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Q: Why is Apple blocking the installation of iDVD

I am attempting to install iDVD using the iLife 11 master disk.

 

The option to install iDVD is dimmed.  A notice came up saying that a SuperDrive is required to use iDVD.  Well, I am installing this software on a Mac Mini that has a Blu-ray/DVD burner connected to it.  Any ideas why Apple is preventing me from installing iDVD on this machine?


http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/MR3F8BDSD16/

Posted on May 10, 2015 12:40 AM

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  • by Klaus1,Helpful

    Klaus1 Klaus1 May 10, 2015 3:20 AM in response to Ziatron
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    May 10, 2015 3:20 AM in response to Ziatron

    No mention there of that drive supporting non-bluray disks?

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    Ziatron Ziatron May 10, 2015 9:39 AM in response to Klaus1
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    May 10, 2015 9:39 AM in response to Klaus1

    No mention there of that drive supporting non-bluray disks?

     

    I guess that's true.  But this drive will burn DVDs, (and even CDs as well). 

     

    As I researched this issue on the web I found others with the same problem.  There is a fix! 

     

    iLife: How to Install iDVD on a Macintosh Without a SuperDrive.

     

    Unfortunately, Apple has removed the procedure from their website.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 11, 2015 8:45 AM in response to Ziatron
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    May 11, 2015 8:45 AM in response to Ziatron

    Is the drive recognized by Disk Utility? If it is you may be able to: 1 -  use the demo version of Pacifist to install iDVD and it's support files, i.e. themes; or 2 - use DU to make a disk image of the iLife 11 disk and install from the disk image.

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    Ziatron Ziatron May 15, 2015 9:57 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 15, 2015 9:57 AM in response to Old Toad

    Is the drive recognized by Disk Utility? If it is you may be able to: 1 -  use the demo version of Pacifist to install iDVD and it's support files, i.e. themes; or 2 - use DU to make a disk image of the iLife 11 disk and install from the disk image.

     

    Hi Old Toad,


    Yes, Disk Utility fully recognizes the drive.  In fact, I was surprised to learn that Disk Utility will burn Blu-rays.

     

    I have Pacifist.  Are you saying that Pacifist can "force" the installation, even when the installer doesn't want to do it ?

     

    This is my drive:   http://eshop.macsales.com/item/OWC/MR3F8BDSD16/

  • by Old Toad,Solvedanswer

    Old Toad Old Toad May 15, 2015 1:25 PM in response to Ziatron
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    May 15, 2015 1:25 PM in response to Ziatron
    Are you saying that Pacifist can "force" the installation, even when the installer doesn't want to do it ?

    Yes.    The following is from OWC's Spec section for that drive:

     

    OWC Notes

     

    • Drive is Plug & Play natively supported by Apple iLife, Apple iDVD, etc with Mac OS X 10.4.3 and later.
  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron May 20, 2015 10:17 AM in response to Old Toad
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    May 20, 2015 10:17 AM in response to Old Toad

    Thanks,

     

    I guess I'm just trying to understand why Apple does this.   It appears they are attempting to block the installation of fully functioning software.

  • by Old Toad,Helpful

    Old Toad Old Toad May 20, 2015 10:54 AM in response to Ziatron
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    May 20, 2015 10:54 AM in response to Ziatron

    There are some time dated certificates that are related to some of Apple's installers and on some Apple pulls the online "certificate (?)" which allows the updates to install without question.  Part of version control I suppose.

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    Ziatron Ziatron May 21, 2015 1:31 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 21, 2015 1:31 PM in response to Old Toad
    There are some time dated certificates that are related to some of Apple's installers and on some Apple pulls the online "certificate (?)" which allows the updates to install without question.  Part of version control I suppose.

     

    I don't like it.

     

    I did get iDVD installed successfully using Pacifist.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 22, 2015 1:07 PM in response to Ziatron
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    May 22, 2015 1:07 PM in response to Ziatron

    Just for your information there was another workaround for that about a year ago.  It was to reset the Mac's clock back a year to a date before the certificate expired.  That allowed the installed to work as it should.

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    Ziatron Ziatron May 22, 2015 7:24 PM in response to Old Toad
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    May 22, 2015 7:24 PM in response to Old Toad
    Just for your information there was another workaround for that about a year ago.  It was to reset the Mac's clock back a year to a date before the certificate expired.  That allowed the installed to work as it should.

     

    Once again you are demonstrating your deserved level XI status.


    I think this whole "certificate" thing is an evil plot !   I can certainly understand that as computer systems move forward, eventually, older programs will quit working.  But I can't understand any attempts to intentionally break them.

     

    I'm still using a number of older pieces of software that work perfectly.  Perhaps they don't have a certificate stone around their neck. I occasionally use a 10-year-old version of FileMaker that works just great.

     

    Well, you and I figured out some time back that if you want to use optical media on a Macintosh, you have to be Sherlock Holmes occasionally.

     

    (   Lately I have been editing HD movies with QuickTime 7 Pro, and using Toast 12 to make Blu-rays.   It's so frustrating to go from a terrific piece of software like iDVD to Toast 12.   but, it's "all we got!" for Blu-rays. )

     

    By the way, did you know if you create a image file with toast, ".toast" file,  that Apple's Disk Utility will burn the Blu-ray just fine ?

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    thesurreyfriends thesurreyfriends May 23, 2015 7:36 AM in response to Ziatron
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    May 23, 2015 7:36 AM in response to Ziatron

    Ziatron

     

    Lately I have been editing HD movies with QuickTime 7 Pro

    Is there a particular reason why you are using QuickTime 7 Pro to edit ?

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    Ziatron Ziatron May 23, 2015 11:53 AM in response to thesurreyfriends
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    May 23, 2015 11:53 AM in response to thesurreyfriends
    Is there a particular reason why you are using QuickTime 7 Pro to edit ?

     

    I'm just moving some shows off of my TiVo.   So all I need to do is some trimming at the beginning and at the end.   This file goes directly into Toast 12 with no conversion so I can easily make a high-definition Blu-ray.

     

    I have also done this using iMovie HD 06 and Final Cut Pro. Both of these programs do some conversion and are more complicated than I need.

     

    The disappointment in all of this is that there are no good Blu-ray authoring programs for Macintosh.  Toast 12, is "OK",  but comes nowhere near the power and ease of use of iDVD.

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    thesurreyfriends thesurreyfriends May 23, 2015 1:56 PM in response to Ziatron
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    May 23, 2015 1:56 PM in response to Ziatron

    I suppose the only advantage of using iMovie HD 6 ( and possibly FCP )  would be that any chapter markers set using this would be seen in your Blu-ray disc by setting in Toast Preferences> Audio & Video>Chapter Markers to Automatic.

    Mind you, if  Toast can handle the Tivo file without re-encoding, then that is a great time saver.Probably worth forgoing the Chapter Markers.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 23, 2015 3:27 PM in response to thesurreyfriends
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    May 23, 2015 3:27 PM in response to thesurreyfriends

    The primary advantage with iMovie 6 HD is that it creates the movie file inside the iMovie project package when you save any edits and there's not exporting necessary to get it into iDVD.  Just drag the iMovie project package into iDVD and you've got the movie.  It's also a higher quality that those movies from later versions of iMovie that need to be exported.

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