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Jun 17, 2015 5:21 PM in response to thomaslbby Jake Eagle,Thank you for your suggestion. I just downloaded BusyCal and set it up. Very nice. And I set it up so when I enter data into BusyCal it automatically migrates to iCal. I'm just going to use BusyCal until this problem is straightened out. I may or may not go back to iCal later, and if I do, all my entries will be there. This seems like a very safe way to avoid problems until Apple works out the problem. Thanks again.
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Jun 18, 2015 8:18 AM in response to Jake Eagleby thomaslb,You're definitely welcome. You won't be sorry. The more you get used to BusyCal the more you will like it. I've been on it over a week now and can see it's potential.
And listen, about Apple, they aren't likely to fix it. It really isn't a priority for them. Don't get the impression I'm not a fan. I am on all-apple stuff. But they are worrying me lately and this sort of thing is part of it. Now, truthfully, Apple has NEVER been in the PIM (Personal Information Management) business and it is has never been a priority for them (wonder what Apple employees use to get to meetings on time and organize their stuff -- I really do). Earliest phones and iPods didn't even have the capability, then only read capability, until eventually read and modify capability came along. Meanwhile, Palm, MicroSoft (WinCE - yikes!) and Psion were doing all of that stuff for over a decade. And the best stuff on the MAC (versus mobile) side for organizing and Calendaring was coming out of MicroSoft (via Outlook). My history is coming from Palm PDA's and I even wrote a program or two for that platform. Those of us running businesses off the Apple platform (particularly given the high quality of its hardware) made a really good choice. But the software solutions - it's time to look beyond Apple and that's fine. They're out there and they are definitely better than Apple's stock calendar.
*As far as the iOS side, there are plenty of much better ToDo lists (and project organizers) than the stock Reminders (I mean come on). But I really haven't found any calendar that is better than the iOS stock Calendar (which does enough of everything you need it to do on a phone or iPad to make it work). That sort of amazes me.
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Jun 18, 2015 2:16 PM in response to thomaslbby ddelcourt,This sounds like product promotion. Nothing against yours, nor any other calendar managers, but I'm going to try this first.
https://support.apple.com/kb/PH13871?locale=en_US
iCloud is a service Apple charges for, and such discussions do not help focus on the main point, they owe us a fix, at least an answer, especially when the problem only arises at arbitrary times (for some, it was 2011, if you search through the forums).
Apple promotes the "it just works" and "it's fantastic" way they do things, we trust them with our businesses and put a lot of money in their pocket, now we deserve better. I'm a mac user. have been since 1986. I'm working on windows too, I like OS X a lot more, but I can tell when Apple is messing things up.
Common Apple.
I'll keep you posted with the result of the reinstall.
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Jun 18, 2015 2:27 PM in response to ddelcourtby mrchntmarine,I'm still on mavericks and the 1st thing apple had me do was reinstall the os and it didn't make a difference - still have problem.
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Jun 18, 2015 2:30 PM in response to ddelcourtby thomaslb,Yeaaahhh....except I don't work for BusyMac. You may have missed that. (I work for myself as a private practice social worker). And iCloud is free, so not sure what you mean by that. They don't owe you anything. It's free. Your point about the false advertising does resonate with me certainly.
If you are willing to go to the extreme of reinstalling your ENTIRE OS (what, periodically? Every now and again?) or being forced into an upgrade rather than looking at other solutions, there isn't much I can say to you. Not offended and wish you the best. Those are EXTREME measures to fix a problem and IF that did fix it, that would be even worse because it would speak to an inherent OS flaw. A big one. Data corruption and creep. Yikes. Yikes!
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Jun 18, 2015 4:38 PM in response to thomaslbby ddelcourt,I did not try to imply you actually worked for them, but it sounded like you did.
About the fact that iCloud is not a free service, it really depends on how much data you have to sync.
As a business holder, I can tell you we can easily top the free 5GB offer. Of course Calendar is not entirely the cause in any case.
Yes, i do imply the solution is of the worse kind and yes, it probably means data corruption and creep! And Yikes! Sure.
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Jun 18, 2015 4:43 PM in response to hueyoby ddelcourt,Some observations:
- Reinstalling Mavericks over the current system did not fix the problem.
- Has anyone tried a clean install?
