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Q: Upgraded to "Photos" and lost all editing abilities.

Slidebars in e.g. "exposure" or "light" take no effect. The "magic wand" for fast and easy enhancement does not work either and filters only apply intermittently?  Rotate, scale and crop does what it needs to do. A bug? Really?

MacBook Pro (15-inch Mid 2010), OS X Yosemite (10.10.3), null

Posted on May 15, 2015 11:06 AM

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Q: Upgraded to "Photos" and lost all editing abilities.

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  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 15, 2015 11:09 AM in response to Arghne
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    May 15, 2015 11:09 AM in response to Arghne

    Did you migrate from Aperture or iPhoto?

     

    If you migrated an Aperture library, photos edited in Aperture cannot be edited in Photos, unless you revert the edits to original.

  • by Arghne,

    Arghne Arghne May 15, 2015 11:20 AM in response to léonie
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    May 15, 2015 11:20 AM in response to léonie

    Hello Leonie! I was a fairly happy iPhoto user. Now I am less happy after the "upgrade". I am playing with newly taken pics and I have of course tried a reboot of the application. I will now reboot the machine and maybe "repair permissions" to see. My macbook is experiencing some kernel panics lately. So it might be something entirely different.

  • by léonie,Helpful

    léonie léonie May 16, 2015 1:27 AM in response to Arghne
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    May 16, 2015 1:27 AM in response to Arghne
    My macbook is experiencing some kernel panics lately. So it might be something entirely different.

    If you are having kernel panics the first thing to do is to make two backup copies of your whole mac. Kerala panics could be caused by hardware problems - system drive failing, bad memory, problems with the logic board. All this can corrupt your data. So be prepared for the necessity to reinstall from a backup.

     

    If you still have Apple care take the Mac to the nearest Apple Store and have it checked.

     

    Since this happened directly after the Yosemite update - do you have older software installed, that now may be incompatible?

  • by Arghne,

    Arghne Arghne May 17, 2015 10:19 AM in response to léonie
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    May 17, 2015 10:19 AM in response to léonie

    After rebooting the machine and running a permission repair I have now regained full editing capabilities in the new "Photos". That said, I am almost sure that my kernel panic problem is the root of my troubles and not just with "Photos" (Boy, do I not like that name. Its too generic and that makes it weird to reference).

     

    Leonie: Yes, I do have a lot of old stuff hanging around this HD and I am going to do total reformatting/backup of my macbook as soon as I'm done researching Adobes new Cloud subscription plans. But tell me why I would need two (2?) backups? Isn't that being unnecessary "double" safe and cautious? (And this should probably be (and has been) covered in a different thread.)

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 17, 2015 10:46 AM in response to Arghne
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    May 17, 2015 10:46 AM in response to Arghne
    But tell me why I would need two (2?) backups? Isn't that being unnecessary "double" safe and cautious? (And this should probably be (and has been) covered in a different thread.)

    You should always have two working copies of your system, documents, and data, your Mac and a backup. Usually one backup should have you covered - you have your backup and your mac.  But if you suspect hardware trouble, the backup is your only reliable copy. In such a situation I make a second  backup, usually a bootable clone of the system drive.  And I always make a second backup, when I am about to wipe the drive and make a clean install.

    When I bring one of my Macs to Apple, when it showing kernel panics and I am suspecting a hardware problem, they usually  ask my to bring the Mac with a clean installed system and no third party applications installed. Or ask, if they can wipe the the mac.  at such occasions I make dead sure, that I have two working backups.

     

    The second backup saved me more than once, for example, when a lightning strike during a thunderstorm caused a power surge, that killed both my system drive and the backup drive at the same time - I was just doing my backup at that moment.

  • by PaulCommentary,

    PaulCommentary PaulCommentary May 29, 2015 2:06 PM in response to léonie
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    May 29, 2015 2:06 PM in response to léonie

    Community:

     

    Can you confirm the above comment? Photos edited in Aperture are not editable in Photos?  Can't even be cropped, say?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 29, 2015 2:22 PM in response to PaulCommentary
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    May 29, 2015 2:22 PM in response to PaulCommentary

    See Apple's Support document:  How Photos handles content and metadata from iPhoto and Aperture - Apple Support

     

    (the red color has been added by me)

     

    How Aperture content and metadata migrate to Photos

    Photos and organization:

    • Photos and movies migrate without changes. Photos migrate with the adjustments and filters you applied in Aperture. You can't modify the adjustments in Photos, but you can revert to the original image.
    • Projects and subfolders migrate to a folder labeled “Aperture Projects" and a folder labeled "iPhoto Events" in the Albums view.
    • Albums are preserved in Photos.
    • Most Smart Albums are preserved in Photos. Smart Albums with selection criteria that isn’t supported by Photos usually migrate to Smart Albums with "(modified)" added to the Smart Album name; in cases where none of the Smart Album criteria are supported in Photos, the Smart Album isn't migrated.
    • Photo books migrate to Albums.
    • Slideshows are preserved in Photos. If a slideshow's theme is not available in Photos, it uses Photo's default slideshow theme.

    Keywords and other metadata:

    • Keywords are preserved in Photos.
    • Photos preserves user-defined titles. Images without user-defined titles will show as "untitled" in Photos.
    • Star ratings migrate as similar keywords in Photos, such as “1 Star,” “2 Stars,” and so on.
    • Flagged images migrate with the keyword “Flagged” and appear in the “Flagged” Smart Album in the Albums view.
    • Color labels migrate as keywords, such as “Green” and "Purple.”
    • Captions are preserved in Photos.
    • Most metadata is preserved in Photos. Some IPTC metadata, including Copyright, won't appear in Photos, but is still associated with the image and can be seen in iPhoto, Aperture, and other applications that display IPTC metadata.
    • Custom metadata fields don't migrate to Photos.

     

    So you can edit the Aperture photos, but to modify the previous adjustments, you have to revert the edited photo to the original and start over.

     

    The problem are brushed adjustments and curves.  There are no brushed adjustments in Photos other than the retouch brush.

    If you have a photo in Aperture with brushed in sharpening or skin smoothing or similar, they will migrate as a rendered edited version, because Photos cannot undo these edits individually and cannot recreate them losslessly. So you have to revert to the original, before you can add edits in Photos.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad May 29, 2015 2:15 PM in response to Arghne
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    May 29, 2015 2:15 PM in response to Arghne
    After rebooting the machine and running a permission repair I have now regained full editing capabilities in the new "Photos". That said, I am almost sure that my kernel panic problem is the root of my troubles and not just with "Photos"

    Boot into the Recovery volume (boot with the Command + R keys held down), select Disk Utilty and repair the disk.  If you get any report of errors being found and repaired repeat until there are no errors reported. Also repair disk permissions while there and reboot normally.

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  • by PaulCommentary,

    PaulCommentary PaulCommentary May 29, 2015 2:16 PM in response to léonie
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    May 29, 2015 2:16 PM in response to léonie

    Good. You CAN EDIT Aperture photos in the Photos app, starting from the Aperture edited version, OR you CAN go back to original and start over.  That seems like a good design decision.