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Q: My iMac 20.5  purchased Jan 2010 is seriously slow more so with Yosemiti. The processor needs to be upgraded from i3 to i5 any ideas.

My late 2009 iMac is now seriously slow especially since downloading yosemiti. I am told the processer needs to be upgraded from i3 to i5,which cannot be done .Are Apple planning an upgrade in the foreseeable future?

iMac, OS X Yosemite (10.10.3), late 2009

Posted on May 8, 2015 6:05 AM

by Eric Root,Solvedanswer
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I have purchased RAM several times from Other World Computing and have always been very satisfied with the product and service. They have on-line instructions on how to replace the RAM. OWC has also tested RAM above what Apple states is the maximum. I now have 6GB installed on a early 2008 iMac supposedly limited to 4 GB and noticed an improvement.

 

Crucial

 

Other World Computing

 

Activity Monitor - Mavericks  also Yosemite

 

Activity Monitor in Mavericks has significant changes

 

Performance Guide

 

Why is my computer slow

 

Why your Mac runs slower than it should

 

Slow Mac After Mavericks

 

Things you can do to resolve slowdowns  see post by Kappy

 

6 Easy Tips to Speed Up OS X Yosemite on Your Mac

 

Try running this program and then copy and paste the output in a reply. The program was created by Etresoft, a frequent contributor.  Please use copy and paste as screen shots can be hard to read.

 

 

 

 

 

Etrecheck – System Information

Posted on May 8, 2015 10:43 AM

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  • by Barney-15E,Helpful

    Barney-15E Barney-15E May 8, 2015 8:48 AM in response to Tmoth
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    May 8, 2015 8:48 AM in response to Tmoth

    Who told you that you needed to upgrade the processor? I hope you don't put a lot of your computer related decisions in their hands.

     

    How much RAM do you have and how much free space do you have on the startup drive?

     

    Other potential causes of slowness are any software you've installed to optomize, clean, maintain, or protect you. All such products are crapware and cause problems, not solve them.

     

    Open Activity Monitor and look at the Memory Tab. What does the memory pressure graph show (Green, Yellow, Red). How about Swap Used?

  • by Tmoth,

    Tmoth Tmoth May 8, 2015 8:56 AM in response to Barney-15E
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    May 8, 2015 8:56 AM in response to Barney-15E

    1. Memory 4GB  -  2 memory slots used,  2 available

     

    2. Activity monitor Memory Tab Capacity 499.25 GB

                                                      Free space  391.13 GB

                                                     Used 108.12 GB

    The graph shows green,yellow in middle then green again.

    3. Avast Mail Shield installed

     

    I hope this is of help.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 8, 2015 9:01 AM in response to Tmoth
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    May 8, 2015 9:01 AM in response to Tmoth

    Get rid of Avast.

  • by Barney-15E,Helpful

    Barney-15E Barney-15E May 8, 2015 10:35 AM in response to Tmoth
    Level 8 (49,791 points)
    Mac OS X
    May 8, 2015 10:35 AM in response to Tmoth

    As already stated, dump Avast.

    More RAM will always help. Buy it from a reputable source like Crucial, Other World Computing, MemoryTen, etc.

    No matter which source you pick, use their memory finder for your specific Mac model.  Don't try to find RAM based on RAM specs.

    Also make sure they certify it works with an Apple computer and warrants it for life.

     

    Based he'd on your description, I can't find your Mac, here: http://www.everymac.com/#macspecs1

    They have specs for all Macs and have links to memory suppliers in various locations.

    You can find your exact Mac by opening System Information and looking for the model identifier. You can then search for that on the linked site or find it here:

    How to identify iMac models - Apple Support

  • by Tmoth,

    Tmoth Tmoth May 8, 2015 10:36 AM in response to Barney-15E
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    May 8, 2015 10:36 AM in response to Barney-15E

    Many thanks.

  • by Eric Root,Solvedanswer

    Eric Root Eric Root May 8, 2015 10:43 AM in response to Tmoth
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    May 8, 2015 10:43 AM in response to Tmoth

    I have purchased RAM several times from Other World Computing and have always been very satisfied with the product and service. They have on-line instructions on how to replace the RAM. OWC has also tested RAM above what Apple states is the maximum. I now have 6GB installed on a early 2008 iMac supposedly limited to 4 GB and noticed an improvement.

     

    Crucial

     

    Other World Computing

     

    Activity Monitor - Mavericks  also Yosemite

     

    Activity Monitor in Mavericks has significant changes

     

    Performance Guide

     

    Why is my computer slow

     

    Why your Mac runs slower than it should

     

    Slow Mac After Mavericks

     

    Things you can do to resolve slowdowns  see post by Kappy

     

    6 Easy Tips to Speed Up OS X Yosemite on Your Mac

     

    Try running this program and then copy and paste the output in a reply. The program was created by Etresoft, a frequent contributor.  Please use copy and paste as screen shots can be hard to read.

