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Jam3zK

Q: Why has Apple dropped POP support for iCloud email? Is this an attempt to force Gmail users away from their Apple iCloud email accounts?

I like to use my Gmail account to access ALL my email accounts, but since Gmail no longer supports IMAP, and Apple now ONLY supports IMAP, you've put me in a quandary.

 

Q: Why has Apple decided to not support the MOST POPULAR email standard in the WORLD: POP?

 

When used with SSL, POP is just as secure as IMAP. This seems like a move solely intended to inconvenience your end users.

 

Technology is supposed to EXPAND my capacity to do things, NOT LIMIT THEM!

 

I would appreciate an answer to my questions.

 

Thank you.

iPhone 4S, iOS 8.3, Platform and OS are irrelivent.

Posted on May 9, 2015 6:55 PM

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  • by ssschmidt,

    ssschmidt ssschmidt May 9, 2015 7:04 PM in response to Jam3zK
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    May 9, 2015 7:04 PM in response to Jam3zK

    apple.com/feedback would be the best option for you.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim May 9, 2015 7:16 PM in response to Jam3zK
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    May 9, 2015 7:16 PM in response to Jam3zK

    POP is a dinosaur. It's archaic. It doesn't play well in today's world of multiple devices that need to be kept in sync. It is not the "most popular email standard in the world".

     

    POP needs to just curl up and die. Technology is moving on. You should too.

  • by Jam3zK,

    Jam3zK Jam3zK May 9, 2015 8:17 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    May 9, 2015 8:17 PM in response to KiltedTim

    1) Calling something names is not a legitimate criticism.

    2) If a program works, it works. And it works until it doesn't. I haven't used an actual email client since 2005, as I found Gmail's web-based email interface to be much more convenient and worked well across the multiple computers and platforms I had and used at the time, and complied with all employers policies about adding or altering software on their computers, which was important because I often didn't know where I was going to end up the next week. (When I started using Gmail, I found myself almost immediately moving away from all email programs to use the Gmail web-app near exclusively, and frankly I've got to say that I was honestly SHOCKED by that. Up until that time EVERY web app I tried, or was forced to use SUCKED. They were slow, unreliable, and liable to crash at any time for no discernible reason. Gmail was not only the first GOOD web app that I ever saw [and continued to be the best for many years] but it was also the FIRST web-based app that was BETTER than most email programs. And the near infinite storage was really the cherry on the top. It allowed me to store my most used software tools on the web as binary attachments, and download them anywhere I had a sufficient connection, letting me access software I didn't anticipate needing. Well before web-storage caught on in other forms. To this day, I leave copies of most of my most important software in my Gmail account [encrypted, of course].)

    3) I still find Gmail's web-based email interface the most convenient and reliable email client especially when compared to programs or apps that require installation on a hardware platform.

    4) IMAP was created 29 years ago, which makes it a "dinosaur" and "archaic" too, so don't take an attitude if you're spout irrelevant nonsense. It makes you look like an ignorat jerk. That's right, IMAP will be 30 years old within the year.

    5) Assuming that you don't speak for Apple (and even if you do) you don't have the right to tell me how to set my stuff up. It's my technology, I should be able to use it the way I (not you) want. So until you can get a law passed that makes you the Technology Tsar, zip it. Your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion.

     

    Apple: Taking away features is supposed to be a Microsoft thing. Congratulations on acting (more and more) like Microsoft.

  • by Jam3zK,

    Jam3zK Jam3zK May 9, 2015 8:59 PM in response to ssschmidt
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    May 9, 2015 8:59 PM in response to ssschmidt

    Thank you.

     

    I started with the Apple ][+, but felt so betrayed by the //e and //c that I haven't owned an Apple product again until last month when I got an iPhone.

  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 May 10, 2015 2:37 AM in response to Jam3zK
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    May 10, 2015 2:37 AM in response to Jam3zK

    Apple haven't 'taken anything away'. The iCloud service, and its predecessor MobileMe, were never POP. The service is IMAP, and that's the situation. No-one on here speaks for Apple but I think it's fair to say that the chances of a POP version being made available are negligible.

     

    If GMail have stopped offering IMAP - I assume you are talking about importing messages rather than the account itself - it's something you need to take up with them. (I though that it was always POP only, but I'm not certain about that).

     

    In the meantime you could set your iCloud mail to forward to your GMail account, which would presumably serve as well (and in fact would happen immediately rather than being checked at intervals).