Raymon

Q: Msg. appears: "Problem detected with the font - in the font file $C.  quit all apps. and remove this font file ...

Recently while browsing with TenFourFox 31.6.0 or reading an email in Thunderbird 3.1.20 with my PPC MacG4 with OSX 10.4.11,the above message pops in "  ... a problem has been detected with the font -, in the font file $C quit all applications and remove this font file or replace it with a new version". I don't know where to start, not ever having seen this message.  :-))  Any suggestions much appreciated. Thanks.

-- Raymon

G4 933 MHz "2002 Quicksilver", 1.54 GB RAM, two 160 GB HD,, Mac OS X (10.4.11), iLife'06, LaCie d2 burner, 320 GB FreeAgent|Go Portable HD

Posted on May 2, 2015 5:03 PM

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Q: Msg. appears: "Problem detected with the font - in the font file $C.  quit all apps. and remove this font file ...

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  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua May 2, 2015 5:44 PM in response to Raymon
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    May 2, 2015 5:44 PM in response to Raymon

    Hi Raymon, it sounds like file corruption, I doubt there is a real font file called that.

     

    Safe Boot, (holding Shift key down at bootup), run Disk Utility in Applications>Utilities, then highlight your drive, click on Repair Permissions, reboot when it completes.

     

    (Safe boot may stay on the gray radian for a long time, let it go, it's trying to repair the Hard Drive & clear caches.)

     

    If still no change after a regular boot, then open Font Book in Applications & see if you can find it there, or have Font Book Validate all fonts.

  • by Raymon,

    Raymon Raymon May 3, 2015 9:59 AM in response to BDAqua
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    May 3, 2015 9:59 AM in response to BDAqua

    Hello, BDAqua.

     

    Thank you! I'll be trying out your very clear suggestion sometime soon.

    And of course, I did also receive your suggestion at my email address. However, so far, I've also received from you email meant for three posters from the Legacy Networking Community. Am not sure what, if any, I can do on my end.

  • by Raymon,

    Raymon Raymon May 3, 2015 10:14 AM in response to BDAqua
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    May 3, 2015 10:14 AM in response to BDAqua

    Sorry,

    A duplicate reply.

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua May 3, 2015 11:15 AM in response to Raymon
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    May 3, 2015 11:15 AM in response to Raymon

    Am not sure what, if any, I can do on my end.

    Hmmm, you mean they were meant for someone else & Apple mailed it to you???

  • by Raymon,

    Raymon Raymon May 12, 2015 12:33 PM in response to BDAqua
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    May 12, 2015 12:33 PM in response to BDAqua

    Hello, BDAqua!

     

    Finally! I did follow all your instructions -- from the Safe Boot, to Repair Permissions, to a reboot at the end. Still had the Bad Font alert!

    So I booted up Font Book, validated all fonts, neatly uncovering and "disabling" about eight fonts except for about four not disabled because they were in System files, as cautioned. As to display issues, for example, there was some improvement in my NYTimes On-line website, but still the same alert keeps popping up. The Alert pops up also with Thunderbird, my  email client, but has no effect on email itself.

     

    I'm hoping there may be other suggestions. Surely, others may have also run into this. It's early, but there have been no entries under "More Like This" in this thread.

    .

    The consequence of any other remaining "bad Font file(s)" is "livable" since it seems more cosmetic than functional -- so I may just have to live with it. The bad font mostly causes titles of articles/reports to be covered by a line of capital "A" each enclosed in a box.

     

    BTW, I  even ran DiskWarrior 4.4, but without much effect on the font problem.

     

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Raymon

  • by BDAqua,Helpful

    BDAqua BDAqua May 12, 2015 1:15 PM in response to Raymon
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    May 12, 2015 1:15 PM in response to Raymon

    The bad font mostly causes titles of articles/reports to be covered by a line of capital "A" each enclosed in a box.

    As I recall that is a sign of a bad System font, have you installed any MS or Adobe fonts?

  • by Raymon,Helpful

    Raymon Raymon May 12, 2015 1:55 PM in response to BDAqua
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    May 12, 2015 1:55 PM in response to BDAqua

    Sorry.  I don't  know what the above issue is about so cannot click on either Recover or Delete.

     

    BDAqua,

     

    With running Validation of all fonts with Font Book, I did disable a number of font files but NOT those marked by Font Book as being in System files -- as cautioned by Font Book. It's quite easy to go back and disable the five or so such bad fonts being in System files, perhaps one at a time to isolate the guilty files.   It's terrific that you know about faulty font files causing the appearance of lines of capital A each enclosed in a box! 