     

     

     

     

     

    Etrecheck – System Information

  • by JimmyCMPIT,

    JimmyCMPIT JimmyCMPIT May 8, 2015 10:46 AM in response to Eric Root
    Level 5 (7,085 points)
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    May 8, 2015 10:46 AM in response to Eric Root

    I've used OWC many times for business and personal mac needs, excellent distributor who are very knowledgable when it comes to Mac systems. Never had any problems with them and I recommend them to others.

  • by cdhw,

    cdhw cdhw May 8, 2015 11:03 AM in response to Tmoth
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    May 8, 2015 11:03 AM in response to Tmoth

    Your current hardware should run very nicely with Yosemite and certainly no slower than it has done with previous versions of OS X. If it feels slow then suspect software and/or preferences lingering on from previous versions. If you run EtreCheck:

     

         http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    and post the results here we can probably help get it working well again.


    Once the software has a clean bill of health you can look again at Activity Monitor and if, during your usual working pattern, it is spending most of its time in the green you don't need to spend money on RAM.


    There are many posts on these forums advising people with 4GB and Yosemite to buy RAM. I can't remember ever seing a post saying 'Yep, the extra RAM fixed it.' but I've seen plenty saying 'I bought extra RAM and it made no difference.'

     

    C.

  • by Tmoth,

    Tmoth Tmoth May 10, 2015 1:22 AM in response to Eric Root
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    May 10, 2015 1:22 AM in response to Eric Root

    The enclosed report seems to be an abrievated copy of the etracheck.  The cut and paste to insert the full report into the square box edged green would not work.The report highlights in red  ' Problem System Launch Agents'  and also " Problem System Launch Daemons ". Thanks for your continued help.

     

