Inconsistant Results: Workout/Activity/Exercise

I have an Apple Watch that is giving very inconsistent results. Perhaps someone can explain the differences to me? Yesterday I went for a long bike ride (130 minutes) and set the workout app to Outdoor Biking. I also wore my Polar watch and my Polar heart rate chest strap (which does not connect to the watch) to see if the results were consistent. I also used MapMyRide app on my iPhone 5s to verify speed/mileage. At the end of the ride, MapMyRide told me I had ridden 28.05 miles and the apple watch told me 27.95. Close enough. The Apple Watch and the Polar Watch said I had biked for 130 minutes. Both watches and mapmyride are set with my "statistics" Female, age 51, 5'5, 147lbs.


Now for the inconsistency: The Polar Watch told me I had burned 830 calories with an average heart rate of 124. The Apple Watch told me I burned a TOTAL of 559 ( Active 371 Resting 188) with an avg heart rate of 124. Why the calorie calculation difference? Any biking calorie calculator (adjusted for weight and biking speed) will also show that your burn a minimum 500 calories/hr, although they don't take into consideration heart rate. How can the Apple Watch calculation be so much lower?


Finally, the Activity App said at the end of the day, I only had "Exercise" of 65 minutes, but the Workout shows 130 minutes? why wouldn't the Exercise be at least the same as the Workout, if not higher given other activities (like walking the dog) throughout the day?

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Posted on May 3, 2015 7:52 AM

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May 7, 2015 12:25 AM in response to hockeymom3

I have a Polar chest strap too & use the same apps - MapMyWalk & Heart & Polar Beat. Results are a bit inconsistent. In one hour, 40 heart rate readings were fairly consistent within 1-2 bpm. 2 readings were off by 3-5 bpm. Still pretty good. Once, the reading said I was at 194 bpm while cooling down after a run. Whoops! Then it went back to a matching reading. On another day, it was accurate / matched the chest strap 2/3 of the time and a few times were wildly off. Not sure about that. Calories varied between all the apps I think.


As far as the number of minutes of Exercise goes, even though you biked for 130 minutes, it only counts those minutes in which you are working at a level equivalent with a brisk walk. Is it possible that you sometimes pedaled with greater ease & sometimes put your legs into it more enthusiastically?

May 7, 2015 3:55 AM in response to bevaroo117

This is not entirely true, Winston Churchill. Calories are part of the "Activity app." At the end of the day, when I look on my phone

Yes, but that's on the phone. The point I'm making is that in indoor mode it's wrist movement that counts for exercise (the blue circle) in the activity app, I'm not saying anything about what gets measured and how it's used for the workout app or the workout part of the activity app on the phone.

May 7, 2015 9:19 AM in response to Winston Churchill

Winston Churchill wrote:


Spinning doesn't cause your wrist to move a lot, you can use other, it will give you a count based on a brisk walk.

As a 70 y-o male with a theoretical max heart rate of 150 bpm, hitting 147 bpm and averaging 130 bpm seems a little more than a brisk walk 🙂


That being said, I think some sort or tech note or support document from Apple explaining the various exercise assumptions would be most welcome. I will try Other at my next spin session to see what the difference is.

May 7, 2015 11:15 AM in response to Winston Churchill

I think most people would expect "indoor cycling" to mean a stationary bike and "indoor running/walking" to mean treadmill. I have been trying to parse this all out myself. I had guessed that the difference between the two is that the 'indoor' options don't use GPS. (makes sense). But to say that you have to be moving your wrist is silly and dangerous, and I hope apple knows better!! I think the 'other' option just uses your heart rate, so that has become my default. (my most common exercise is walking pushing the baby stroller, and if I do "outdoor walk", even though it records distance, heart rate, etc, accurately, it doesn't give me much "credit" towards my green exercise ring. I have to guess that wrist movement is part of the issue here (since my wrist is pushing the stroller it's not swinging at my side). If I call it "other", I get full credit on my exercise ring.


Hopefully this is just a first-gen glitch that will be fixed with an update.

May 7, 2015 12:30 PM in response to jim49golf

As a follow-up to Winston's suggestion, my wife set her "workout app" for her entire session of "spinning" to "Other" today. Here are the results:


Digifit:

Exercise time: 1:04:32

BPM Max: 161

BPM Avg: 147

Total Calories: 655


Apple Watch:

Exercise time: 1:04:11

BPM Avg: 147

Active Calories: 359

Resting Calories: 110 (do not understand this measurement since she did not stop spinning for the entire time and averaged 147 BPM and a Max of 161). No resting time!

Total Calories: 469


So, although I am adverse to using the "other" for the spinning exercise, the BPM average did agree with the Digifit app. Still puzzled how the Apple Watch has any resting calories since the BPM's and exercise time are the same. And again, why the huge discrepancy of 655 calories (Digifit) versus the 359 / 469 calories registered by the Apple Watch.

May 7, 2015 12:50 PM in response to jim49golf

My understanding is that the "resting calories" are the calories your body burns at baseline, like even if you're sleeping- and the active calories are the extra you burn on top of that from exercising. that doesn't explain the discrepancy though. My apple watch calorie estimates are lower than my fitbit estimates I've noticed. But, I'd rather it err on the low side. I'd rather be burning MORE than I think I am than vice versa.

May 8, 2015 7:50 AM in response to jim49golf

And again, why the huge discrepancy of 655 calories (Digifit) versus the 359 / 469 calories registered by the Apple Watch.

