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mac pro late 2013 freezes with spinning wheel

i bought a mac pro (late 2013) 50 days ago, os is yosemite 10.10.3. I often get the spinning wheel of death and the mac freezes, i.e. it doesn't react to mouse click or keyboard. it happens on average 1 time a day. When it happens i have to restart the machine by pressing the computer's power button.

I have already contacted apple support by phone, i have made many reset operations under their control, but nothing changed.


After the restart, when i examine the console log the last message before the reboot is often the following one


windowserver: surface testing disallowed updates for 10 sequential attempts


By searching this message on google i found that the problem might be related with the energy saving settings, i.e. it happens when the mac wakes from sleep. So i changed those settings to prevent the mac going on stop state, and today the problem did not happen, but i'm not sure what wil happen tomorrow ... so i'm looking for information/advice about this kind of problem.

Mac Pro (Late 2013), OS X Yosemite (10.10.3)

Posted on May 16, 2015 12:19 PM

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Nov 24, 2015 7:27 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

as i said in the former message, i cannot be able to systematically reproduce the errors that happen to me with mac os. They happen usually after 4 or more hours from boot time and they don't happen all days. These logs have been produced with mac os, and i have been able to obtain this also with no third-party software. Usually in my configuration i install at least ms office as an additional tool, because a computer that has not ms office is currently not useful to me. Anyway i confirm i could obtain this with yosemite and without any third party sw. I also made tests with el capitan, and this time office was present because i cannot uninstall and install office continuously, i am not payed to do that.

When i last sent the mac to apple service, i pointed out this in a detailed document, i wrote the yosemite logs in the document. I also wrote every detail about the 'peripherals' i was using (i am just using a mouse, a keyboard and a monitor, very ordinary things i mentioned in the former messages in this thread). All this effort was simply losing my time.

Nov 24, 2015 7:42 AM in response to maxcarella

What does it means "power cycle"?


Cycle the power from On to Off to On again, using this procedure:


Choose Shutdown from the Apple Menu. If your Mac does not shut down automatically,

... hold the power button until it does an uncontrolled power-Off.

wait a quarter minute or more.

Press the power button again to Startup up fresh.


To reset the SMC:


Choose Shutdown from the Apple Menu. If your Mac Pro does not shut down automatically,

... hold the power button until it does an uncontrolled power-Off.

Remove the AC power cord.

Press the power button and hold for a quarter minute.(this discharges the power capacitors for a crisp reset)

Restore the AC power cord.

wait a quarter minute or more.

Press the power button again to Startup up fresh.

Nov 24, 2015 7:44 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

at Grant Bennet-Alder


I can confirm it is not an software error. I have this problem on 3 from 12 identical Mac Pro's. All machines are clones so they all run the same software.

These 3 machine's also freeze with a clean OS, confirmed with 10.10 and 10.11

Reproducing the random freeze is done by setting Power options to never sleep and set the Flurry screensaver to start after 1 minute. Let it run and it will freeze from within 20 minutes to approx 2 days (as said it's random)

Nov 24, 2015 8:03 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

What region of the world are you in?

EMEA

I have bought the systems via the Apple Enterprise Store without any extra warranty. In fact the Apple Enterprise Store is only a business pricelist, they give you only consumer help. There is no way to bring multiple machines to the store for repair or to combine a problem such as this one. They look at the machines as separate cases. So I have to go to the store 3 times to bring my machines.

I have only 1 of the 3 Mac Pro still in warranty (bought them in 2 batches) and the first repair try has been done, without result (replaced MLB)

Due the randomness it took me several month's to discover it is an hardware error. I was also thinking about software, but after waiting for 2 OSX 10.10 update's and update's for other business software we use, I finally found a way to reproduce the problem. For 2 of these mac's it was to late to claim warranty 😟

Nov 26, 2015 3:58 AM in response to shing123

Hi All,


Today I found out something new. Running a clean install of El Capitan and I did my screensaver freeze test, which resulted in a GUI freeze after approx. 40 mins .

This time I didn't turn off the Mac Pro (which is a normal routine when a computer will freeze) but I disconnected the Thunderbolt to DVi adapter and plugged it a few seconds later into another hole (from left bottom to left middle) and after a few seconds the screen came up again UNFROZEN !!!!!!

Nov 26, 2015 4:44 AM in response to Slokkie

Slokkie wrote:


Hi All,


Today I found out something new. Running a clean install of El Capitan and I did my screensaver freeze test, which resulted in a GUI freeze after approx. 40 mins .

This time I didn't turn off the Mac Pro (which is a normal routine when a computer will freeze) but I disconnected the Thunderbolt to DVi adapter and plugged it a few seconds later into another hole (from left bottom to left middle) and after a few seconds the screen came up again UNFROZEN !!!!!!


Hi Slokkie,

I confirm that it happens also to me, after disconnecting TB cable, mac unfreeze, but it's very very slow.

I have to restart to have normale speed and usage.


Max

Dec 5, 2015 12:05 PM in response to maxcarella

Running 2013 Mac Pro with a 27" Apple Thunderbolt display here. Seeing the same issue. Disconnecting the Thunderbolt cable and reconnecting it to a different port will allow me to restart the system as stated above. I have been the to 'Genius' bar 3 times now with this issue and have had my Mac completely replaced yet the issue still persists. I have spent several thousand dollars on this system for work and I cannot be constantly restarting/unplugging Thunderbolt cables to continue working. Apple needs to acknowledge there is an actual problem here and stop using the excuse that "we can't reproduce it" just because it takes more than a few minutes to reproduce the problem. If this issue isn't resolve within the next few months I am going to make Apple give me a full refund for the computer and display and use it to buy a reliable product.


I will be submitting this thread to Reddit and several other social media sites in order to get more attention on this issue until Apple makes an attempt to acknowledge the situation.

Dec 5, 2015 5:43 PM in response to ronaldmcdonalds

Its good that u r making this problem known. And I hope more people will do so. Maybe someone will pick this up as a class action. I loves my apple stuff. But this just make working almost impossible. Its been giving me grief for more than a year. And I've spent to much time talking to apple people. I should not be spending so much time as a debugger for this machine. Whats the point of a powerful computer if it just keeps crashing unpredictably.

mac pro late 2013 freezes with spinning wheel

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