     

    And no, I've not installed any MS or Adobe fonts or any other fonts for that matter.

     

    Thanks for your continuing diagnoses. You're very kind.

    I feel like we're on the right track!

     

    Raymon

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua May 12, 2015 2:12 PM in response to Raymon
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    May 12, 2015 2:12 PM in response to Raymon

    Disabling fonts there may make the Mac unbootable, any bad ones must be replaced.

     

    Doesn't it say the names of the corrupt ones?

  • by Raymon,

    Raymon Raymon May 13, 2015 10:18 AM in response to BDAqua
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    May 13, 2015 10:18 AM in response to BDAqua

    BDAqua,

     

    Yes, I've just discovered that:

    "Disabling fonts there may make the Mac unbootable, any bad ones must be replaced."

     

    I've also found an older thread "Font Book Issues" by catoox and extensive replies by Carolyn Samit and Kurt Lang, both June 14, 2007 which:

     

    For me at this time, my Font problem Alert will have to wait until I have more time. Disabling fonts did cause more problems than I expected. Fortunately, I've recovered by starting up with a bootable back-up clone from last April 6th. So I'm off and running again. Whew, that was a close call. Doing bootable back-up clones all these years has saved my skin on two occasions now - well worth the back-up chore routine.

     

    Thanks for all your help. This really did help me.

     

    Raymon

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua May 13, 2015 10:58 AM in response to Raymon
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    May 13, 2015 10:58 AM in response to Raymon

    OK, yeah, bootable clones are so much more useful than TM backups!

     

    These are the files in my 10.4.11 System>Library>Fonts folder...

     

    ._HelveLTMM

    ._Helvetica LT MM

    ._Times LT MM

    ._TimesLTMM

    Apple LiGothic Medium.dfont

    AppleGothic.dfont

    AquaKanaBold.otf

    AquaKanaRegular.otf

    Courier.dfont

    Geeza Pro Bold.ttf

    Geeza Pro.ttf

    Geneva.dfont

    Hei.dfont

    HelveLTMM

    Helvetica LT MM

    Helvetica.dfont

    Keyboard.dfont

    LastResort.dfont

    LucidaGrande.dfont

    Monaco.dfont

    Osaka.dfont

    OsakaMono.dfont

    Symbol.dfont

    Times LT MM

    Times.dfont

    TimesLTMM

    ZapfDingbats.dfont

    ヒラギノ丸ゴ Pro W4.otf

    ヒラギノ明朝 Pro W3.otf

    ヒラギノ明朝 Pro W6.otf

    ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W3.otf

    ヒラギノ角ゴ Pro W6.otf

    ヒラギノ角ゴ Std W8.otf

    儷黑 Pro.ttf

    华文细黑.ttf

    华文黑体.ttf

  • by Raymon,

    Raymon Raymon May 13, 2015 5:12 PM in response to BDAqua
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    May 13, 2015 5:12 PM in response to BDAqua

    BDAqua,

     

    Thank you.

     

    Except for your first four font files:

     

    ._HelveLTMM

    ._Helvetica LT MM

    ._Times LT MM

    ._TimesLTMM

     

    we have the same set of remaining 32 font files! Can the missing first four files explain my font problem? And if so, how do I obtain and add them to my Library?

     

    Raymon

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua May 14, 2015 9:56 AM in response to Raymon
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    May 14, 2015 9:56 AM in response to Raymon

    Oh, the dot in front of those 4 files mean they're hidden files, which I have set to always show, so I bet you have them also.

     

    Open Terminal & paste this in...

     

    cd /System/Library/Fonts

     

    Press return & paste this in...

     

    ls -a

     

    Press return.

  • by Raymon,

    Raymon Raymon May 18, 2015 5:48 PM in response to BDAqua
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    May 18, 2015 5:48 PM in response to BDAqua

    I'm back to finding the solution to the Font Alert problem.

    I've opened Terminal but have had no luck with the Terminal commands.

     

    Is there a space between  cd and /System/...

    Is it:

    cd /Systems/ ...   or

    cd/Systems/ ...

     

    Also, in:

    ls -a

    is that first character

    lower case ell?

    upper case eye?

     

    Thanks!

  • by BDAqua,

    BDAqua BDAqua May 18, 2015 6:23 PM in response to Raymon
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    May 18, 2015 6:23 PM in response to Raymon

    Is there a space between  cd and /System/

    Correct.

     

    Lower case L as in list... btw if you can copy from the browser & paste onto Terminal, that should work.

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