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Q: Messages not working (automatically quits on opening)

Messages (7.0.1) is not working (automatically quits on opening) on my desktop 2 x 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Mac running OSX 10.8.5. I get notifications of new messages (via Notifications app I assume) but every time I try to open Messages, it quits on launch with the Problem Report dialogue window

Mac Pro, OS X Server

Posted on Apr 28, 2015 12:21 PM

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  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Apr 29, 2015 8:58 AM in response to dubtastic
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    Apr 29, 2015 8:58 AM in response to dubtastic

    Do a backup.


    Quit the application.


    Go to Finder and select your user/home folder. With that Finder window as the front window, either select Finder/View/Show View options or go command - J.  When the View options opens, check ’Show Library Folder’. That should make your user library folder visible in your user/home folder.  Select Library. Then go to Preferences/com.apple.iChat.plist. Move the .plist to your desktop.

     

    Restart the computer, open the application and test. If it works okay, delete the plist from the desktop.


    If the application is the same, return the .plist to where you got it from, overwriting the newer one.


    Thanks to leonie for some information contained in this.

     

    If that doesn't work:

     

    Console post see first post by Linc Davis

     

    Kernel Panic Log

     

    If the log won’t post, try posting it here and provide a link in a reply       Pastebin

  • by dubtastic,

    dubtastic dubtastic Apr 30, 2015 3:21 AM in response to Eric Root
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    Apr 30, 2015 3:21 AM in response to Eric Root

    Thanks, I tried removing the reference file, but it still has the same problem. If it helps, this is from the problem report message;

     

    Process:         Messages [345]

    Path:            /Applications/Messages.app/Contents/MacOS/Messages

    Identifier:      com.apple.iChat

    Version:         7.0.1 (3322)

    Build Info:      iChat-3321000000000000~4

    Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)

    Parent Process:  launchd [153]

    User ID:         501

     

     

    Date/Time:       2015-04-30 11:17:49.104 +0100

    OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.8.5 (12F2518)

    Report Version:  10

     

     

    Interval Since Last Report:          21831 sec

    Crashes Since Last Report:           8

    Per-App Interval Since Last Report:  18 sec

    Per-App Crashes Since Last Report:   8

    Anonymous UUID:                      4983EF0A-B0CE-6531-B7E4-BDB84F77E769

     

     

    Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

     

     

    Exception Type:  EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)

    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000

     

     

    Application Specific Information:

    *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: 'NSConcreteMutableAttributedString addAttribute:value:range:: nil value'

    terminate called throwing an exception

    abort() called

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 2, 2015 1:56 PM in response to dubtastic
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    May 2, 2015 1:56 PM in response to dubtastic

    Hi,

     

    Check the Contacts app.

    Use the Card Menu > Show the My Card and check this is your details.

     

    If it does not appear to be the Contacts App (Formerly the Address Book) then open the Font Book app and check that the AppleGothic font (it is all one word) is present, Enabled, Validates (File Menu) and not Duplicated  (The Font is near the bottom of the list when using Font Book).

     

     

     

     

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    9:56 pm      Saturday; May 2, 2015

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by dubtastic,

    dubtastic dubtastic May 2, 2015 3:10 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 2, 2015 3:10 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Thanks Ralph, thanks for your help. I checked and adjusted this, but unfortunately still no difference. If fonts are a possible issue, I’m using Suitcase Font Fusion 5 if that makes any difference?

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 3, 2015 12:11 PM in response to dubtastic
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    May 3, 2015 12:11 PM in response to dubtastic

    Hi,

     

    Using multiple Font apps can be an issue but not always.

    You still need to check the Font involved.

     

     

     

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    8:11 pm      Sunday; May 3, 2015

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by dubtastic,

    dubtastic dubtastic May 11, 2015 8:04 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 11, 2015 8:04 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Checked and AppleGothic seems OK, unlike messages

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 11, 2015 11:50 AM in response to dubtastic
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    May 11, 2015 11:50 AM in response to dubtastic

    Hi,

     

    How long ago did you update to OS X 10.8.2 or later (it lists 10.8.5 above)

    If this was from OS  X 10.8.1 or lower then is the Serial Number present ?

    Use the Apple Icon Menu > About this Mac.

    In the new panel click twice on the line that tell you the current OS level.  It will change to the Build number (another way apple counts the versions) and the second click should reveal the Serial Number.

     

    If the Number is not present then the app cannot create the Auth key that is kept in the Keychain and then cannot login.

     

    If it is missing you have to visit and Apple Store and have them put it back.

    It can get missed if the mother/Logic board had been replaced during repair or refurbishment.

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    7:50 pm      Monday; May 11, 2015

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by dubtastic,

    dubtastic dubtastic May 11, 2015 12:25 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 11, 2015 12:25 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    I had to do a rebuild/reinstall some months ago now, but I’ve just checked and the serial number is there…

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 11, 2015 1:13 PM in response to dubtastic
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    May 11, 2015 1:13 PM in response to dubtastic

    hi,

     

    On the 2nd I suggested two things.

