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Q: apple watch workout is way off on calories

I've used the apple watch workout app and the approximate calories burned is way off from what it should be. Is there any way to calibrate it so it will be more accurate? It shows only about half the calories burned that I know it should be.

Posted on Apr 28, 2015 11:25 PM

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  • by arsook,

    arsook arsook May 20, 2015 7:19 AM in response to Gerard Harbison
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    May 20, 2015 7:19 AM in response to Gerard Harbison

    Please go to https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch.html to report this problem.

    If Apple gets enough people writing in they will address this in a software update sooner rather than later.

  • by Gerard Harbison,

    Gerard Harbison Gerard Harbison May 20, 2015 7:42 AM in response to arsook
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    May 20, 2015 7:42 AM in response to arsook

    I just did. Thanks!

  • by gmizzell,

    gmizzell gmizzell May 30, 2015 8:56 AM in response to poolmanrob
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    May 30, 2015 8:56 AM in response to poolmanrob

    No, I have to disagree - the app is way off and I have watched the videos and I can't find any way to tell the watch what my weight or age is so it can get better.  Apple could substantially improve the app if it let us enter basic setup info and if we could tell it what we are doing.  When I am on my leg press machine it has no idea what I am doing so there is not a way it can be accurate.  When it summed my resting and working calories the total was still only 1/3 of the real total.  I am 58 and weigh 195 and my workout is 1 hour up a 12% incline on a Woodway treadmill at 4.4 mph.  That definitely burns more than the 140 calories that the app shows.  The pulse rate is right and it matched the woodway at 150-160 throughout the workout.  I am looking for a much better app.

  • by brianfromidaho falls,

    brianfromidaho falls brianfromidaho falls May 31, 2015 11:51 AM in response to poolmanrob
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    May 31, 2015 11:51 AM in response to poolmanrob

    I too have to weigh in here.  The not only the active calories calculated from activities but also the resting calories are WAYYYY off.

     

    I am a personal trainer at a gym.  My gym's primary focus is on body composition and driving biometric data and comosition results.  I regularly measure not only my weight, but also my lean muscle mass and body fat percentage using Valhalla scales.  The workout app calculates my caloric burn at about 50% of what actual is.  It appears to give no credit for intensity level of the workout.  Here is an exact example:  today I did a brisk walk outside with my husband for 36 minutes at 4 Mph.  I then did another 30 minutes on a treadmill at 15% incline for 30 minutes at 3.2 Mph.  The watch's total calculations for the outdoor walk were 297 with average heart rate of 97.  The watch's calculations for the indoor "hike" was 229 with an average heart rate of 134.  My actual calorie burn for my indoor walk was 338.  It cannot calculate certain activities correctly.  Furthermore, you cannot edit or adjust the workouts to teach it the correct burn.  This needs adjustments.

     

    Meanwhile, most days it says I am burning a total of 3500-4500 calories and I just barely hit my move goal of 750.  That is ridiculous and I am not burning anywhere near that number of total calories.  If that was the case, my 1500 calorie deficit would either have lost me 5-10 lbs or put me in the hospital from mal nourishment.  Until then, at minimum, this thing could allow me to adjust my move goal on the fly because expecting me to run a 10K everyday in addition to my weight lifting is unreasonable and unhealthy.

  • by corrinna,

    corrinna corrinna Jun 4, 2015 5:18 AM in response to Hlane2281
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    Jun 4, 2015 5:18 AM in response to Hlane2281

    I too find the Apple watch to be under counting the calories burned on a high intensity elliptical workout. I have used the Polar FT80 with chest heart rate monitor and it calculates my calories burned to be 559 for 50 minutes (last workout0 whereas my Apple watch calculated 350.

     

    My Polar FT80 has a fitness test and resting heart rate test so i believe this to be more accurate. Even when i look at total calories burned on the Apple Watch it is still way under.

     

    The Apple Watch also jumps when monitoring my heart rate, it can go from 90 to 152 then down to 50 - during a strength training workout whereas my FT80 continuously monitors my heart rate accurately - any advise?

     

    Also, Apple need to add more workouts, e.g. for strength training as all you can enter is "other" which it says it is similar to a walk!! NOT

     

    I am NOT happy about this.

     

    Corry

  • by gmizzell,

    gmizzell gmizzell Jun 4, 2015 9:06 PM in response to gmizzell
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    Jun 4, 2015 9:06 PM in response to gmizzell

    Just a quick update on mine - it has been getting better.  Last night I walked 4.25 miles on the Woodway and the "watch" recorded 3.2 which is a good improvement from the 1.4 miles to 4.2 miles the night before.  One thing Apple needs to do is let the developers who are really smart have direct control of the instruments.  I have an iPhone app that uses the built in microphone to listen to my heart and determine blood pressure without a cuff.  So yes there are other programmers who will make sure this is an amazing tool for the future.

     

    Interestingly, now as we look back at Apple and a lot of their start in this type of product direction started with Apple Super bowl ad showing how everyone was mindless and just doing what IBM to their customers back then and now here we are and apple has all of us standing in lines to get our next Apple device and Apple has decided what we can have and not have and what we can do and not do with our Apple products.  There are a LOT of similarities.  Maybe next year IBM will redo the ad and show Apple as the one with all us mindless drones just taking what they give us:)

     

    I really would like to turn the fitness apps over to people that are a lot better at it.  Just making the graphics look different is NOT the same as employing different strategies on the instruments.

  • by A.D. Jankowicz,

    A.D. Jankowicz A.D. Jankowicz Jun 9, 2015 6:52 AM in response to poolmanrob
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    Jun 9, 2015 6:52 AM in response to poolmanrob

    Good to see this thread, since I was very puzzled that the Watch shows just Active calories during a run, reports Active and Resting Calories when the run is complete, and forwards the total of both (I think!) to the Health app on my iPhone, where it appears on the Active Calories graph!