    Problem description: Slow computer,especially pages and numbers EtreCheck version: 2.2 (132) Report generated 5/9/15, 11:40 AM Download EtreCheck from http://etresoft.com/etrecheck Click the [Click for support] links for help with non-Apple products. Click the [Click for details] links for more information about that line. Hardware Information: ℹ️ iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2009) (Technical Specifications) iMac - model: iMac10,1 1 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core 4 GB RAM Upgradeable BANK 0/DIMM0 Empty BANK 1/DIMM0 Empty BANK 0/DIMM1 2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok BANK 1/DIMM1 2 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n Video Information: ℹ️ NVIDIA GeForce 9400 - VRAM: 256 MB iMac 1920 x 1080 System Software: ℹ️ OS X 10.10.3 (14D136) - Time since boot: 1:25:16 Disk Information: ℹ️ ST3500418ASQ disk0 : (500.11 GB) EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 499.25 GB (391.32 GB free) Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB OPTIARC DVD RW AD-5680H USB Information: ℹ️ Apple Inc. Built-in iSight Apple Inc. iPad Apple Internal Memory Card Reader Western Digital External HDD 500.11 GB EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB Time Machine Backups (disk1s2) /Volumes/Time Machine Backups : 499.76 GB (124.12 GB free) Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller Configuration files: ℹ️ /etc/launchd.conf - Exists Gatekeeper: ℹ️ Mac App Store and identified developers Kernel Extensions: ℹ️ /Library/Application Support/Avast/components/fileshield/unsigned [loaded] com.avast.AvastFileShield (2.1.0 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support] /Library/Application Support/Avast/components/proxy/unsigned [loaded] com.avast.PacketForwarder (2.0 - SDK 10.10) [Click for support] /System/Library/Extensions [not loaded] com.Huawei.driver.HuaweiDataCardDriver (4.0.8) [Click for support] [not loaded] com.ZTE.driver.ZTEUSBCDCACMControl (1.1.9) [Click for support] [not loaded] com.ZTE.driver.ZTEUSBCDCACMData (1.1.9) [Click for support] [not loaded] com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt (0.0.52) [Click for support] [not loaded] com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverVSP (0.0.45) [Click for support] Problem System Launch Agents: ℹ️ [killed] com.apple.CallHistoryPluginHelper.plist [killed] com.apple.CallHistorySyncHelper.plist [killed] com.apple.cloudphotosd.plist [killed] com.apple.coreservices.appleid.authentication.plist [killed] com.apple.EscrowSecurityAlert.plist [killed] com.apple.icloud.fmfd.plist [killed] com.apple.Maps.pushdaemon.plist [killed] com.apple.recentsd.plist [killed] com.apple.SafariNotificationAgent.plist [killed] com.apple.security.cloudkeychainproxy.plist [killed] com.apple.telephonyutilities.callservicesd.plist 11 processes killed due to memory pressure Problem System Launch Daemons: ℹ️ [killed] com.apple.awdd.plist [killed] com.apple.ctkd.plist [killed] com.apple.icloud.findmydeviced.plist [killed] com.apple.ifdreader.plist [killed] com.apple.nehelper.plist [killed] com.apple.softwareupdated.plist [killed] com.apple.wdhelper.plist [killed] org.cups.cupsd.plist 8 processes killed due to memory pressure Launch Agents: ℹ️ [running] com.avast.update-agent.plist [Click for support] [loaded] com.avast.userinit.plist [Click for support] [running] com.rim.BBLaunchAgent.plist [Click for support] Launch Daemons: ℹ️ [loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist [Click for support] [loaded] com.avast.init.plist [Click for support] [loaded] com.avast.uninstall.plist [Click for support] [loaded] com.avast.update.plist [Click for support] [running] com.rim.BBDaemon.plist [Click for support] User Launch Agents: ℹ️ [not loaded] .dat00f1.8a3 (hidden) [Click for support] /usr/bin/osascript /usr/bin/osascript osascript -e tell application "Folder Actions Dispatcher" to tick [not loaded] .dat0138.662 (hidden) [Click for support] /usr/bin/osascript /usr/bin/osascript osascript -e tell application "Folder Actions Dispatcher" to tick [not loaded] .dat04b9.daa (hidden) [Click for support] /usr/bin/osascript /usr/bin/osascript osascript -e tell application "Folder Actions Dispatcher" to tick [loaded] com.avast.home.userinit.plist [Click for support] [not loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist [Click for support] User Login Items: ℹ️ Garmin Lifetime Map Updater Application Hidden (/Applications/Garmin Lifetime Map Updater.app) iTunesHelper UNKNOWN (missing value) Skype UNKNOWN (missing value) Dropbox Application Hidden (/Applications/Dropbox.app) Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX Application Hidden (/Applications/Canon Utilities/IJ Network Scanner Selector EX/Canon IJ Network Scanner Selector EX.app) TuneupMyMac UNKNOWN (missing value) Internet Plug-ins: ℹ️ Google Earth Web Plug-in: Version: 6.0 [Click for support] Default Browser: Version: 600 - SDK 10.10 Flip4Mac WMV Plugin: Version: 2.3.5.4 [Click for support] OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: Version: 12.3.6 [Click for support] Silverlight: Version: 4.0.50826.0 [Click for support] FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 17.0.0.169 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support] Flash Player: Version: 17.0.0.169 - SDK 10.6 [Click for support] QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3 iPhotoPhotocast: Version: 7.0 GarminGpsControl: Version: 4.0.1.0 Release - SDK 10.6 [Click for support] EPPEX Plugin: Version: 3.0.5.0 [Click for support] Scorch: Version: Unknown - SDK 10.2 [Click for support] User internet Plug-ins: ℹ️ Picasa: Version: 1.0 [Click for support] Safari Extensions: ℹ️ GMail Counter Facebook Cleaner Better Facebook YoutubeWide clea.nr Videos GMail Counter Firebug Lite for Safari AdBlock Translate 3rd Party Preference Panes: ℹ️ Flash Player [Click for support] Flip4Mac WMV [Click for support] Time Machine: ℹ️ Skip System Files: NO Mobile backups: OFF Auto backup: YES Volumes being backed up: Macintosh HD: Disk size: 499.25 GB Disk used: 107.93 GB Destinations: Time Machine Backups [Local] Total size: 499.76 GB Total number of backups: 245 Oldest backup: 2010-02-10 09:12:49 +0000 Last backup: 2015-05-09 09:31:43 +0000 Size of backup disk: Adequate Backup size 499.76 GB > (Disk used 107.93 GB X 3) Top Processes by CPU: ℹ️ 5% WindowServer 4% osascript 4% Folder Actions Dispatcher 4% launchservicesd 3% taskgated Top Processes by Memory: ℹ️ 1.66 GB Folder Actions Dispatcher 470 MB kernel_task 123 MB com.avast.daemon 53 MB mdworker(6) 53 MB Mail Virtual Memory Information: ℹ️ 39 MB Free RAM 3.96 GB Used RAM 50 MB Swap Used Diagnostics Information: ℹ️ May 9, 2015, 10:12:21 AM Self test - passed May 8, 2015, 01:41:31 PM /Users/[redacted]/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/Finder_2015-05-08-134131_[reda cted].crash May 7, 2015, 10:14:33 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/NotificationCenter_2015-05-07-221433_[redacted] .cpu_resource.diag [Click for details]

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E May 10, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Tmoth
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    Mac OS X
    May 10, 2015 6:01 AM in response to Tmoth

    You didn't uninstall Avast.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root May 10, 2015 6:19 AM in response to Tmoth
    Level 9 (70,085 points)
    iTunes
    May 10, 2015 6:19 AM in response to Tmoth

    Avast

     

    Avast Un-install

     

    RIM software and TuneUpMyMac have also caused people problems. Try uninstalling them using the developer's uninstall instructions.

  • by Tmoth,

    Tmoth Tmoth May 14, 2015 8:46 AM in response to Eric Root
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    May 14, 2015 8:46 AM in response to Eric Root

    I followed Eric Roots 6 easy tips. The first day nothing seemed to work better, there were a lot of spinning wheels and frustration. Then the next day every thing semed to be working correctly, and is much improved. Thamks for all your help.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root May 14, 2015 10:29 AM in response to Tmoth
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    May 14, 2015 10:29 AM in response to Tmoth

    You are welcome.