G4 Upgrade Praise and Warning

First let me say I was very impressed with the improvement the G4 card made on my Pismo.

Let me also say that when the G4 card was running 1GB RAM, my Pismo was a joy to work on under OSX. Though graphics intensive programs were sluggish compared to newer PowerBooks, it was acceptable considering the price. Based on the following details I am now limited to 512MB RAM which is still amazingly zippy when running OS9.

However, I made the mistake of ordering my G4 upgrade from Wegener Media. When the card arrived it looked old and used and had adhesive labels that were peeling off. That should have been my first clue. The second was that the first processor card I got would not recognize the J2 card slot, so I could only use 512MB RAM total. Despite the fact that the Pismo started up with the BAD slot error (not bad RAM mind you bud a bad slot), Wegener insisted that the card had checked out perfectly before they shipped it. So I sent it back for a replacement. A week passed before I contacted them and was informed they did not have a card to replace it with. So I told them they would have to credit my money back until they shipped the new card. Miraculously they shipped a replacement card the next day. When I got the new card, it looked a whole lot like the first card I got with the loose labels stripped off. It too had the bad J2 slot. When I contacted Wegener, they said I should send my Pismo in for repair as they thought they new what was wrong. I told them I couldn't part with it at the moment. Then after shutting down the laptop for a morning, I started it up and suddenly the J2 slot loaded the RAM and I had a full Gig of RAM for the first time and the Pismo worked great. No sooner than I sent my old G3 card back to get my deposit, I began to have crashes and had to reset the Power Manager in order to get my PowerBook to restart after sleep. Wegener said it was most likely a failing power supply. After checking with a reputable repair tech and parts dealer, I was assured that could not be the case and the most likely problem was a faulty processor card. It took over a month to get my deposit back after they received my G3 card and only after I sent them an e-mail asking for it. Finally the J2 slot failed completely and would no longer load the RAM, conveniently just after the warranty expired. In the meantime I got another Pismo loaner from a company, it was in almost new condition. Installing the card in it produced identical results. When I contacted Wegener, they cautioned me about doing so much testing on the card as the thermal heat compound would thin out and cause the card to overheat and void the warranty, but would not address the fact it did not work in another Pismo in pristine condition and maintained I should send in my PowerBook for repair. When I asked for details to send it in, now that I had a loaner allowing me to do it, they suddenly stopped communicating with me. It has been over two weeks and Wegener has not responded to my half-a-dozen e-mails. For $200, there is little I can do. I am left with a G4 card that works with the limitation of 512MB RAM -- not really sufficient to run OSX, but fine for OS 9.

If you do opt to extend the life of your Pismo and frankly to keep OS 9 functionality and have a back-up computer it is well worth it, I would definitely spend a little extra and get your upgrade from a REPUTABLE G4 upgrade card vendor like DayStar, PowerLogix or NewerTech. At this point I am not likely to invest any more money into my Pismo and will most likely buy a new MacBook since I do not have a G3 card to mitigate the cost of a more reliable G4 card. But do yourself a favor and get the upgrade rather than sell a former $2500-3000 PowerBook on eBay for pennies -- but whatever you do, steer clear of Wegener.

PowerBook G4, 550 MHz, Mac OS X (10.3.9), Upgraded G3/400 Firewire, 1GB RAM

Posted on Oct 24, 2006 9:14 AM

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Oct 24, 2006 9:34 AM in response to David Sibley

David:

Your experience is very regrettable. I am not sure what going on with Wegener and their non-response and apparently poor quality product. You are the second person from whom I have heard of difficulties with Wegener. I am beginning to wonder if my own experience with them was a stroke of good luck, although, even then, it took six weeks and several reminders for them to return my deposit on the core. I am sorry that you are not only out-of-pocket, but your Pismo is no longer operable. I suggest that you don't give up on getting back your money.

Good luck.

cornelius

Oct 24, 2006 11:52 AM in response to David Sibley

Sorry to hear your story. I will take Wegner off my list.

I actually bought myself a 400 MHz CPU "core" on eBay for about $50. As a bonus, it came with the heat-sink attached. I replaced my 500 MHz CPU for a few weeks, just to make sure it worked, and it worked fine (it was difficult to perceive a performance difference between 400 and 500).

If I do decide to get a G4 upgrade, I will not send in my original 500 MHz G3 card. I'll use the 400 MHz G3 card for the "sacrifice." Even if I go with Daystar, I want to be able to get back to the original configuration, if necessary.

Nov 3, 2006 6:53 AM in response to Tony Giordano

I've been happy with the card I got from Fastmac, though they sent me a 550MHz card instead of 500MHz card and charged me extra. At least it works and has been for a while.

What totally helped was using a Shin Etsu thermal pad in place of what was left over from the Apple pad. I removed that, put in the Shin Etsu pad, and it runs very cool except when doing video processing or a lot of disk access as in defragmenting. Then, it gets warm. 🙂

Tom

Nov 3, 2006 12:56 PM in response to cornelius

Just one data point here, but I upgraded my Pismo with Wegener and it's been great. They did forget to mail me the tool that is used in the upgrade process, but when I called them they overnighted me the tools at their expense. It's been running great ever since. If I could upgrade to something a little faster and upgrade the video, I'd probably use the Pismo forever. I think it's the best-engineered and most flexible/expandable laptop ever.

Of course, my experience with Wegener was over a year ago. I don't know if they may have changed since then.

G4 Digital Audio w/1.467 GHz upgrade Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Nov 3, 2006 2:03 PM in response to David Sibley

It is been a long time since I joined you guys. To start hearing this sad stories from this "Masked Industries thief s".
When I ask all of you to Unite against the price for no reason processor only ONE, out of 776 and maybe more join me in my figth.
None of them (thief s) are good if they were they be helping not stealing.

nhylo

Nov 3, 2006 2:16 PM in response to ziggy29

ziggy:

My experience with my upgrade has been good, too. It has worked well for me and I love it. Wegener was responsive to my emails at the time I purchased. Indeed, I contacted them about another matter later, and they were responsive to that, too.

I believe they must be having some kind of problems there. I sent them an email after this thread came out telling them that their reputation was on the line and asked if there was some explanation for what was reported. To date I have heard nothing.

In view of their unresponsiveness, my early good experience with them notwithstanding, I hesitate to recommend their product to anyone, as I cannot, in good faith, vouch for their service and responsiveness, in view of recent experience.

I appreciate your sharing your experience, as it confirms my own early experience. I was beginning to think my experience might have been a flash in the pan.

In terms of your feelings about the Pismo, you echo the feelings of many of us Pismo users.

cornelius

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