     

    Query: Resting Calories on the iPhone reports 'No Data'! How do I get it to report the Resting Calories figure taken off the Watch? (When I ask it to Share Data it doesn't show any apps to connect to.)

     

    Second Query: How do I get the iPhone to report JUST the Active Calories figure off the Watch on its Active Calories graph?

     

    Third Query: Why oh why does the iPhone Health app keep all the calorie readings it receives from the Watch? Thousands of them! (Try it for yourself: Click on the Active Calories display, choose 'Show all data', and... wait till they all download. Surely all that's necessary is a running total to put onto the display? Is this filling up my iPhone memory?

     

    I asked an Apple Support chap all this and he was immensely emabarassed, and said he'd pass my query on to the people who write the software...

  • by neramike,

    neramike neramike Jun 10, 2015 11:04 AM in response to poolmanrob
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    Jun 10, 2015 11:04 AM in response to poolmanrob

    It's  off for me as well, but I know it is off because I'm using a power meter and am directly measuring the amount of work done.  My ride this morning reported 576 kJ of work, which is approximately 576 kcal.  Apple watch reported 440.  Average heart rate and speed are close and differ probably because of timing issues (I missed starting the garmin for the first 30 seconds) and the garmin omitting time stopped from average speed.

     

    Mike

  • by a2dl,

    a2dl a2dl Jun 12, 2015 6:42 PM in response to poolmanrob
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    Jun 12, 2015 6:42 PM in response to poolmanrob

    Spinning is regularly off, despite efforts at calibration.  30 minutes of medium intensity (half the time out of the saddle) registers anywhere between 170 and 190 calories for me, a 150lb man getting upwards of 170bpm.

  • by Carole250,

    Carole250 Carole250 Jun 13, 2015 7:55 AM in response to poolmanrob
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    Jun 13, 2015 7:55 AM in response to poolmanrob

    I agree that the calories are way off, even combining resting and workout calories--especially using the "other category".  I do a lot of resistance training and zumba classes and the calorie data I receive is a joke.  This feature was one of the ones I was super excited about when I purchased the watch and I'm pretty disappointed. 

     

    I have calibrated my watch and I wear it as snug as I can stand it.  I don't have tattoos.

  • by arsook,

    arsook arsook Jun 13, 2015 8:36 AM in response to Carole250
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    Jun 13, 2015 8:36 AM in response to Carole250

    I finally took a very short run using both my watch and my iphone which was connected to my Digifit app and HRM.  Amazingly, the calorie count was within 10 calories of each other.

     

    The only thing about the watch that was irritating is it told me my pace was a minute and half slower than my Digifit app. I am slow enough and somewhat lazy so I like to watch my pace when I run because I tend to keep slowing down.  Most likely if I had just used the watch and paired it with my phone it would have given the correct pace.  But I am addicted to the graphs and data coming from Digifit, which has not yet come out with an apple watch app.

     

    Of course apple tracker gave me almost 3400 calories burned for the day because the resting calories are over 2000!  What a joke!  My doctor could not believe that apple would be that irresponsible and give such an inaccurate calorie count.

  • by PGLEEDS,

    PGLEEDS PGLEEDS Jun 14, 2015 3:13 PM in response to poolmanrob
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    Jun 14, 2015 3:13 PM in response to poolmanrob

    Hi All - 3rd day with my Apple Watch and first time I went out for an outdoor run with it to calibrate it and like a lot of others, my actual calories were way off. I also used strava at the same time to see how the calculations between the 2 compare and here's what happened:

     

    Strava - 4.6m, 850 cals

    Apple Watch Activity (Outdoor Run) - 4.48m, Active Cals 492 (Total 591)....so a variance of -259 calories and -0.12 miles.

     

    Must say, the distance measurement was close enough and much better than the indoor run I did yesterday - ran 6.6 miles on the treadmill and watch only measured 4.5m! Calories were also way off!

     

    I'm hoping as the "watch gets to know me" , the measurements will get better, if not, I have just wasted over £300 as I did buy the watch with the primary aim of using it as a fitness tracker.

  • by G3gator,

    G3gator G3gator Jun 14, 2015 3:26 PM in response to PGLEEDS
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    Jun 14, 2015 3:26 PM in response to PGLEEDS

    I don't think you wasted £300. But, it is currently not accurate in calorie count. This, I am confident, is software that can, and will, be fixed. Soon, I hope.

     

    George

  • by neramike,

    neramike neramike Jun 14, 2015 4:35 PM in response to PGLEEDS
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    Jun 14, 2015 4:35 PM in response to PGLEEDS

    This may be impolite, but why do you think Strava is the benchmark to evaluate it against?  The issue with measuring calories running is it is difficult to estimate the amount of work done -- doing so requires a metabolic analyzer.  All devices (including a treadmill) make estimates of work, but they all are approximations and only as good as the data that goes into the algorithms.  http://greatist.com/fitness/do-calorie-monitors-really-work

  • by SirSatish,

    SirSatish SirSatish Jul 8, 2015 6:57 PM in response to terryfromnew orleans
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    Jul 8, 2015 6:57 PM in response to terryfromnew orleans

    I have also found that the BMR is way off.  Based on my height, weight, sex, it should be about 1500.  Apple watch gives me 2570 resting calories per day... no way!  Also, I am getting 500-600 active calories for 1.5 hours of yoga, recorded as "Other" with average heart rate of 76bpm???  I would think that with the heart rate monitor, you should be able to get a pretty accurate estimate of calories burnt.  Calories for some some the built in activities like Outdoor Walk, Elliptical, etc. are pretty accurate.

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