Sebalex
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Q: ntfs/mbr error while trying to install windows 8. PLEASE help!

Ok so before I explain anything I beg you to PLEASE not tell me I haven't read/searched enough for this because I'm already very close to throwing my macbook pro down the window and regretting it after a second!

 

Here's what's happening:

I have a Macbook Pro late 2011 (15 inch).

 

-I downloaded and prepared a USB bootable Windows 8 file.

 

-I used bootcamp assistant to create a new partition

 

When I turn on my laptop pressing the ALT key and choose to boot from eh EFI USB partition. I get asked to install Windows 8 and write down the product code.

 

Now, here's when it gets annoying:

 

1) I get the error saying that I cannot choose that partition because it's not an NTFS formatted partition.

  •     There's NO advanced options link on the bottom right corner. However, I can clearly see the Format button and when I choose the Partition and click format I get a new error saying ''Windows cannot be installed to this disk. the selected disk has an MBR partition table.''

 

So, I downloaded a software that formats the partition to NTFS using Disk Utility. However, when I restart, I will get the ''MBR..'' error again.

 

2) Concerning this second error (in case it was finally NTFS), I found another solution and that's the procedure of clicking ''SHIFT + F10'', choosing the partition disk from there and manually converting it to GBT or what ever that was.

Problem: When I manually type ''list disk'', there's only ONE partition showing as 495 GB (my laptop is 500gb) which obviously means that I'm not going to choose that and convert it to anything because it's the whole hard disk and not the bootcamp partition.

I closed the window and continued to see if I had forgotten to do the partitioning well, but once I got to the installation, my bootcamp partition was there in the partition windows, still giving me an error for MBR partition table.

 

So, please, I've restarted my laptop 50 times so far trying different ways to fix this, I've erased, formatted and divided the hard disk 1000 times and if I'm not mistaken that's really not something you wanna keep on doing to your laptop.

 

ANY help will be appreciated.

 

Thank you in advance!

 

invisible hugs to anyone who wants to help me.

MacBook Pro (15-inch Early 2011)

Posted on Apr 19, 2015 5:26 AM

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Q: ntfs/mbr error while trying to install windows 8. PLEASE help!

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  • by Loner T,Helpful

    Loner T Loner T Apr 19, 2015 6:54 AM in response to Sebalex
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    Apr 19, 2015 6:54 AM in response to Sebalex

    1. Your Mac does not support EFI, so do not use EFI boot.

    2. Using Alt/Option to interrupt BCA installation is a bad idea.

    3. You should allow BCA to partition and install. You do not need any third party software.

    4. BCA partitions the disk as FAT and Windows will format it as NTFS. The reason the installer may not find a partition is because a MBR tells the installer to use BIOS, while the Alt is telling it to use EFI.

     

    Please see https://help.apple.com/bootcamp/mac/5.0/help/  for reference.

  • by Sebalex,

    Sebalex Sebalex Apr 19, 2015 6:54 AM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 19, 2015 6:54 AM in response to Loner T

    Hey Loner T!

     

    Thank you for your time.

    What do you mean when you say I'm interrupting BCA installation by using the Alt/Option button?

     

    To just give more details: I have created the USB bootable disk separately, and the Bootcamp files also separately. I'm not using all of BCA at the same time to do this. I'm only using it to do the last part which is creating the partition. Anyway, should I format my USB (1 for windows ISO and 1 for bootcamp files) and do it all together at the same time? Download all windows files all over again?

     

    Thank you

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 19, 2015 7:04 AM in response to Sebalex
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    Apr 19, 2015 7:04 AM in response to Sebalex

    My recommendation is to use BCA. You will have far fewer issues. If you have a non-standard disk partitioning need, then it becomes a different discussion. Please ensure that use only USB2 flash drives. No external storage should be connected to the Mac when you install Windows.