    I can't see a response for checking the Contacts App and the My Card.

     

     

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    9:13 pm      Monday; May 11, 2015

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by dubtastic,

    dubtastic dubtastic May 11, 2015 2:44 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 11, 2015 2:44 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Apologies, yes, I checked that and it was ok as well…

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 12, 2015 12:09 PM in response to dubtastic
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    May 12, 2015 12:09 PM in response to dubtastic

    Hi,

     

    This bit is the key

     

    Application Specific Information:

    *** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: 'NSConcreteMutableAttributedString addAttribute:value:range:: nil value'

    terminate called throwing an exception

    abort() called

     

    It is looking for some info but the result is nil when it should not be.

     

    Missing or incorrect My card info from the Contacts app is favourite with the missing or inactive Font (AppleGothic) being a close second in Messages (as compared to iChat).

     

    From my website on iChat there is this section http://www.ralphjohns.co.uk/page13.html#fonts

    To Quote

     

    ...NSInvalidArgumentException: NSConcreteMutableAttributedString addAttribute:value:range:: nil value

     

    So we will have to look at other Fonts that Messages uses.

     

    Open Font Book again and check you have Helvetica Neue as the Active, Validated version of the Helvetica type fonts.

    This trends to the the System Font that HAS to be there for many apps to actually function.  (AppleGothic is involved in the iMessages Registration and Login process).

    Also check Lucida Grande.  This is used to display the names of Groups in the Buddy list and is needed even if you don't display Buddy Lists.

     

     

    I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.

     

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    8:09 pm      Tuesday; May 12, 2015

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by dubtastic,

    dubtastic dubtastic May 14, 2015 4:24 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 14, 2015 4:24 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    My Card and fonts seem OK? Can I rebuild My Card in any way? I’m running a minimal set of system fonts as recommended by Suitcase, so maybe this is the issue? I’m running;

     

    AppleGothic.ttf

    AppleSDGothicNeo-Bold.otf

    AppleSDGothicNeo-Regular.otf

    Geneva.dfont

    Helvetica.dfont

    HelveticaNeue.dfont

    HelveticaNeueDeskUI.ttc

    Keyboard.ttf

    LastResort.ttf

    LucidaGrande.ttc

    Monaco.dfont

     

    Thanks for all your help/advice BTW Ralp!

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),Helpful

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) May 14, 2015 12:46 PM in response to dubtastic
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    May 14, 2015 12:46 PM in response to dubtastic

    Humm,

     

    The list of Fonts I have in the System/Library/Fonts folder is a lot more extensive than that.

    Screen Shot 2015-05-14 at 20.36.14.png

    I had to more the DOCK to get the whole lot in one window.

    Some of them are for Chinese and other languages (AppleGothic is used for it's Korean characters)

     

    Using Suitcase  might be ignoring Fonts that are not in the System folder but are used by various Apps (AppleGothic is in this group).

    Technically they should be so called "System Fonts" but they are not in the "Correct" place.

     

    The Contacts app does not tend to loose a Card.

    What it does do in some cases is change the My Card to another card's details and not yours.  (I.e. your card should still be in there and the when you find it and have it selected the Card Menu allow you to change it with "Make this My Card"

     

     

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    8:46 pm      Thursday; May 14, 2015

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     Couple of iPhones and an iPad
  • by dubtastic,Helpful

    dubtastic dubtastic May 16, 2015 5:51 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    May 16, 2015 5:51 AM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    I kept a back up of the original system folder fonts, and have restored that and it seems to have done the trick at the moment, so many thanks for your help Ralph Not sure which of the extra fonts was the one needed, but it’s in there somewhere!

     

    original system folder fonts…

     

    Apple Braille Outline 6 Dot.ttf

    Apple Braille Outline 8 Dot.ttf

    Apple Braille Pinpoint 6 Dot.ttf

    Apple Braille Pinpoint 8 Dot.ttf

    Apple Braille.ttf

    Apple Color Emoji.ttf

    Apple Symbols.ttf

    AppleSDGothicNeo-Bold.otf

    AppleSDGothicNeo-Regular.otf

    AquaKana.ttc

    Courier.dfont

    Geeza Pro Bold.ttf

    Geeza Pro.ttf

    Geneva.dfont

    HelveLTMM

    Helvetica LT MM

    Helvetica.dfont

    HelveticaNeue.dfont

    HelveticaNeueDeskUI.ttc

    Keyboard.ttf

    LastResort.ttf

    LucidaGrande.ttc

    MarkerFelt.ttc

    Menlo.ttc

    Monaco.dfont

    Noteworthy.ttc

    STHeiti Light.ttc

    STHeiti Medium.ttc

    Symbol.ttf

    Thonburi.ttf

    ThonburiBold.ttf

    Times LT MM

    Times.dfont

    TimesLTMM

    ZapfDingbats.ttf

    ヒラギノ明朝 ProN W3.otf

    ヒラギノ明朝 ProN W6.otf

    ヒラギノ角ゴ ProN W3.otf

    ヒラギノ角ゴ ProN W6.otf

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