows the links to the photos. It doesn't show the open photos and how they fit on the page, how they're placed. Even if i send the email to myself and then open it, it doesn't show the photos as they look when the receiver who is not me receives them, as open photos. The one that i receive looks like the one i sent, with incomplete information., but i ask the receiver if the photos are open when they receive them, they say yes. But i can't see how it came out. At least for me, Apple Mail does not want me to see what my email is going to look like.
There are countless things like that. Very frustrating and irritating, and inferior.

Leroy, thanks for the suggestions. I do own SpamSieve, at least i think i do, maybe i always used the free version, i don't remember, i used it for many years with Eudora. When i switched to Mountain Lion, i learned that i could use SpamSieve with Apple Mail, this was after i had done a lot of work on trying to train Apple Mail in what was spam. I downloaded SpamSieve but i never installed it. Resulting from your encouragement, i will do it now. it has been depressing, using Apple Mail. If the junk sorting would improve, that would certainly be helpful. I guess i was so demoralized that i gave up the fight. i had major abdominal surgery shortly after i got the Mountain Lion computer. lol. it seems kind of funny now.

Anyway, i didn't try any other email clients except for Mail Forge, if that is the one that looks like Eudora but doesn't work. Otherwise, i read up on the other ones and looked at the pictures and they looked basically like Apple Mail and not like Eudora so i just stayed with Apple Mail.

Hopefully i can buy the Snow Leopard server tomorrow and get Yosemite installed and use the excellent step by step directions posted by MichaelLAX and get Eudora going again, keeping in mind the security issues.

oakrrraven---that is a long delay, wow. i get some that long once i a while. but the usual delay is shorter than that. Like, earlier, i looked at mail on my iPhone and there was the first reply to my first post here today. i wanted to reply but it's easier to type on the computer so i got my mbp and opened mail. The reply wasn't there. sigh.

i have a problem with one type of email that i know of, i don't know if it's Apple Mail's fault or Gmail's fault. When i fly, i use Southwest Airlines. They send me a flight confirmation email. my main main account is a gmail account. I get that confirmation email. I usually print it up. But by the next day, if not later on the same day, the email is gone. it doesn't come up in a search--i think it's google's fault/gmail because it gets deleted from my iPhone mail too. sigh.

thanks for info about Eudora OSE. i'm ready to try that. Curious. i hope it works and i hope it looks and acts like Eudora, i wasn't sure from the pictures. No support for it. Hopefully it works. i will check it out. Let me know how it works for you. that one to two day delay is very dysfunctional. 😟 to put it mildly.