     

    How to install Windows using Boot Camp - Apple Support

  • by Sebalex,

    Sebalex Sebalex Apr 19, 2015 7:46 AM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 19, 2015 7:46 AM in response to Loner T

    Well, I'm using a JetFlash Transcend 32GB Media USB.

     

    Anyway, I just used BCA for the whole process. Once it downloaded the Windows files, did the partition and restarted by itself, there was a black screen with a message: '' No Bootable device, insert boot disk and press any key''.

     

    This is the 3rd time that happens, and if I restart and click alt/option to choose the bootable USB, I get back to all the problems I mentioned in the first explanation... This ***** because I have a job offer and I need to work on something as soon as possible using windows. Thanks a lot for your time and help!

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 19, 2015 7:58 AM in response to Sebalex
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    Apr 19, 2015 7:58 AM in response to Sebalex

    Can you verify that the USB is a USB2 device? Here is an example.

     

    Bootcamp-Wininstall-USB.png

  • by Sebalex,

    Sebalex Sebalex Apr 19, 2015 8:36 AM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 19, 2015 8:36 AM in response to Loner T

    Screen Shot 2015-04-19 at 5.33.16 pm.png

    Just took this screen shot of it.

    I changed the USB from the 32GB one to this (8GB) and tried all over again. Deleted all partitions, used BCA to prepare bootable USB, divide hard disk to 2 and restart. Got the same message of '' No Bootable device, insert boot disk and press any key''.

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 19, 2015 8:52 AM in response to Sebalex
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    Apr 19, 2015 8:52 AM in response to Sebalex

    I assume you have not modified you Bootcamp Info.plist.

     

    1. Remove partition using BCA (only). Run DU Disk Repair.

    2. Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC) on your Mac - Apple Support

    3. How to Reset NVRAM on your Mac - Apple Support

    4. Try BCA again.

     

    Every failed installation leaves contents in NVRAM, that are not meaningful anymore.

  • by Sebalex,

    Sebalex Sebalex Apr 19, 2015 1:33 PM in response to Loner T
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    Apr 19, 2015 1:33 PM in response to Loner T

    Thanks again.

     

    I did all the steps you mentioned. Didn't work.

     

    I had modified the bootcamp info.plist file to be able to prepare the USB separately, I had done this step last year and had no problem back then, also it works for so many people so I don't know why not for me. Anyway, I modified it back to how it was originally... and well, unfortunately still not working.

     

    When BCA restarts by itself after all the steps, I get the no bootable device message. And if I open it using the alt/option key which works fine, I get stuck at the step where I can format the partition to NTFS but I get the error mentioning the MBR partition table...

  • by Loner T,

    Loner T Loner T Apr 19, 2015 2:39 PM in response to Sebalex
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    Apr 19, 2015 2:39 PM in response to Sebalex

    Sebalex wrote:

     

    I had modified the bootcamp info.plist file to be able to prepare the USB separately, I had done this step last year and had no problem back then, also it works for so many people so I don't know why not for me. Anyway, I modified it back to how it was originally... and well, unfortunately still not working.

    This will not work, as you have already found out. BCA sets the NVRAM based on Model Identifier to boot from the Optical drive for Macs that are supposed to have built-in Optical drives. It works for people because there are a few select models which support both, for example my 13-in 2012 MBP. It is an urban myth that it works. What is the issue with your Optical drive? Did you codesign it properly (you need the --deep qualifier)?

     

    The only resolution I know of, is to re-install OS X to get the BCA package back, if it does not work - OS X: About OS X Recovery - Apple Support.

    When BCA restarts by itself after all the steps, I get the no bootable device message. And if I open it using the alt/option key which works fine, I get stuck at the step where I can format the partition to NTFS but I get the error mentioning the MBR partition table...

    It is expecting to boot from a DVD in the Optical drive. Please try the DVD method. Make sure you reset NVRAM and SMC. If necessary, delete the current partition using BCA only, and start over again.