I believe that's probably because 'Other' assumes a brisk walk. 'Other' is an acceptable alternative to indoor walk for a treadmill for me, but for more energetic exercise, you seem to have to choose between having it calculate from the correct workout and it not counting towards your exercise total or having it credited as exercise in activity but not recorded properly in the “workout”.

May 9, 2015 11:40 AM in response to Winston Churchill

I have similar concerns as to why the calorie count with Apple is so low. I did a 60 minute motion trainer workout this morning with an average heart rate of 148 BPM, I know the machine is not accurate it said I burned almost 700 calories. When I plugged my 148 into a heart rate to calorie converter program it said I burned 660 calories gross and about 620 net. My watch said 267 calories burned. That just can't be right

May 9, 2015 12:33 PM in response to Winston Churchill

Motion trainer is similar to elliptical. It mimics more of a running motion. I did use the elliptical activity. Not sure how doing a calibration would help. My heart rate was accurate, the time was accurate, I entered my age, weight, height into the app. What else does it need to determine calorie expenditure? I assumed it was using heart rate to determine the intensity of the workout.

May 10, 2015 3:52 AM in response to Winston Churchill

[Stolen]

During aerobic exercise, the rate at which calories are expended is a product of two factors:


INTENSITY x BODY WEIGHT


That’s it. (Factors like age, height, and gender are necessary for heart rate monitor estimates, but those factors are only needed for HRMs, see below). So: more intense workloads will burn more calories than less intense workloads and, at any given workload, heavier people will burn more calories than lighter people.


Next: the energy cost for any given exercise workload is relatively fixed. For example the energy cost of walking at 3.0 mph and 5% elevation on a treadmill (w/out holding on) is approximately 5.4 METs (a MET is a measure of aerobic intensity. That 5.4 MET intensity is the same for everyone—regardless of age, gender, or fitness level. So, every given speed, elevation, watt level, etc, has a relatively fixed energy cost. If we can measure the workload, and we have formulae that can accurately calculate the energy cost for a given workload, it is straightforward arithmetic to determine the calories expended.


Machines

Most modern commercial cardiovascular equipment uses computer chips to control the operation of the equipment. The digital control means that exercise workloads can be accurately measured. For simple movements, such as treadmill walking and running, or stationary cycling, there are longstanding, validated equations for estimating energy expenditure.


Since these machines can accurately measure workload intensity, and since they are programmed with accurate equations for estimating calorie expenditure, all they need is body weight to calculate exercise calories. So, for stationary cycling and treadmill walking (w/out holding on), as long as you enter body weight, the machine readings should be accurate—or at least as accurate as any indirect estimate can be. (It’s a little different for running—not only do you have differences between treadmill running and outdoor running, research I have seen suggests that, starting with speeds above 6.5 mph, the actual energy estimate equation itself starts to overestimate calories—so treadmill running calories are likely 10%-25% high).


Elliptical cross trainers are a different story. While the machines can consistently measure a work output, there is no consistent movement design for cross trainers. Each manufacturer’s equipment is different. Therefore, there is no one validated equation that can be applied to all cross trainers. So, in the case of elliptical, it is best to assume that NONE of them are particularly accurate. Based on these factors, treadmill walking and stationary cycle calorie estimates should be pretty accurate, running off by up to 20-25% and elliptical cross trainers – who knows?


Heart Rate Monitors

Heart Rate Monitors estimate calories by a completely different method than machines. It is important to emphasize up front that HRMs do not “measure” calories—they don’t have any special sensors or anything. In fact, the ONLY thing that HRMs measure is heart rate. That’s it—the calorie function is just a very indirect estimate.


How do HRMs estimate calories? They use algorithms based on the relationship between heart rate and oxygen uptake (VO2). It’s increased oxygen uptake that is actually responsible for increased calorie burn. During steady-state cardiovascular exercise, there is a relatively fixed relationship between heart rate and VO2. An increase in workload requires an increase in VO2 which leads to an increase in heart rate. (A decrease in workload has the opposite effect). We know some approximate relationships between HR levels and VO2 level—e.g. 70% of HRmax is equal to 57% of VO2 max, 85% of HRmax is equal to 70% VO2max, etc. Put very simply—if we know a person’s HRmax, HRrest, and VO2max, the individual “scale” for that person can be established. If the VO2max is 40, and we know the heart rate is 85% of HRmax, and we know that 85% HRmax = 70% VO2max, then we can calculate that the exercise workload is 28 (70% x 40), and that, along with body weight, allows us to calculate calories.


HRM manufacturers create algorithms that attempt to capture and refine this relationship, as well as make the algorithm applicable to the widest range of individuals. They validate the algorithms by taking a group of subjects and comparing the VO2/calorie expenditure predicted by the algorithm to actual VO2 measurements taken with a metabolic cart. It is in the generation of these algorithms that factors such as age, gender, and height, for example, are necessary factors to improve accuracy. this method is very much based on RELATIVE intensities rather than fixed workloads. In other words, an exercise heart rate of 150 beats/min means absolutely nothing unless we know the context – the persons HRmax, HRrest and VO2max.


It also must be emphasized that the HRM algorithms are ONLY valid under conditions in which there is the consistent relationship between heart rate and VO2 as described above. If heart rate increases without an increase in VO2, then the calorie numbers are bogus.


As you can see, there is no single answer as to which method is “most accurate”.


For simple activities, such as treadmill walking, walking/running on level ground outdoors, and stationary cycling (on a quality commercial bike), the calorie displays on the machines can be quite accurate because they measure actual workload. For activities such as cross trainers, stairclimbers and more unstructured activities like group exercise classes, walking outdoors on hilly terrain, then HRMs are likely to be more accurate.

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