- Unlinking from iCloud, creating two calendars ("On my mac"), and then creating a new event affected to the second calendar in one shot gives expected result.
- Relinking to iCloud and the problem arises again.
- Creating a new entry from my laptop with Mavericks shows that the event is created on iCloud as "New event" before I start typing. Monitored through the website. And my iphone.
- Creating the event from my iMac under Yosemite does not trigger an new event on iCloud until i hit return. Trying to replicate the faulty procedure does not generate any problem.
- The problem only appeared a few weeks ago on my side, I'd like to understand what changed.
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Jun 18, 2015 5:31 PM in response to ddelcourtby thomaslb,Rrrr. Not sure thinking outside the Apple box should = your conclusions. Anyway, I've been been researching this issue and I've looked at all of the serious hassles just the folks posting here have gone through with this. Hey, I wish you no ill will and actually nothing but success if you try to get the Apple Cal thing working. But if someone tells you the solution to a problem like this is something as dramatic as reinstalling your entire OS (other examples of crazy I'm-not-really-tyaing-to-help-you solutions like reformitting your hard drive, etc.,) flee the room. Shame on Apple really for this.
Anyway, folks, save yourself some time and hassle and get a third party solution. It will be better.
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Jun 19, 2015 3:27 PM in response to hueyoby LSDLLC,FYI after a couple of weeks of musing on this and trying different things, it seems to stick if I change the calendar from the default to another, then back again, and hit return before closing the window.
I'm still on Mavericks.
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Jun 19, 2015 7:03 PM in response to hueyoby ddelcourt,And some update,
I had a spare disk on which i installed the stock Mavericks 10.9.0, initial version.
Not an upgrade from 10.8, not upgraded to 10.9.5.
Nothing more installed, first thing i did after registrations screens was to check this issue in Calendar.
Problem persists.
Upgraded to 10.9.5, of course the problem is still there.
So there's been a change in the pipes, incompatible with Calendar Mavericks.
This problem is tremendously dangerous and potentially damaging for business users.
is Apple the new Microsoft?
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Jun 20, 2015 2:09 AM in response to ddelcourtby Curiously Perplexed,I too have noticed problem in last few days on my iMac (Mavericks) - seems to be one specific calendar (out of the five I use/share) that refuses to let me directly input a new event without wanting to change the text I input a few seconds later to "New Entry" - it also screws around with the times I select too. Other devices are fine. Tim Cook is not doing it for me I am afraid... we continually see screw-up after screw-up regards iOS releases, for example, and the general contempt towards their customers and software bugs reported by them now exceeds the worst experiences I ever had with Microsoft. Funnily enough I moved over to Apple from Microsoft a couple of years or so ago to escape the very attitude I now experience daily with Apple. The more I scrutinise the Apple marketing strategy without the rose tinted specs on the more horrified I become. Of ALL the things Apple are doing wrong and need to correct most urgently - it is the lack of interest (and appropriate response) to the subject matter being discussed in these very forums.
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Jun 20, 2015 4:25 AM in response to Curiously Perplexedby Server rookie,Suddenly happend on my MBP running 10.9.5 as well. First I thought I was messing up but now I know better. On my MacPro running 10.8.5 no issues with this (yet). The problem is that you can easily forget what you've entered a few hours back.
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Jun 20, 2015 6:32 AM in response to Curiously Perplexedby Sailor Ian,A glimmer of light. I have just finished a helpful call with an Apple advisor from European Support (based in the Republic of Ireland). After making inward enquires he was able to confirm that Apple Engineers are aware of the issue and are working on a software patch / update to resolve it. His sense was of the matter coming to the attention of Apple Engineering only fairly recently (within a couple of weeks or so). Unsurprisingly he could give no indication of likely time for resolution - I guess we can hope for its inclusion in the next routine OSX updates.
So, fingers crossed!
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Jun 21, 2015 3:17 PM in response to hueyoby ML1234,I'm having this exact same issue too! It is so frustrating. I have several "new events" on my ical that I don't even know what they are in reference to now. I hope this gets fixed!
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Jun 21, 2015 9:03 PM in response to hueyoby milicasev,(I have 10.9.5)
I reported the issue using the link somebody above provided, but in the meantime entering new events into the default calendar works for me. Haven't tried going back and changing the calendar category but this will do just fine for now. I hope that helps some of you too!